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jeepnut24

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I would like to pick up a straight edge I can use to check heads and blocks for warpage. Any suggestions? I found one other thread here, but it was for machine setup. Would those work?
 
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I just took a chunk of steel to the machine shop and had them mill it. More than accurate for checking a few thousandths on heads.
 

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I have a snap on one
you can get them from machine supply places sometimes for decent money.
or, you can get a piece of cold rolled and get the edge surface ground.
if you are a student you might have a machine shop available? or do you know someone that does

bob
 

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Two thoughts:

1. If you are only doing V8s and 4-cyls, 24" is long enough. Watch eBay for a Starrett or machinist's straight edge. They come through all the time.

2. And no, .005" is not nearly close enough for precision automotive work. We like to hold .0005" FWIW, we rarely pick up the straight edge for heads and block decks. It is SOP to mill every head and block. If the customer hasn't requested a line hone, we'll throw the straight edge in the main bearing bores to check for straightness. Some are, some aren't, but we're moving toward automatically honing all the main bores.

thnx, jack vines
 
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jeepnut24

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I have a snap on one
you can get them from machine supply places sometimes for decent money.
or, you can get a piece of cold rolled and get the edge surface ground.
if you are a student you might have a machine shop available? or do you know someone that does

bob

Nope, not a student. I have had some machine work on for the Jeep though and may look them up again. Ill probably just buy one of the ones posted in this or the other thread on the topic. More convinient for me that way.

What is the proper way to store one?
 
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jeepnut24

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Two thoughts:

1. If you are only doing V8s and 4-cyls, 24" is long enough. Watch eBay for a Starrett or machinist's straight edge. They come through all the time.

2. And no, .005" is not nearly close enough for precision automotive work. We like to hold .0005" FWIW, we rarely pick up the straight edge for heads and block decks. It is SOP to mill every head and block. If the customer hasn't requested a line hone, we'll throw the straight edge in the main bearing bores to check for straightness. Some are, some aren't, but we're moving toward automatically honing all the main bores.

thnx, jack vines


Thats some great info, thanks. Im just looking to replace a few head gaskets and possibly an engine rebuild or two. Right now a 4cyl and hopefully a VR6 in the future. I hope to use it to determine the state of my engine block and head after I blew the head gasket.
 
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I'm used to working on "junk" so a straight edge that is off 0.005" on 4ft is plenty enough to me to be able to tell if the head is warped or not.


Two thoughts:

1. If you are only doing V8s and 4-cyls, 24" is long enough. Watch eBay for a Starrett or machinist's straight edge. They come through all the time.

2. And no, .005" is not nearly close enough for precision automotive work. We like to hold .0005" FWIW, we rarely pick up the straight edge for heads and block decks. It is SOP to mill every head and block. If the customer hasn't requested a line hone, we'll throw the straight edge in the main bearing bores to check for straightness. Some are, some aren't, but we're moving toward automatically honing all the main bores.

thnx, jack vines
 
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Use a piece of Starrett oil hardened ground stock. It comes in various thicknesses and it's very precise. You can probably find it on e-bay if you can't find it locally. I used the same piece for over 10 years before someone "borrowed" it.
 

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Use a piece of Starrett oil hardened ground stock. It comes in various thicknesses and it's very precise. You can probably find it on e-bay if you can't find it locally. I used the same piece for over 10 years before someone "borrowed" it.

+1 on this. I got mine at Kunz Bros in Freeport Illinois. It is precision ground stock from some tool vendor. 1/8 thick 1.5" tall and 30 or 36" long and true to .0005" IIRC. It was half the price of a straight edge from Starrett to.
 

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I'm used to working on "junk" so a straight edge that is off 0.005" on 4ft is plenty enough to me to be able to tell if the head is warped or not.

You may want to recheck that spec.The link you posted shows it as .0005" PER INCH.A precision straitedge would have a spec closer to .0002" per 12".
 
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I picked one up at a Government Motors auction for $5, brand new, kent moore, was issued in some 4 banger FWD transmission tool kit that you cant give away, I eyeballed the straight edge, and pitched the rest of the tools in my "destruction when necessary" pile of tools. One of the those things I wasnt looking for, but stumbled over it.
 
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