Any gas pump affectionatoes?

[TT_Vert]

My wife bought me an older gas pump for my birthday for my new house/garage and I would love to try to get info on it. I plan to disassemble it and make all electrics work, possibly install an electric pump connected to a switch or a raspberry pi/arduino to simulate pumping gas and also have the dials move. I'd also love anyone who could point me towards an exploded diagram or similar to help me understand what all i'm missing. Thus far I've taken apart the electrical side of it and it's in rough shape. There seems to be a switch controlled by a missing rod that would illuminate the top globe. I assume this was perhaps tied to the handle being lifted but I'm only guessing at this point. I have 1 hour experience in pumps as of right now so i"m as green as they come.

I'll include few pics of what I've got and perhaps you guys can shed some light on it for me. it says sky chief but those signs are probably interchangeable and they look new so they must be repros. Upon initial research it appears this may be the computer in this thing.

Thanks much,

Dave

 

[skippydoo]

I don't know the pump manufacture , but the register/computer is made by Veederroot which is in every pump Ive ever seen. I fix and install modern day pumps, but I have only seen a few antiques and never paid much attention to them. Try asking John at jdtpumps.com

 

[firebirdparts]

I love them, but I do not use any forum or magazine for them. There are some vendors of restoration parts. I subscribed to a couple of automobilia magazines for a year or two and really just got nothing out of them. So it is a very big hobby, but it seems at least not to have a good magazine associated. There have been several books written about them.

 

[mitchtr25068]

Go to oldgas.com. It’s a site devoted to petroliana, as it is known, with many gas pump experts, sellers and parts suppliers, as well as hundreds of examples of restorations of pumps

 

[SULLY]

Go to oldgas.com. It’s a site devoted to petroliana, as it is known, with many gas pump experts, sellers and parts suppliers, as well as hundreds of examples of restorations of pumps

What he said. Great site.

Sully

 

[splam]

I have many old gas pumps, some restored on display, some disassembled partially restored and many waiting restoration. If you could post more pictures of the pump itself I should be able to tell you the make of the pump. The computer you show was used in many different manufactures pump. It appears you are missing the actual pump and motor for your pump. It is fairly common for people to remove these because they are heavy and most people that restore them do not intend to ever pump fuel with the again they simple want to display them.

 

[TT_Vert]

Thanks, I'm going to get over to that site at some point. Even w/o a pump/motor this thing weights a ton. I wish it had them to be honest though to make it complete. I don't plan to pump anything though a factory pump, may use a small fuel pump to pump a gas colored fluid though it w/ a small return just to simulate gas flowing. If I ever get to that point. I can certainly get more pics up, right now I have it in a state of disassembly as I want to rewire the lights at a minimum.

Dave

 

[firebirdparts]

You could add a little gearmotor to turn the calculator.

 

[TT_Vert]

You could add a little gearmotor to turn the calculator.

Yeah that is in the plans as well. The computer seems to be locked solid so I'll have to disassemble and attempt to rebuild it. That is why i was asking if anyone had any schematics or exploded diags.

 

[TT_Vert]

Few more pics I took today.

 

[was2]

You may be looking for any name info on the porcelain faceplate or metal tags that include Wayne, Southwest, Tokheim, etc. In general terms you have a "tall" with 'ad glass' on the doors only, not the sides. Some have no ad glass. Without name tag details it could help to see close up details of door hinges for example, or the small service door on the side. Pictures of the shape and fitment of the top panel to the body helps.

 

[SULLY]

I believe it's an Erie.

Sully

 

[SHELCO]

Are the insides (pumps and lines) worthy saving ? Or is all about looks?


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[TT_Vert]

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you guys on this, I've been very busy. I don't see any internal lines just the computer and a few rods. I Just wanted to make it look decent and perhaps get the computer unlocked and light it up. The light on the top seems to be powered by a switch in a box that also has 4 more light sockets (2 each front/back). That switch is engaged by a rod which I assume attached to the handle at some point (Rod missing) to illuminate the top bulb when the handle is removed. I'd like to make that working . At this point the bigger problem is that the old wires are pretty much sealed in some hard substance that has to be drilled out under the sockets. I can't get any of the bulb socket screws out even after soaking them. Also the switch that fed that top bulb is beyond repair. So I'm going to have to start drilling things out and hoping I can source some of these parts just to get it illuminated and then eventually work on the computer to get it going.

I've attached a few pics but the first step for me is to get these light sockets out, source new ones and also try to find this switch.

Dave

 

[turbowoodworker]

Here are some pics of mine. I plan to do a thread on the full restoration that is in progress. But for now...

It is a Gilbert and Barker 177. Original labels suggest it was a Standard Oil pump in NC. (The Sinclair repro plastic globe was added by someone enamored with dinosaurs). I salvaged it from the in laws' farm.

 

[firebirdparts]

That's explosion proof wiring. You really don't need that, of course, and the bulbs aren't supposed to be visible. You could just put some lamp sockets in there if you want to.

there may be a light switch, but I have never heard of one being handle operated. Maybe they were, but I thought they were lit up all the time. The globe would have been lit up all the time, I am sure.

I have Gilbarco 900 series pumps and they have a light switch that is just a light switch.

 

[TT_Vert]

That's explosion proof wiring. You really don't need that, of course, and the bulbs aren't supposed to be visible. You could just put some lamp sockets in there if you want to.

there may be a light switch, but I have never heard of one being handle operated. Maybe they were, but I thought they were lit up all the time. The globe would have been lit up all the time, I am sure.

I have Gilbarco 900 series pumps and they have a light switch that is just a light switch.

That switch in the top left pic goes in that housing and is actuated by that rod you see in that housing. That rod attaches to some linkage somewhere just to turn the top light on.
Or at least that is how I recall, I'll have to go look at it again later.
Dave