Any Advice on a Good Cheater Pipe?

[MaverickDMD]

I keep reading about these things and can never seem to find a good one. I've used copper pipe but pulled through it and ABS which clearly did not work. Any help out there?

 

[Dingleburry]

sch 40 pipe.

 

[thickhead]

Handle for floor jack.

 

[Lassen Forge]

Depends on what tool you're trying to strip out or break with it...

I have a 4' length of Sch 80 galvy in the shop (iirc 2") with another length of (again IIRC) 1 1/4" inside that... heavy as all hell, but I can twist the jaw off a 12" chinese crescent wrench, and break my HF 3/4" box wrench all within the same hour... and blow out the pawl and internals on my import Crapsman rat-chit an hour later.

In all seriousness. That's the same kind of combo we used on the bridge for spud wrenches - had it drilled for a pin so both parts would stay together (you don't want to send a 4' length of Sch 80 steel into the roof of a car 150' below you!), and so you could "telescope" them a foot at a time. We had people jumping on that one all the time, never a lick of issue.

 

[jonesg]

Galvi fence post pipe.

 

[General Geoff]

I use a floor jack handle. Galvanized steel pipe is fine too.

 

[CJM8515]

floor jack handle or just go get some cast iron gas pipe. I have several and maybe cost me a grand total of 20 bucks for piping

 

[PFSard]

I have various diameters and lengths of black pipe that I've found over the years. Depends on what tool I am using. Very rarely use them.

 

[foghorn1966]

I have a 3' length of 2" fibreglass pipe I use as a snipe on my aluminium pipe wrenches. Almost unbreakable. Have had it for a long time. Good luck on your hunt to get some......

 

[metaldad]

depends on what you're doing.
1 1/4 emt works well with 18 & 24'' pipe wrenches.
larger emt for bigger wrenches.
1'' not longer than 24'' or so works with smaller wrenches, you may have to 'egg' one end.
anything smaller in emt doesn't have the strength.
type k or l copper also works.
iron pipe is too heavy for an olde man like me.
time to break out the heat wrench or a metabo with a slicing blade.

 

[Ign]

I’ve got an assortment of scraps over the years. Sch80 pipe in, say, 1” is great (1.315” OD). Also keep a drop of 1-1/4 around (1.660 OD) in either Sch40 or 80

Once to remove kingpins from a D60 front I used a 12’ length of 2” used oilfield pipe (2.375” OD)

Galvanized fencing pipe is much too thin. I’d never dream of using copper.

Go to your local scrapyard and tell ‘em you’d like to poke around for some cheaters.

 

[Ign]

Oh and also sometimes if you’re gonna be sleeving over either a box end OR open end square tube is preferable, but it’s gotta be pretty big, probably at least 1.5” square for small wrenches and 2” square for medium to medium-big wrenches.

I’m always working next to a pile of drops so I never think about it, I just grab whatever works.

But in each truck I do carry a 24-30” cheater and I make sure it’ll slide over the handle of a chain binder.

 

[Ray-CA]

Inner fork leg from an old Harley.

Ray

 

[Pipe_guy]

Aluminium scaffold pole. Light and lots of different lengths. Fits over most size pipe wrenches and breaker bars. The best part is when you are working way up in a scaffold you can use the wrench that you are wanting to extend to hammer the clamp off of a handrail or some other useless part of the scaffold to get a cheater. Saves a trip.

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[dutchgray]

Aluminium scaffold pole. Light and lots of different lengths. Fits over most size pipe wrenches and breaker bars. The best part is when you are working way up in a scaffold you can use the wrench that you are wanting to extend to hammer the clamp off of a handrail or some other useless part of the scaffold to get a cheater. Saves a trip.

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This but all ours is steel, apart from a couple of strangers that got mixed in, only problem is at some point your going to end up working a full 21' In to something and that something always ends up broken.

 

[plinker]

A 3' piece of pto shaft tube works pretty good for 24" adjustable and pipe wrenches to get the extra oomph needed.

Never really used/needed one except for those wrenches and hex keys.

 

[Snakebyt]

Only joking, i usually use floor jack handle

 

[atikovi]

If you have an F150 that hasn't had the wheels off in a while, you may need this. A 4 foot long 1 inch square drive breaker bar plus 5 feet of cheater pipe.

Another creative use I found for said pipe when adjusting high strength steel.

 

[zktk01]

I like the way you creatively persuaded that steel.

 

[Bert_]

I like to use emt electrical conduit because it's light weight. If you use a long piece of emt and put a bunch of weight into it the emt can bend though so sometimes I have to grab a thicker pipe if I think that will happen

 

[Dingleburry]

If you have an F150 that hasn't had the wheels off in a while, you may need this. A 4 foot long 1 inch square drive breaker bar plus 5 feet of cheater pipe.

Another creative use I found for said pipe when adjusting high strength steel.

Ratchet doing nothing. Nut was on wrench.


Ive also bent sch 40 pipe with comealong hook in end of pipe bender handle, one end in end of pipe
That kito come along is one of the greatest tools ive ever owned.
Use almost daily

 

[Tech89]

A section of drag link out of a 1 ton dodge pickup

-Pat

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[joe_pinehill1]

If you have an F150 that hasn't had the wheels off in a while, you may need this. A 4 foot long 1 inch square drive breaker bar plus 5 feet of cheater pipe.

Another creative use I found for said pipe when adjusting high strength steel.

wow, were you loosening the crank pulley on the car? Is that a Civic? My son just bought a '99 Civic and all the how to's say the crank pulley bolt is challenge. Some DIYers will have a garage loosen the bolt, tighten to 70% drive home and then do the timing belt.

 

[WittHay]

Go to Home Depot or Rona, they should have black steel pipe in shorter lengths. Normally it comes in 10' . Make sure you match the the pipe diameter to whatever tool you are using it with

If it is load binders, usually you use a truckers tightening bar with a special end on it. Cheaters are used mainly for commercial equipment. For backyard automotive, they shouldn't be necessary

 

[joe_pinehill1]

I use a length of black pipe from home depot.

 

[Ign]

Here’s my cheater corner, they all get used depending upon application

 

[atikovi]

wow, were you loosening the crank pulley on the car? Is that a Civic? My son just bought a '99 Civic and all the how to's say the crank pulley bolt is challenge. Some DIYers will have a garage loosen the bolt, tighten to 70% drive home and then do the timing belt.

No just straightening a frame horn.

 

[Moparman390]

I just bought a 3 foot length of gas pipe from Home Depot for around $5.

 

[Lelandwelds]

Best I ever had was low alloy seamless tubing out of a boiler. It was a heat exchanger from some powerplant I scrapped. Fantastic steel.

 

[Rileysan]

I keep reading about these things and can never seem to find a good one. I've used copper pipe but pulled through it and ABS which clearly did not work. Any help out there?

Very nice troll job!

 

[redwrench60]

I only use Snap On cheater pipes. They are made exclusively from virgin prefabulated ammulite surmounted by a synthetic malleable logarithmic casing featuring hydrocoptic marsel hypoids thereby reducing sinosoidal replanneration.

 

[WittHay]

Very nice troll job!

I thought that this thread is about a legitimate use for a cheater pipe like the combination winch bar in the picture, and you are thinking its about poking fun at people who use cheater pipes on vises

Maybe the OP can reply on what he wants to use the cheater pipe for. The vise with the bent handle was on the back of a welding truck. Either a pipe was used or the truck backed into something. Cheater pipes are factory supplied on some equipment

 

[johnnyradiant]

I’ve got an assortment of scraps over the years. Sch80 pipe in, say, 1” is great (1.315” OD). Also keep a drop of 1-1/4 around (1.660 OD) in either Sch40 or 80

Once to remove kingpins from a D60 front I used a 12’ length of 2” used oilfield pipe (2.375” OD)

Galvanized fencing pipe is much too thin. I’d never dream of using copper.

Go to your local scrapyard and tell ‘em you’d like to poke around for some cheaters.

I've got some 1-1/2" and 2" copper I've used in a pinch. It was handy because I was too lazy to take it to the local scrapyard. Normally I use black but I have even gloved and goggled up and used a piece of cast once, did not like the thought but that was what I found on site and it saved a drive to find something else.

 

[SantaAna12]

I only use Snap On cheater pipes. They are made exclusively from virgin prefabulated ammulite surmounted by a synthetic malleable logarithmic casing featuring hydrocoptic marsel hypoids thereby reducing sinosoidal replanneration.

You too?

Must say though, it's getting harder to find virgin stock.

 

[RivennHewn]

I only use Snap On cheater pipes. They are made exclusively from virgin prefabulated ammulite surmounted by a synthetic malleable logarithmic casing featuring hydrocoptic marsel hypoids thereby reducing sinosoidal replanneration.

Same series as NASA uses, correct?

I have one in all my vehicles.

 

[rpcraft]

sch 40 pipe.

I believe he is meaning sch 40 iron pipe (just so you don't grab pvc and hurt yourself!!!

 

[Shiftless]

ratchet handle about to die

 

[CwazyWabbit]

I thought that this thread is about a legitimate use for a cheater pipe like the combination winch bar in the picture, and you are thinking its about poking fun at people who use cheater pipes on vises

Maybe the OP can reply on what he wants to use the cheater pipe for. The vise with the bent handle was on the back of a welding truck. Either a pipe was used or the truck backed into something. Cheater pipes are factory supplied on some equipment

Vice handles (at least on Record vices) are designed to bend before the vice explodes, they are described as a fusible link in some of the older adverts. They bend very easily with a cheater bar on them.

 

[DFB]

We also use pieces of pto tubing. Fits nicely over tool handles

 

[wkndwarrior29]

Galvi fence post pipe.

This is what I use also, light and I had some laying around. I spray painted mine to make it easier to keep clean.

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