Anyone else like Channellocks?

[Jim C.]

Someone will have to remind me to take a pic, but I also have an older version of that MX-41 driver which is clear and green. It's marked Upson Bros. who also originally made the Channellock screwholding drivers.

Hey Jeff,

Take a picture of your older version MX-41 and post it here. We'd like to see it!! (reminder officially issued)

Jim C.

 

[metaldad]

Someone will have to remind me to take a pic, but I also have an older version of that MX-41 driver which is clear and green. It's marked Upson Bros. who also originally made the Channellock screwholding drivers.

 

[metaldad]

okie dokie, newest arrivals
Torx drivers, T10-30, NOS, blue bag
Stubbie slotted, #72, NOS, blue bag
4 in 1, #MX41, slightly used
(2) 4'' adjustables, #804N, new. (and I'm running out of room, starting to store items without the packaging)

 

[Westly]

I had to go to Wallyworld today and for the heck of it looked at the channel lock type pliers on the wall. The Channel Lock brand had thin handles that would have hurt your hand if you squeezed hard, as you will do with them. Also, the jaws were flat rather than curved so they would not have gripped well in some cases. On the other hand the Stanley had nice wide comfortable handles and a curve in the jaw. And they were about $5 less expensive.

The Channel Locks said "Fiercely Made in the USA" I wish they were more intellegently made in the USA by cool heads If I know what makes a good pliers, they do. Maybe the Wallyworld variety is their low end. Hope so.

 

[jeffmoss26]

OK guys here is the picture. Been under the weather and not spending a ton of time in the shop.
Unfortunately it has no bits

 

[Outlawmws]

I had to go to Wallyworld today and for the heck of it looked at the channel lock type pliers on the wall. The Channel Lock brand had thin handles that would have hurt your hand if you squeezed hard, as you will do with them. Also, the jaws were flat rather than curved so they would not have gripped well in some cases. On the other hand the Stanley had nice wide comfortable handles and a curve in the jaw. And they were about $5 less expensive.

The Channel Locks said "Fiercely Made in the USA" I wish they were more intellegently made in the USA by cool heads If I know what makes a good pliers, they do. Maybe the Wallyworld variety is their low end. Hope so.

Hmmm I've been using Channellock pliers without any dipped grips for decades. I can't ever recall "hurting my hands" with them.

Curved vs. straight: CL makes both, whether WW stocked them is a different question. I'll take CL over the Stanleys any day of the week.

 

[Travisnd]

Nice haul Metaldad and nice pics Jeff!! Metaldad, if you need room to store some of those blue pouches, just let me know, I'll find space!


I've got a couple items on the way, pics once they arrive!

 

[Westly]

Hmmm I've been using Channellock pliers without any dipped grips for decades. I can't ever recall "hurting my hands" with them.

Squeeze them hard enough and pain will be the limiting factor, not the strength of your grip. Try the Wally Stanleys and you might never go back! Kleins are also soft and wide, At least 1/2" Also less pain when it slips off that narrow frozen 1 1/2" nut you're squeezing so hard on...

 

[Trucky]

I had to go to Wallyworld today and for the heck of it looked at the channel lock type pliers on the wall. The Channel Lock brand had thin handles that would have hurt your hand if you squeezed hard, as you will do with them. Also, the jaws were flat rather than curved so they would not have gripped well in some cases. On the other hand the Stanley had nice wide comfortable handles and a curve in the jaw. And they were about $5 less expensive.

The Channel Locks said "Fiercely Made in the USA" I wish they were more intellegently made in the USA by cool heads If I know what makes a good pliers, they do. Maybe the Wallyworld variety is their low end. Hope so.

If you'd take a minute to look at their website, I'm sure you would find the answers to your questions. Myself, I've had these supposed "thin" handle versions and they do much better than you might anticipate. Judging a somewhat higher end brand because of their selection at walmart is purely guesswork. And you can see just how "intellegently (which isn't really much of a word, FYI.) made" they are via their video of the production of their pliers.

 

[metaldad]

Hey dere Jeff!
what's the items in the pouch/roll to the right?

 

[Outlawmws]

Squeeze them hard enough and pain will be the limiting factor, not the strength of your grip. Try the Wally Stanleys and you might never go back! Kleins are also soft and wide, At least 1/2" Also less pain when it slips off that narrow frozen 1 1/2" nut you're squeezing so hard on...

You are entitled to your opinion for what works for you, but I've squeezed them about as hard as it's humanly possible to squeeze something, and generally the only guys I ever knew that could squeeze one harder than me were lifelong professional sheetmetal workers (those guys had muscles in their hands normal people lack after 20-30 years of using hand snips...). Again, I never hurt my hands doing so. The only time I've hurt my hands was pulling on a wrench "too hard", but that was with my body weight and/or legs behind the pull...

These are no more narrow than the average wrench. You can't put more pressure on those handles gripping them than you can pulling on a wrench. I don't see the issue.

I own and I've used cushion grip pliers before (I own nearly 400 pairs of pliers, grips tongs etc, so yes I have a few cushion grip pliers in the mix...). Frankly I've never been impressed with cushion grip all that much. I prefer plain steel or dipped plastic.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Hey dere Jeff!
what's the items in the pouch/roll to the right?

Lock picks

 

[cosmik binturong]

Here are more pictures of the RV-41 and MX-41. They are the same except have different bits.

is that a double-ended Robertson square bit? if so i should try to get one just for that.

unless my Picquics start a riot in the drawer! they almost did when i tried to put that stinky old Enderes-made ACE 4-in-1...

OK guys here is the picture. Been under the weather and not spending a ton of time in the shop.
Unfortunately it has no bits

looks good too, still, i prefer the blue handled ones.

Lock picks

 

[Outlawmws]

And what you might ask does an IT guy need lock picks for?

 

[cosmik binturong]

And what you might ask does an IT guy need lock picks for?

easy: getting in a server/rack when the local 'tards have "lost" the keys. well, that was what i was using that kind of thingies when i was working the farms almost two decades ago.

 

[jpickar]

You are entitled to your opinion for what works for you, but I've squeezed them about as hard as it's humanly possible to squeeze something, and generally the only guys I ever knew that could squeeze one harder than me were lifelong professional sheetmetal workers (those guys had muscles in their hands normal people lack after 20-30 years of using hand snips...). Again, I never hurt my hands doing so. The only time I've hurt my hands was pulling on a wrench "too hard", but that was with my body weight and/or legs behind the pull...

These are no more narrow than the average wrench. You can't put more pressure on those handles gripping them than you can pulling on a wrench. I don't see the issue.

I own and I've used cushion grip pliers before (I own nearly 400 pairs of pliers, grips tongs etc, so yes I have a few cushion grip pliers in the mix...). Frankly I've never been impressed with cushion grip all that much. I prefer plain steel or dipped plastic.

To get off topic.........I wrestled a guy in jr. high that milked the family cow every day, twice a day. He had a grip that about killed me when we got on the mat. OK........back on topic.

John

 

[Outlawmws]

To get off topic.........I wrestled a guy in jr. high that milked the family cow every day, twice a day. He had a grip that about killed me when we got on the mat. OK........back on topic.

John

That's why you are supposed to lock thumbs and not hold hands...

The days of arm wrestling are now behind me though... "Tennis elbow" and other tendinitis issues are not to be trifled with... That said, I do what I have to, and I'm still stronger than my 26 YO son, and he's bigger than I am...

 

[Westly]

(which isn't really much of a word, FYI.)

It's a fine word, but I won't vowch for the spelling.

 

[Travisnd]

Got a few things in the mail today, 4 piece torx set TX-4K, screwdriver 107CH and a 2005 Channellock Catalog!! More stuff on the way!

 

[Jim C.]

Travis,

You might have the single BEST NOS Channellock collection on the GJ, or anywhere else for that matter!! What's left? Is there anything that's still on your "quest list?"

Jim C.

 

[jeffmoss26]

And what you might ask does an IT guy need lock picks for?

You know as well as anyone that I collect locks
I never use them on any lock I do not own or have permission to open.

 

[Travisnd]

Travis,

You might have the single BEST NOS Channellock collection on the GJ, or anywhere else for that matter!! What's left? Is there anything that's still on your "quest list?"

Jim C.

Thanks Jim! I'm still trying to find some of the bigger size pliers in pouches as well as the smaller "little champ" pliers in pouches.....I'm slowly getting there. The bottom blue box is on my list, but that will probably be a birthday/christmas present later in the year!

 

[tankmech77]

Squeeze them hard enough and pain will be the limiting factor, not the strength of your grip. Try the Wally Stanleys and you might never go back! Kleins are also soft and wide, At least 1/2" Also less pain when it slips off that narrow frozen 1 1/2" nut you're squeezing so hard on...[/QUOTE

I own all CL's and havent hurt my hands yet. I got stuck one day have to use the 12" pair to remove a 24mm hub nut off a forklift, no problem on the hands. It's been awhile admittedly since I've used a pair of Kleins but I see them all around me at work and am pretty sure the handles are about the exact same thickness? As for MODERN stanley garbage, I worked with a guy that kept his shop box full of that "cushion" grip ****, every time he put any of them away he'd have to pick one of those stupid rubber handles off the floor and put it back on first. I will admit though they probably did loosen up more just because every time a handle slid off while being used and he bashed an arm, finger, head or something else resulting from the slip he'd get pissed and throw them down on the floor.

 

[Outlawmws]

Travis,

You might have the single BEST NOS Channellock collection on the GJ, or anywhere else for that matter!! What's left? Is there anything that's still on your "quest list?"

Jim C.

Thanks Jim! I'm still trying to find some of the bigger size pliers in pouches as well as the smaller "little champ" pliers in pouches.....I'm slowly getting there. The bottom blue box is on my list, but that will probably be a birthday/christmas present later in the year!

I'll move from impressed, to VERY impressed when he surfaces with a pair of NOS 910's

 

[Outlawmws]

You know as well as anyone that I collect locks
I never use them on any lock I do not own or have permission to open.

Yeah, but not everyone outside the GS thread knows that...

 

[Jim C.]

I'll move from impressed, to VERY impressed when he surfaces with a pair of NOS 910's

Hey Outlaw,

The first time I read this particular post, it made me think that maybe you know something the rest of us don't know about the 910s. Are they rare in NOS condition? Travis and a few of the guys have found some pretty amazing NOS stuff. Do you think an NOS pair of 910s will be hard to find? For the record, I'm already very impressed with Travis's collection. An NOS collection like that takes patience, time, and some $$$. Maybe I'm just easy...

Jim C.

 

[Outlawmws]

Well based on the fact that last I heard, no one else has posted a set of the CL 910 one handed vise grips except me, I suspect it would be a tough find. They do show up on Eprey, but I've not seen a NOS set in the package.

I bought mine about 35 years ago or so at a race track auction.

 

[Travisnd]

There are currently 4 pair of 910's on ebay, most are pretty used. There was a brand new pair listed within the last two weeks but there was no packaging.

I'll post updated photos of the blue box soon!

 

[Outlawmws]

I just looked at those. While not NOS, a light hit with a fine wire wheel will clean all those up nice. One of them has the little plastic grip on upside down, but that's easy to get back right.

 

[Jim C.]

Well based on the fact that last I heard, no one else has posted a set of the CL 910 one handed vise grips except me, I suspect it would be a tough find. They do show up on Eprey, but I've not seen a NOS set in the package.

I bought mine about 35 years ago or so at a race track auction.

Well you do have a point there. I've been keeping relatively close tabs on this thread and I've only seen one pair of 910s so far.

A race track auction huh???? Who'd a thunk it? I'm impressed by the fact that you remember where you got them. I have some tools that I acquired years ago, and for some reason, I can also remember the circumstances under which they were obtained. For the most part however, many of my prior hand tool acquisitions are just a blur, and in many circumstances, I don't remember where or why I bought the tool. The tools that I actually needed seem to be more memorable than many of the other impulse/binge purchases. Since a good majority of my hand tools aren't conjuring up any specific memories, I suddenly see how many tools I obtained just for the sake of having them......maybe I need help.

Jim C.

 

[Outlawmws]

Thanks Jim. it was a very small affair. fund raiser for something or other after the night's racing was over, run be "Jack Epperson the racing auctioneer!", a local old time racer. His brother also drove. Jack ran the auction and I as buying quite a few tools, and he finally cut me off so "others could get something" Whatever, I thought the point was to raise $$ but...

 

[metaldad]

i keep getting reminded of my purchases, whether necessity or impulse

 

[Outlawmws]

OK, I've only seen one other CL hammer in the thread after a search, and it was not wooden handled. Here are my two, a one oz, and a 10 oz. Interestingly neither were painted CL blue... The 10 is black, and the 1 is red!

 

[Travisnd]

Nice hammers! I've seen quite a few NOS hammers for sale, I just don't have a need for them or room right now....maybe when I buy the bottom blue box!!

This arrived today! NOS 3/8 socket driver!!

 

[metaldad]

OK, I've only seen one other CL hammer in the thread after a search, and it was not wooden handled. Here are my two, a one oz, and a 10 oz. Interestingly neither were painted CL blue... The 10 is black, and the 1 is red!

for some reason, i keep forgetting to pic and post my hammers.
and, for some reason, channey decided to paint their shillelaghs red.

 

[metaldad]

nice driver, mr. T.

 

[Outlawmws]

for some reason, i keep forgetting to pic and post my hammers.
and, for some reason, channey decided to paint their shillelaghs red.

Now you have no excuses! You know the drill!

 

[zkling]

Nice hammers! I've seen quite a few NOS hammers for sale, I just don't have a need for them or room right now....maybe when I buy the bottom blue box!!

This arrived today! NOS 3/8 socket driver!!

Dang, I really wish they still made that. Does it have a female drive square in the top of the handle?

 

[Jim C.]

Nice hammers Outlaw, and I like that NOS driver Travis. Thanks for the photos guys. I've seen more old Channellock tools that I didn't even know existed because of this thread. Good stuff.

Jim C.

 

[cagullett1]

Anyone have any experience with the oil filter pliers, 209? They are on sale pretty cheap at Sears and I recently had a filter that was on so tight I had to stick an old screwdriver through it to get it off.