Any painters on here?

[340wedge]

I have a mess on my hands. I got some Sherman Williams paint (Endurance) to do my bathroom. It's a tough color, kind of a bright green yellow but in rolling it or brushing it the color is not going on solid. It's dark in some areas and light in others and all different shades and even glosses in some spots. I am painting it over a white wall. Any ideas what went wrong besides me holding a brush!

 

[The Cobbler]

some colours require different bases that don't hide well . deep reds is one of them

 

[Shiftless]

Did you clean the wall well and then apply primer before the paint? The best procedure is to prime with a good quality primer tinted to approach the final color. Too late for that.

Stir well before applying.
Apply a second coat and it should even out. Sometimes jobs require 3 coats.

 

[340wedge]

Primer no..I wish I had...looks like I am trying another coat..thank you

 

[PWC Repair]

A lot of colors will give you a scare until it dries. Is it dry already and still splotchy?

 

[Mark_17]

Yellow is very "thin" it does not cover at all.

When I used to work in the paint dept, you could see how much tinner the yellows were compared to everything else. It was a consistency closer to water where as other colors were thick, almost like honey or molasses

 

[rlitman]

Yellow is very "thin" it does not cover at all.

When I used to work in the paint dept, you could see how much tinner the yellows were compared to everything else. It was a consistency closer to water where as other colors were thick, almost like honey or molasses

True. Yellow is notoriously bad at both hiding what's under it, and being difficult to hide too.

My question is, how long ago was that paint purchased, and was it properly mixed?

 

[Shiftless]

True. Yellow is notoriously bad at both hiding what's under it, and being difficult to hide too.

My question is, how long ago was that paint purchased, and was it properly mixed?

Those are excellent points to consider. Like I said earlier, always stir and inspect color uniformity before applying.
Also, did that paint suffer one or more freeze thaw cycles? That can affect latex paint’s uniformity as well as other factors.

 

[Showkey]

Have had many ( used) homes painted professionally .........never once did they use primer on already painted wall. Yes, to primers on bare drywall.

Every job I have been involved with, two coats is the norm.........as mentioned three coats might be needed to provide coverage, vary dependent on color, surface Texture, sheen choice and quality of prior paint and the new paint.

 

[Higgins]

Before we painted any bathrooms, or utility rooms we washed down the walls to take care of the hair spray, deorderant, dryer sheet residue that was present in the rooms.

Dirtex® power in a quick dissolving powder. Powdered Dirtex® is an excellent general-purpose household cleaner for all washable surfaces, but is gentle to hands and skin. It leaves surfaces clean without rinsing or streaking to save time. Powdered Dirtex® is ideal for cleaning walls and woodwork before repainting or rewaxing.

In those cases we used Dirtex, we skipped using a primer before painting !! Otherwise it was 2 coats of latex primer, followed by 2 coats of latex paint and we were out of there!!

AL

 

[Shiftless]

The O.P. didn’t prime and it’s too late now, but to continue advising about primer... On anything except perfect surfaces, I prime first because after priming you can more easily see imperfections that you might want to deal with. Sanding, filling, sanding some more..whatever is needed to bring the wall up to the level of finish that you want to achieve.
A friend of mine is a professional house painter who works by himself on very high end jobs for very particular clients. He generally primes every square inch no matter what.

But everybody has to balance the time involved with the desired level of finish. Most of the time, I stop with “good enough”.

 

[frankd]

Im thinking you might just need a few more coats. Some colors don't cover as well as others but SW endurance is good quality stuff so I am a little surprised. I remember painting a bedroom red years ago and it look 5-6 coats before we had uniform color.
Priming probably wouldve helped but I'm not sure how much. My family came her from Italy in the 60s. All worked as painters, landscapers, or masons. My old man was a painter for 40+ years. He only used primer on new drywall and even then, I can't remember how many times we used regular paint because we ran out of primer and didn't want to run out to the paint store.

What kind of finish are you using (flat, matte, eggshell, etc?). If you're using anything shinier than matte, you can't touch up the paint after its dried without it being very noticeable. So I
For example if a wall was dry and you noticed a spot that didn't cover well and you touch it up with a roller, it'll be very noticeable.

 

[yeldogt]

I'm picky ... and a good painter. I enjoy painting. Unfortunately -- because of time constraints I typically can't do my own painting on new house project or when repainting large multi room areas. The vast majority of professional painters need to take shortcuts. I'm not even sure it's 10% of painters who do really high end work. I'm in NYC part of the time (not now) ... when you spend time in peoples "money no object" spaces with great paint jobs you can instantly see the difference.

It's very rare where primer is not a help. If you have perfect walls where everything was done correctly the last time and you are just doing a refresh of the same tone ...maybe after a good cleaning a re-coat can be done. But, that is about it.

Most people don't have good walls to start with.

The OP should have cleaned the walls -- bathrooms can be really dirty. It's not unusual that they need a paint prewash to dull the surface after the cleaning. Getting the proper primer and having it tinted is the way to go when changing colors -- especially any reds or yellow. A proper primer seals and preps for the top coat .. I never use universal primers.

The above all assumes a decent wall -- if after the initial cleaning you see patches or shine lines from poor drywall finishing -- they need to be addressed with a "first coat" type product with solids to balance the wall texture. That can go on after a pre wash wipe down that softens the previous paint. Then it's primer and paint ...

Many people still grab PVA primers for new drywall -- drywall has changed and it's the wrong primer today. That's why it does not work well ..

I'm in the land where people prime twice and two top coats -- very quick sand between. Thiner coats with better paint. With the lockdown I have been painting rooms all summer.

With some paint and colors -- multi coats will never solve the problem.

 

[y'sguy]

Something almost everyone does not consider is the lighting.
Flourescent, LED or incandescent, warm or cool? and including natural light? They will all play a part in the way any color will look in a room.

 

[340wedge]

Update on the Paint situation. I apparently was using the roller to dry and just not loading it enough. I loaded more paint in the tray, kept a real wet roller, this paint needs a large mil thickness and in two coats it looks all one color now. Thank you for all the responses.
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