antisieze on brakes

[coppermouse]

My buddy says he always uses antisieve to lube the sliding pins on break calipers, I was always told lithium grease. What are your opinions?

Another unrelated question, I was reading about penetrating oils and there was a study that claimed 50/50 ATF and acetone on rusted fasteners reduced the torque needed to break the fastener free by 4 times less compared to kroil etc..
Anyone ever heard of this concoction:?

 

[rickzack]

I utilize anti-seize on the all bolt threads and nuts on the caliper and caliper brackets and silicone grease made for brakes on all sliding parts. You need a high temp lubrication due to the high heat generated especially if you track your car.

 

[Red Green]

I use the copper high temp antiseeze on any brake components that need it.

 

[Dale B]

The Acetone /ATF mix is pretty popular among tractor restorers. I tryed it on a C113 tractor engine , and it hasn't helped after a month ...Looks like teardown time. At least it has wet sleeves , it'll come apart easy...

 

[sanddrag]

I believe when I did my brakes I just used wheel bearing grease on the pins, since I was doing the bearings at the same time.

 

[Gary S]

I've never used any lubricant on the pins, and so far haven't had any problems with siezing. When I take them apart, there is no lubricant apparent from the factory, so I don't use any.

 

[porphyre]

Gary - Many times it's not seizing, it's drag. You'll get either the inner or outer pad wearing more than the opposite. Or, if only a single pin drags, the pad will wear at an angle. Clean and lube your pins.

 

[Falcon67]

The single piston caliper sliders on the race cars get a thin swipe of high temp bearing grease before installation. That's about it.

 

[tcianci]

There are various set ups of brake caliper slides and some so indeed use dry pins. I am commenting because of post#7 where the poster says clean and lubricate the pins. I have found that you need to be real careful when cleaning them. I thought taking them to a wire wheel and getting them all nice and shiny would help but it actually goes after the anti corrosion plating on the pin. Best to clean them with brake cleaner.
FWIW...the pins on my Yukon are greased and go into a rubber boot, every time I have had to service the brakes, I take them out and put them in a clean paper towel, then they go right back in...still clean and still lubed.

 

[unibrow]

When i became of age i was told "if you love it lube it"

 

[NUTTSGT]

I use anti-sieze on mine.

 

[njfl]

My friend who works at Ford got me a container of Motorcraft brake lube a few years ago. It was just antiseize.

 

[mhm993]

Copper anti seize on the slide pins.

 

[Busted_Knuckles]

Here's what Ive been using, "ceramic extreme brake parts lubricant", as you can see by the bottle, you can pick it up at your local Napa, as well probably anywhere selling Permatex.

 

[brwbier]

I utilize anti-seize on the all bolt threads and nuts on the caliper and caliper brackets and silicone grease made for brakes on all sliding parts. You need a high temp lubrication due to the high heat generated especially if you track your car.

Even the bolts that require thread lock? Please don't drive behind me.

 

[rickzack]

Even the bolts that require thread lock? Please don't drive behind me.

I won't be behind you, I will be in front of you waving good by. Use a torque wrench and you won't have to worry about using thread lock

 

[blarf]

I won't be behind you, I will be in front of you waving good by. Use a torque wrench and you won't have to worry about using thread lock

Ah, but anti-seize or even loctite both have one big advantage: rust/corrosion prevention. If you're in the rust belt, a dab of loctite (the lowest strength stuff) can help make things a bit easier to take apart.

 

[ProGun3400]

Another unrelated question, I was reading about penetrating oils and there was a study that claimed 50/50 ATF and acetone on rusted fasteners reduced the torque needed to break the fastener free by 4 times less compared to kroil etc. Anyone ever heard of this concoction:?

I use copper anti seize on the caliper pins. I've read about the ATF/Acetone mixture also but I'd have to see it with my own eyes to be convinced it works better than Kroil.

 

[ironroad 9c1]

Anti seize for me too, everytime I've used the brake lube, there is never any left on the pins when I remove em later. Lock tite is just so the Manufacturer can cover their ***.

 

[crankshaftdan II]

On the same note, took truck back into dealer under warantee, had brake squeal! Upon inspection, front rotors and inner pads(metallic) were all cooked! Rear pads were starting to do the same thing. Mfgr. replaced fronts under warantee, charged me for cleaning and lubrication on rears. They used the "Copper Anti-seeze" all the way around. Service adviser said the vehicle should be brought in every 6 months for cleaning and lubrication @$50.00 per wheel. I noticed that there was a lot of gooey black **** on my wheels and I questioned the shop on the brake pad composition, they said mfgr says only metallic pads should be used! I called 4 parts stores including NAPA and they all indicated that the OEM replacement pads should be "Ceramic". Whats the deal?? Sounds like the mfgr. does not want to spend the extra $$$ to put the ceramics on and keep the cheeep rotors (Made in China). Any brake techs like to chime in here with info? I made this into my own personal rant on anti-seeze thread!!!

 

[mikeceli]

The mechanics in my shop used aluminium based, Permatex, anti-sieze on caliper hardware, for years.

 

[Sokoloff]

I use loctite on the caliper bolts (and caliper bracket bolts for cars with both) for the anti-corrosion aspect. On cars that haven't had that done, just taking the calipers off can be a real PITA. Anti-seize (copper or silver) on the sliding parts.

 

[tatra]

copper antiseize here also, on sliding pins, hold down bolts and slide ways.......and never an issue .........also put a wee dab on wheel studs , wheel hub holes and have heard arguements for and against..........never been a prob in that area either .............

 

[Farmallgray]

Anti sieze is ok for bolt threads, but needs to be kept away from the rubber parts. It is petroleum based and can deteriorate the rubber slide boots and other rubber components. Synthetic brake grease is made to be compatible with the rubber parts. I have always had good luck using it.

 

[monte433]

The Acetone /ATF mix is pretty popular among tractor restorers. I tryed it on a C113 tractor engine , and it hasn't helped after a month ...Looks like teardown time. At least it has wet sleeves , it'll come apart easy...

If you want to unstick that motor pull the oil pan and put a bottle jack on one of the horizontal crank throws, jack the tractor up a couple of inches and walk away, when it hits the floor it will be unstuck.

My uncle has used this technique for years and swears by it

 

[galwaytt]

If you want to unstick that motor pull the oil pan and put a bottle jack on one of the horizontal crank throws, jack the tractor up a couple of inches and walk away, when it hits the floor it will be unstuck.

My uncle has used this technique for years and swears by it

That's just brilliant !!