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Anyone here have the ase wave u-scope?
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VinceG
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it should be fine I have both the Hantek 1008c $80 and the Hantek 6074be $219 and they work good for what I need. just looking @ CAN and occasionally a sensor.
2ndGearRubber
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I have one, been using it for about 9 months, and I'm very happy with it. There isn't so much "software" as there is a basic preset screen when it powers up to get you in the ballpark. No matter what, you will need to make adjustments. It pretty easy to use, I purchased it mainly for ignition, everything else is just gravy. While I would prefer a 4+ channel and a laptop, I don't do enough of that kind of work to get back my investment.
Nothing like finding a weak coil under an intake manifold, and making sure it's on the estimate BEFORE you start working.
Nothing like finding a weak coil under an intake manifold, and making sure it's on the estimate BEFORE you start working.
I love mine and use it anytime I don't want to drag out the very. As other have said the software is pretty basic and you have to know your way around a scope since there aren't any guided tests like you get in others.
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theoldwizard1
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I would never buy a 'scope at any price that did not have at least 2 channels. 4 preferably.
This is a valid point, its definitely more of a supplement to your regular scope. As 80% of the time you will need more than 1 channel.I would never buy a 'scope at any price that did not have at least 2 channels. 4 preferably.
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I have one and it was better than nothing until I found a good deal on a Vantage Ultra. It will do for monitoring a com bus while pulling modules diaganosing a no com or for checking a sensor. It will also work for some ignition issues but eventually you will need a second channel.
When I bought mine I just got the scope instead of the big kit. Then I bought all my leads, amp clamps, etc with banana jacks since I planned to get a Snap On scope. If you eventually plan to get a Pico instead you could get them with BNC.
When I bought mine I just got the scope instead of the big kit. Then I bought all my leads, amp clamps, etc with banana jacks since I planned to get a Snap On scope. If you eventually plan to get a Pico instead you could get them with BNC.
tonyciambrone
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I would never buy a 'scope at any price that did not have at least 2 channels. 4 preferably.
This.
It is a neat little unit but for automotive diagnostics it will not be very useful imo
2ndGearRubber
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This.
It is a neat little unit but for automotive diagnostics it will not be very useful imo
How so? It's not a 4 channel scope, that's the point. The average guy isn't dropping 1000+ on just the scope (no attachments) to see how useful it may be. It's a $350 ignition analyzer which can also do waveforms of standard sensors.
For me, the big value was all the attachments. Those can get expensive quick. Regardless, U-scope made me a believer in the value of a scope. I've never known another person to use a modern scope, so I had no reference to go by for my purchase. For $350, if it only did ignition patterns, I would have already gotten my money back. Purchase of a new scope will likely be overkill for me. I'd like to find a used 4 channel and a beat laptop to run it.
This would be mostly for fun and ****-waving points, not so much to increase productivity or make money.
IME: Being the scope-master in the real world would not be a very profitable endeavor, as much as GJ touts it. Basically it's similar to being the OBDI master, cool skill, but not very useful when most of your customers have OBDII. It's hard enough getting a diag charge on a ticket, let alone justifying the cost of a pico.
American Locomotive
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The thing is, you don't need to drop $1000 to get a 4-channel scope these days. The Rigol 1054z is a 50 MHz 4-channel scope for $350. The hardware itself is excellent, and the software is very polished. It's basically the gold-standard of entry level scopes, and completely shook the industry up. Yeah, a current probe and related accessories is gonna set you back another $100-150, but you'll end up with a far more capable platform.
Don't get me wrong, if you know what your waveform should look like, a single channel scope can be a very useful tool. The small and compact nature of the u-scope certainly adds utility to it as well. However a 4 channel scope can let you look at 4 ignition traces at once, compare ignition events to what the crank sensor is doing, or compare any other sensor against another. It's just a far more powerful tool.
It really comes down with how much you plan on doing with a scope. If you plan on doing basic things, value portability and don't care for advanced functionality, than the $350 u-scope is certainly a good value, especially with the included current probe. However if you think you might want to do more with a scope and don't necessarily need portability, something like the Rigol 1054z for $350 + $150 in accessories is the way to go.
Don't get me wrong, if you know what your waveform should look like, a single channel scope can be a very useful tool. The small and compact nature of the u-scope certainly adds utility to it as well. However a 4 channel scope can let you look at 4 ignition traces at once, compare ignition events to what the crank sensor is doing, or compare any other sensor against another. It's just a far more powerful tool.
It really comes down with how much you plan on doing with a scope. If you plan on doing basic things, value portability and don't care for advanced functionality, than the $350 u-scope is certainly a good value, especially with the included current probe. However if you think you might want to do more with a scope and don't necessarily need portability, something like the Rigol 1054z for $350 + $150 in accessories is the way to go.
Bobioz1
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I have one. I don't use it a lot but it works great. As far as using 1 channel of a scope, I do it almost daily.
WhiffySpark
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The thing is, you don't need to drop $1000 to get a 4-channel scope these days. The Rigol 1054z is a 50 MHz 4-channel scope for $350. The hardware itself is excellent, and the software is very polished. It's basically the gold-standard of entry level scopes, and completely shook the industry up. Yeah, a current probe and related accessories is gonna set you back another $100-150, but you'll end up with a far more capable platform.
Don't get me wrong, if you know what your waveform should look like, a single channel scope can be a very useful tool. The small and compact nature of the u-scope certainly adds utility to it as well. However a 4 channel scope can let you look at 4 ignition traces at once, compare ignition events to what the crank sensor is doing, or compare any other sensor against another. It's just a far more powerful tool.
It really comes down with how much you plan on doing with a scope. If you plan on doing basic things, value portability and don't care for advanced functionality, than the $350 u-scope is certainly a good value, especially with the included current probe. However if you think you might want to do more with a scope and don't necessarily need portability, something like the Rigol 1054z for $350 + $150 in accessories is the way to go.
No mechanic has ever heard of rigol. I took one look at it on google and figured it was something that belongs in a hospital.
That’s exactly why Ase, pico, and snapon are the only 3 choices for most mechanics. 99% of the people ran a snapon. It’s rare to see someone with a pico
Bobioz1
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Just incase anyone is researching this scope, it's actually AES wave u-scope.
Sommech7498
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I have one and have a hantek 1008c. I pull out the uscope unless I need the second channel. It’s a good tool to own. If for nothing else being able to check ignition and injector waveforms is great. With that said between the uscope and hantek w/ accessories I spent around 500 or so. I wish I would’ve just spent a few hundred more and for a used Snapon vantage. I hate being limited to 1 Channel on the uscope and hate using the hantek cuz it’s pretty crappy software and dragging out the laptop is a pain
GTA Matt
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If you have no accessories and want to get your feet wet in the automotive scoping world, there is no better value then the u-scope. If you already have the accessories, then the $150 basic kit is still an absolute great deal. A drop in the bucket compared to most tools that guys using it already own. As you learn, grow and advance your skills and tools, it does not become obsolete. Plenty of uses for a 1 channel and its portability is unbeatable. It's not every day you need a 4 channel, so for ignition systems, injectors, fuel pumps, shift solenoids, any electric motor or signal you want to see on a vehicle, even cam and crank sensors. You don't need multiple channels just to see if you have signal from a crank sensor. I have never heard anything bad about the u-scope, and if you ever did have a problem, the guys at AES are the best.
anndel
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I have a scope that's part of my scan tool and it's well worth it for you to pick up a scope.
American Locomotive
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Why does it look like "it belongs in a hospital"? It's a $350 entry level hobbyist electronics oscilloscope. Even then, it's 15x the scope that any Snap-On or Pico Scope is.No mechanic has ever heard of rigol. I took one look at it on google and figured it was something that belongs in a hospital.
That’s exactly why Ase, pico, and snapon are the only 3 choices for most mechanics. 99% of the people ran a snapon. It’s rare to see someone with a pico
mrjaw14
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Look at lab-nation. 2ch scope that works with computers tablets or phones, and now has automotive features. I have one and it’ll blow the u-scope away. I’ve looked at ignition, current ramps, sensors, etc. You can now program custom probes for pressure transducers and amp clamps. They’ve really upped their game in the last year.
Bobioz1
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Why does it look like "it belongs in a hospital"? It's a $350 entry level hobbyist electronics oscilloscope. Even then, it's 15x the scope that any Snap-On or Pico Scope is.
Yeah, mechanics. Whada they know?
tonyciambrone
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How so? It's not a 4 channel scope, that's the point.
"Gee, I wish this scope had less channels"
- said no one, ever
Aside from how difficult it is to set up, how crappy the display is in an automotive situation and how generally unpleasant to use it is, it is one channel. Much of the value of scopes for automotive work is to see how things respond to each other or interact at the same time. I think I'd rather have $400 than one channel on a tiny handheld unit.
As others have said there are other budget scopes that are better options if it must be at this price point.
And yes, I have ten + hours on the aeswave and over a hundred on a picoscope.
WhiffySpark
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Why does it look like "it belongs in a hospital"? It's a $350 entry level hobbyist electronics oscilloscope. Even then, it's 15x the scope that any Snap-On or Pico Scope is.
It looks like an ekg monitor or something. God knows how many buttons and knobs on the front of that. Which of course will wear off be covered in grease etc. not to mention piss me off based on the fact that I’m trying to view a simple wave form
For people that haven’t used it, they won’t like the snapon price. But that tool made me a **** load of money. They have testing instructions, reference graphs, diagnostic clues etc all built in to. Your rigol doesn’t have any of that.
He’ll you can pick what you want to test and it tells you what leads to plug in and sets everything up for you.