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any upholstry stichers in here? sewing problems

rockwithjason

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i started to learn a new skill recently. the cheap back pad on my motorcycle went to **** so i went to the supply place an got some marine vinyl and thread. i used the old pad as the pattern and pinned it together. the problem is with the sewing machine. it was working fine for a while but now i can only get a few stitches before the thread on the lower bobbin wads up and i have to cut it out and start over. any advice?
 
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I am not an upholsterer but I am currently trying to learn and working on my interior for my truck. Are you using a regular home sewing machine? If so it might be that the machine is not up to the task. Upholstery machines have what is known as a walking foot where the foot actually moves and helps pull the material through the machine along with the lower feed dog. Home machines don't have this feature.

If you are just letting a home machine try and pull the material through like it normally would with thin fabric it is probably not moving both materials through at the same rate and causing the stitch to go wonky and wad up. If it works fine when running normal fabric through it this would be my guess. You might still be able to get it to work but you will have to pull the material through the machine as you go rather than just let the machine pull it through.
 
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rockwithjason

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hmm... have had the same issue with lighter fabrics too but i will do some more playing with it and see if the feed issue is the culprit
 

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Need to get an industrial machine for thick materials like that. A Juki is what I have used and they will sew your fingers shut if not careful.
I believe the problem you are having is the timing since the material is thicker than what it is designed for that it slows the needle down that the bobbin spools up as you are says.
 

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My father does upholstery and I actually bought him his machine. It's a monster (very heavy) and nothing like a normal clothing machine.

If the material is too thick it could cause the needle to not pass all the way though and catch the thread from the bobbin. I've also seen when the bobbin is threaded wrong it will cause issues like that.
 
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Maybe it's an issue with the machine since even light fabric had an issue. We hand an issue with our machine (would bunch up the fabric or break the thread. The service guy said it was "out of timing". It must have happened when we moved it around the shop
 

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Small home machines can't run the thick D-92 thread needed to stitch vinyl. you might need to loosen some of the thread pretension from both spool and bobbin. going down in thread gauge will only upset you when the seem pops soon after. seats take a lot of abuse.
Good luck
 

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If the machine was working fine in thin material and the problem you described gets worse with more attempts on thicker material, the needle may not be going far enough down to allow the hook on the bobbin carriage to catch the loop and make a knot.

When you are sewing the eye of the needle goes just past the hook surrounding the bobbin. As the needle is going down, it us pulling thread through the tension discs. At the bottom of the stroke, the thread is pulled as far as possible, so when the needle starts going back up, a small loop is formed. At that instant the hook should be going through the loop in the upper thread. The hook is what ties the upper and lower threads together.

Make sure that the hook is just going by the eye of the needle as the needle begins it's upstroke. Make sure the hook just barely misses the needle. Make sure the thread is routed correctly, particularly in the lower tension bobbin area. Make sure there are no burrs or other defects that are catching the thread. Make sure the needle is straight and is intalled correctly. Blow all of the lint out of the machine and oil it where needed.
 

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Along the lines of an industrial machine, any one of the early black singer machines, or what is known as a Sailrite machine (if you live near a coast with sailboats) will work. These, the Juki, and a few others have all metal gears and were intended to sew anything under the sun, including leather. My wife reconstructed a vinyl shift boot for me on her treadle machine.

My dad has the Sailrite machine he picked up off CL, my wife has the collection of antique singer machines and went with my dad when he bought the Sailrite.
 
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