Any PDR guys here? Info on magnetic induction heater for hail dents

[toplessHO]

looking at the cheap heaters on line.
How well do they work?

 

[Cue]

I'm curious as well, where are you finding them cheap?

 

[toplessHO]

Amazon for starters
a few under $200

 

[mrbill55]

Be very careful, as those cheaper units can easily damage the paint. Such things kept my spot work appointments booked weeks out at a time.

Just saying


Bill S.

 

[toplessHO]

yea I thought of that also but most of the time Im working with bare metal anyway.

Any one using one,cheap or not?

 

[Daveo]

i have one, its for small, shallow dents or even waves on a panel. I dont use it much.

 

[toplessHO]

what brand is it?
got any pics of before and after to see its limits?

 

[Daveo]

No pics... the limits are on how deep the dents are... You'll burn paint before you get a deeper dent out. Mine is a WOYO

 

[toplessHO]

first trial will be a hood thats been stripped so no paint worries

 

[Daveo]

What are you trying to do actually?

 

[toplessHO]

many shallow dents on top
equal to hail dents
I dont use filler on topside of hoods.
I also dont like using filler if metal can be worked out

 

[Daveo]

Id almost say, if you can see them (on bare metal) it isnt going to do what you want... I could be wrong.

 

[toplessHO]

I dont use my eyes to find dents.
I use my hands

 

[Daveo]

I used to also
Theres more money in metal finishing
And saving the paint

 

[mrbill55]

I dont use my eyes to find dents.
I use my hands

Teaching new bodyshop owners the same technique always brought strange looks when I took a paper towel to cover my hand, then turned my back to the car and ran my hand across the side of it, stopping to use a wax pencil to circle all imperfections I felt.


Bill S.

 

[toplessHO]

cotton gloves or better yet a nylon stocking works for me.

No one taught me this,but I certainly have passed it on to others.

 

[californiamilleghia]

Are there any good PDR videos on you tube that teachs you the basics and more ,

I would like to get an idea whats possible and what looks easy but is not

Thanks

 

[cgrutt]

Are there any good PDR videos on you tube that teachs you the basics and more ,

I would like to get an idea whats possible and what looks easy but is not

Thanks

Myke Toledo is pretty good he sells subscriptions to his videos but I've watched alot online for free.

PDR Training with Myke Toledo

I show live how my pdr students learn paintless dent repair rapidly within days during their 4 week pdr training.

www.youtube.com

There are a ton of videos out there just Google PDR Training

 

[toplessHO]

my advise to those that want to learn
buy some damaged panels that still have some good practice areas
create some dents and practice.
My first experience with PDR,when it was in the infancy stages
of mainstreaming was 30 yrs ago.
I paid a guy to fix a couple of dents in roof of our 68 Firebird.
He failed miserably(obviously not skilled any better than myself.)
I finished the job and never looked back.
I did find an excellent guy that I use for the jobs that everyone says"no way".
If you have to ,buy a video or 2 and practice,practice,practice.

 

[Daveo]

create some dents and practice.

Most people BEAT big dents is stuff and get frustrated when they cant fix it.... Make some small dimes or less and fix em and move up.

Also, fixing a panel thats not SECURE is like a monkey F-ing a football.... It just doesnt work out. I mean secure like bolted to the car!

 

[TonyTheToolGuy]

I just bought one of these AliExpress 1380W Induction Dent Repair units for $125 on Black Friday and am amazed at how well it works. I bought it for experimentation with induction heating small pieces of metal but had to try it out on PDR. I have quite a collection of PDR equipment but I am not a professional. I am truly amazed at what this can do removing dents on my cars though. As a mechanical engineer with an electronics and programming background, I can tell you these machines are pretty straightforward. This one has a 150KHz frequency and claims 1380 watts, which I have intended to test, but haven't yet. I can say that it heats sheet metal lickety-split and has taken out quite a few small dents and even larger ones 10"+.
The wand appears to have closer spacing of the ferrite horseshoe core than the YouTube video of the Woyo, in the Woyo vs Betag, so I figure it is going to have denser magnetic flux for improved localized heating, plus it claims 1380 watts while the Woyo claimed 1000 watts.
Give it a try, you can hardly lose with how cheap these have gotten.
Oh, you may want to disable the beeper, put a switch or rheostat on it to lessen its annoying noise.

 

[sqznby]

I'd inquire with Elevation Dent Co, the guy performs wonders with PDR repairs.
www.elevationdentco.com

 

[toplessHO]

interesting
I bought one from Amazon and sent it back
It would make noise but never heated anything.
Yours looks just like the one I had. Perhaps I got a dud.