Anvil On New 1/2" Impact Compared To Milwaukee

[sweet victory]

Anvil On New Snap On 1/2" Impact Compared To Milwaukee

Was on the Snap On truck this morning and was poking my dealer with a stick by comparing their new 1/2" impact to the Milwaukee 1/2" impact that I already have. He grinned and pulled out this photo. I tried out the gun, and you can feel just how hard that hammer hits the anvil on it's initial start up. The new SO 1/2" might be a Milwaukee killer. (Definitely not on the price tag though)

Edit:

This is the newest Milwaukee compared to the newest Snap On for those wondering.

 

[jumbojak]

Why are the hammers hitting the anvil when the gun is free wheeling?

 

[sweet victory]

Why are the hammers hitting the anvil when the gun is free wheeling?

It's the initial impact when it starts spinning. The hammer is going to hit the anvil. Free wheeling was a poor choice of words; was trying to explain when I only had a socket on there just pulling the trigger.

 

[Tallpilot]

Isn't it amazing how well healthy competition advances product cycles? Now that the hammer has more mass you'll just have to go back to ribbing him about the HF length warranty. 2-3 times the price for 1/5 the warranty? I'd need it to perform around 50% better for that calculus to start making sense.

Thanks for sharing the pictures though. That's very cool.

 

[RedneckWelder]

They have to work to actually compete, and the Snap On impacts that have been purchased by some of our mechanics don’t. Brand new out of the box with issues coupled with not getting fixed under warranty really helped customer satisfaction.

 

[steveo3002]

arent the milwaukee's good enough now ? mine will snap bolts so the only thing i could want is small /lighter /cheaper

 

[Dakkyz]

arent the milwaukee's good enough now ? mine will snap bolts so the only thing i could want is small /lighter /cheaper

I personally think milwaukee has always been good, my older 2015 model high torque has been great since day one, it manages to snap 12mm threaded brake caliper bolts a lot on reverse time, a little overkill, I think the sweet spot is 300nm like the milwaukee M12 stubby.

The Snap-On has nice machine part's, but arent the motors still brushed?
The battery's aren't as advanced as milwaukee yet, and the price is way too high.

 

[Skin]

The Snap-On has nice machine part's, but arent the motors still brushed?
The battery's aren't as advanced as milwaukee yet, and the price is way too high.

It's brushless and they did increase the warranty to 2 years. I don't really get the battery comment since all the tool companies use roughly the same cells. Milwaukee batteries aren't anything special. Agreed on price and then there is the rest of the line which is mediocre so buying into it at $800 or whatever this costs is still a big pill to swallow..

 

[Dakkyz]

It's brushless and they did increase the warranty to 2 years. I don't really get the battery comment since all the tool companies use roughly the same cells. Milwaukee batteries aren't anything special. Agreed on price and then there is the rest of the line which is mediocre so buying into it at $800 or whatever this costs is still a big pill to swallow..

I didn't know they went brushless but with the batteries what I mean is Milwaukee offer high output 12ah batteries as well as many other options, while snap on only offers 4ah which do drain pretty fast, one 4.0 Ah Monster Lithium costs more than a 12ah Milwaukee, in the UK.

 

[KBATN]

where can I find information on this new over priced snap on tool?

As i recall the anvil assembly was much "beefier" on the ct8850 vs anything else, but it was still weaker to IR, Milwaukee, matco, Dewalt and Mac (Red Dewalt). So really the size of the thing doesn't meat sh*t to me. Yeah It will hold up to the abuse, but for 3 times the price I don't see the value. And I'm a Snap On fan too.

 

[Mr_B]

snapon don't have value in power tools or air plus the warranty poor on such items and service/repair ridiculous further cost if you unlucky .
You got better or equal for 3rd the cost and 5 times the warranty plus cheaper spares and repair .
When snapon whacks that hard hitting anvil in a nano sized tool and gives 5yrs no quibble warranty and more realistic prices on spares I might consider it good professional tool option, currently besides one or two gems in electrical and air tools they good way blow good dollar on below par electrical and air equipment that will sting you for even more cash when need spares keep it in service .
Reality is no one company can be good at everything and with air electric tools and diag tools development big changes only going come from niche companies specialising or having patent advantages .

 

[Skin]

where can I find information on this new over priced snap on tool?

Its a limited regional release at the moment. CT9075. 8850 had a normal looking anvil.

I didn't know they went brushless but with the batteries what I mean is Milwaukee offer high output 12ah batteries as well as many other options, while snap on only offers 4ah which do drain pretty fast, one 4.0 Ah Monster Lithium costs more than a 12ah Milwaukee, in the UK.

It comes with new batteries too that are equal to the XC5.0. I don't see a point of a 12Ah competitor from Snap-on. That's a battery that's primarily aimed towards things like construction saws and yard tools not impacts or reciprocating saws.

You got better or equal for 3rd the cost and 5 times the warranty

Granted i'd like to see 3 years on the tool instead but what company has a 10 year warranty?

 

[DerekV]

I don't really get the battery comment since all the tool companies use roughly the same cells. Milwaukee batteries aren't anything special.

That's just a small piece of the pie though - power management makes or breaks a tool's performance. Milwaukee's IP in this space is pretty much untouchable. They know precisely how to push something to the limit over and over and over again, maximizing a tool's potential. They didn't make their anvil as big as the SO because they probably didn't have to.

 

[2manytools]

That's just a small piece of the pie though - power management makes or breaks a tool's performance. Milwaukee's IP in this space is pretty much untouchable. They know precisely how to push something to the limit over and over and over again, maximizing a tool's potential. They didn't make their anvil as big as the SO because they probably didn't have to.

similarly...
Snap-On could claim theirs is better because it's bigger, but if they both do the same job without damage (to the tool) I would say Milwaukee's is more efficient. Who really wants to hold the extra weight?

It also seems that the people they are targeting are using their 1/2" guns to the max, which if is the case, doesn't it may make more sense to step up to a 3/4" or 1"?

 

[Skin]

That's just a small piece of the pie though - power management makes or breaks a tool's performance. Milwaukee's IP in this space is pretty much untouchable. They know precisely how to push something to the limit over and over and over again, maximizing a tool's potential.

Tell yourself whatever you like but you're just trading one koolaid for another. SBD, Bosch, SO, all are multi-billion dollar companies. You think they cant figure out how to make a battery just as good? If "yes" pops into your head you're a victim of their "Red Lithium!" marketing, nothing more.

similarly...
Snap-On could claim theirs is better because it's bigger, but if they both do the same job without damage (to the tool) I would say Milwaukee's is more efficient. Who really wants to hold the extra weight?

When it comes to impacts, its all about mass, so no Milwaukee isnt using magic pixies and achieving the same specs. The new SO is rated to 900 Foot pounds working torque where the Milwaukee is 700 foot pounds. This is a considerable jump and I bet its a beast. I've regularly trash talked SO 18V cordless on here so its not like im some cheerleader but at the same time its silly to play fanboy to Milwaukee and think they didn't just take a back seat in this segment along with everyone else. For what it is, this SO impact looks fantastic (if it isnt an unreliable POS like prior units).

I will say one thing I don't like right out of the gate is the case halves. The internal components seem to be supplying most of the rigidity in the handle unless SO is using some incredibly high end plastic. Milwaukee does a much better job with support there.

 

[Rabid Badger]

I didn't know they went brushless but with the batteries what I mean is Milwaukee offer high output 12ah batteries as well as many other options, while snap on only offers 4ah which do drain pretty fast, one 4.0 Ah Monster Lithium costs more than a 12ah Milwaukee, in the UK.

I'm not saying that the Snap-on batteries aren't overpriced, but is anyone using the 12Ah batteries non-stationary tools?

 

[Yarpo]

When it comes to impacts, its all about mass, so no Milwaukee isnt using magic pixies and achieving the same specs. The new SO is rated to 900 Foot pounds working torque where the Milwaukee is 700 foot pounds. This is a considerable jump and I bet its a beast. I've regularly trash talked SO 18V cordless on here so its not like im some cheerleader but at the same time its silly to play fanboy to Milwaukee and think they didn't just take a back seat in this segment along with everyone else. For what it is, this SO impact looks fantastic (if it isnt an unreliable POS like prior units).

Does it look fantastic? It looks ******* massive in comparison to Milwaukee's. I'm guessing it'll also be unreliable and die right outside of the warranty window too, like most their cordless tools

I'm not saying that the Snap-on batteries aren't overpriced, but is anyone using the 12Ah batteries non-stationary tools?

Only if they want their Milwaukee impact to be as large and heavy as Snap Ons

 

[Dakkyz]

I'm not saying that the Snap-on batteries aren't overpriced, but is anyone using the 12Ah batteries non-stationary tools?

I only have the one 12ah battery, but when we do tyre changes on trailer's/trucks it comes in handy, other than that I use mostly 4/5ah.

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