Anyone painted their ceiling black?

[boostaholic1]

If so, how did you go about insulating the roof section?

 

[NUTTSGT]

Kevin painted part of his ceiling black but I'm not quite sure what you are doing.

 

[The Cobbler]

your post is vague. you know what you mean, but I'm having a hard time figuring what you are doing.
are you planning to paint it black then insulate it?

 

[brownbagg]

you need it white to reflect the light

 

[66Caprice]

Do black an blue stripes!

 

[boostaholic1]

Wanting to not "finish" the truss' off but still be able to insulate to maintain temperature. I like the "industrial" black look.
Just wondering if anyone has put some type of insulation up and painted it black along with the joist and had an unfinished ceiling?
Sorry if it is still vague.

 

[tthornto]

Yup, I painted it black installed black lights and a disco ball and hired a DJ who invited a bunch of his friends over. Ecstasy sales have gone way up since then. Neighbors aren't impressed though.

Serously though, if you want advice we need more details. Is the roof flat or sloped? trusses or rafters? does it have a ceiling or is it open to the underside of the roof?

Are you thinking of the style commonly seen in commercial spaces with no ceiling and everything painted black above where the ceiling would otherwise be?

 

[tstaude]

in my old garage the ceiling was black, looked very cool but I had to add a lot of lights to see decent even during the day.
I would not do it again for a work area.

 

[b-boy]

Wanting to not "finish" the truss' off but still be able to insulate to maintain temperature. I like the "industrial" black look.
Just wondering if anyone has put some type of insulation up and painted it black along with the joist and had an unfinished ceiling?
Sorry if it is still vague.

Sounds like spray foam insulation, followed by some type of black paint is what you're looking for.

 

[johnnyradiant]

I recently had to crawl up above a drop ceiling to fix some plumbing in an a typical Chinese Restaurant. It was A-typical for 2 reasons. First was it was clean and not loaded with mice and or rat ****. Second reason instead of no paint or the more standard black paint it was painted white. I could actually see up there with very little extra light and I didn't need to be grossed out by oozy grease and ****.

I think for a working shop I would take advantage of the light enhancement and paint the area with a semi-gloss white once you got your desired insulation in. I've never regretted putting semi-gloss on my shop walls and ceiling. Flat paint is like a huge magnet for attracting or at least showing any and all dust possible. If it's just for show black can be your friend.

 

[kaymccampbell]

I'd go white. A white and black ceiling both get dirty, but a black one looks dirtier faster, and white gives you so much more light to work.

 

[Fastbird]

A friend of mine did. I'll link him and see if he'll post pics.

 

[SALIV8]

I painted a drywall ceiling that was lower than typical ceiling height, in the basement bedroom to give the mirage of it not being so low.

I like it and the wife does too. If you like black then go for it.

 

[moneyisflying]

I did my ceiling in my barn in black. Yeah, it didn't reflect the light as much as something lighter, but it makes it dissapear more, and I have a TON of lighting in my barn anyways, so I think it turned out awesome.

Here's a link to my barn build thread. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237728

 

[egdede]

I recently had to crawl up above a drop ceiling to fix some plumbing in an a typical Chinese Restaurant. It was A-typical for 2 reasons. First was it was clean and not loaded with mice and or rat ****...

atypical: not typical.

I'm glad I read this so I can avoid such typical places. What do you think it is about 'Chinese' restaurants that makes most of them so filthy? Do mice and rats prefer Chinese over typical diner fare? What kind of restaurants do mice and rats dislike? I want to go to those restaurants now that I know mice and rats prefer Chinese. I don't suppose you have any experience with Indian or Mexican restaurants; do you?

 

[JamesW84]

Look up Fab Forums on YouTube. Kyle has spray foam painted black

 

[In The Doghouse]

How about some roofing metal with no paint? That's what I wish I had done.

 

[rburke65]

What’s the ceiling got to do with the roof? And I would not have any idea why one would want to paint their ceiling black.

 

[PassnThru]

Wanting to not "finish" the truss' off but still be able to insulate to maintain temperature.

If you want to finish the trusses off then hang a ceiling on the bottom.

 

[boostaholic1]

If you want to finish the trusses off then hang a ceiling on the bottom.

"Not" finish the truss off.....like no drywall, no metal, or no plywood.
I didn't really think this would be that confusing. I am sorry if I am not explaining this well.
I would like to paint the open truss black, yet I still want insulation. My thought was to put the insulation up and paint everything black, including the insulation.
I will try Google.
Thanks for the help

 

[SALIV8]

I get what you're saying and think it would look good. Just do it.

 

[Platonic Solid]

Knowing nothing about your space, so roughly speaking you'll need 10-15% more light with a black ceiling (5% reflectance) to achieve the same footcandles @ 30" work plane as a white ceiling (70% reflectance).

 

[like2wheel]

I get what you're saying and think it would look good. Just do it.

I agree.

Knowing nothing about your space, so roughly speaking you'll need 10-15% more light with a black ceiling (5% reflectance) to achieve the same footcandles @ 30" work plane as a white ceiling (70% reflectance).

Seems like a fairly small price to pay for that amount of coolness.

 

[rburke65]

Oh....so there isn’t a “ceiling” per say. Got it. Hopefully you have a wide enough top cord on the truss to allow for air flow AND insulation.

 

[W.O.B.]

Knowing nothing about your space, so roughly speaking you'll need 10-15% more light with a black ceiling (5% reflectance) to achieve the same footcandles @ 30" work plane as a white ceiling (70% reflectance).

I take it that it would be 10-15% more fixtures, not lumen output per light, correct?

 

[Platonic Solid]

W.O.B. - Either will work. More fixtures is better WRT even light distribution and shadow reduction.

 

[W.O.B.]

Thank you.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

Originally I was going to go black. I thought the contrast of conduit,BX wiring etc would look good. Decided to go white for a number of reasons. Light, dust and still have the potential contrast but less dramatic. Show us pics when you are done I would like to see what I am missing.

 

[stillnostrebor]

In commercial construction I routinely see open structure fully insulated, all low voltage wiring ran, fixtures up, etc., and then they shoot the whole thing black. It is a thing in PEMB construction to do this, especially for big box construction. Just build it like you want and shoot it the color of your choosing. Add footcandles according to the color you chose.

If you choose to add something after, like Cat6 or speaker wire, or whatever, it will stick out like a sore thumb.

 

[Lassen Forge]

In commercial construction I routinely see open structure fully insulated, all low voltage wiring ran, fixtures up, etc., and then they shoot the whole thing black. It is a thing in PEMB construction to do this, especially for big box construction. Just build it like you want and shoot it the color of your choosing. Add footcandles according to the color you chose.

If you choose to add something after, like Cat6 or speaker wire, or whatever, it will stick out like a sore thumb.

Depends how much insulation you want/need up there... You COULD put up batt and paint over that, but the paint will eventually flex off, look like **** and you'll have to repaint every so often... I would NOT recommend this for the long term. You could do a foam roof above, but that's pricey.

A friend who owned a club (hell of a business, BTW) put up batts between the roof joists, closed them off with rock, THEN painted that flat black. Put his "utility hangers" (conduit, lights, speaker hardware, etc.) up, shot them flat black, then had his utilities hung and shot the cases and whatnot the same flat black (same lot numbers on the paint, and then intermixed).

Go to a bar or nightclub (or TV Studio) that's been blacked out, take some light and a camera, see how the pros do it. If you really want a blackout ceiling, emulate what they did. Because it's not just the structural - it's everything above your light line.

And yeah... have LOTS of good lights below that line. You can thank me later for that advice...

 

[bradpac]

I've seen many restaurants and commercial spaces with metal trusses, with vinyl back insulation over top of them under the roof panels and it all sprayed black. Ends up looking pretty good.

 

[fourjeepin]

I’m not in the middle of painting my basement ceiling, but white, not black. It is all exposed like a restaurant/bar. Much better than a dropped ceiling and it leaves the plumbing & eltrical exposed for future work.

 

[Hilltopmasonry]

"Not" finish the truss off.....like no drywall, no metal, or no plywood.

I didn't really think this would be that confusing. I am sorry if I am not explaining this well.

I would like to paint the open truss black, yet I still want insulation. My thought was to put the insulation up and paint everything black, including the insulation.

I will try Google.

Thanks for the help

I sprayed my daughters toy room ceiling (open floor joist) in the basement black and it looks awesome....everyone loves it. I wouldnt worry about light reflection with black, most light fixtures point (reflect) down anyhow. Black makes the ceiling disappear

Ill snap a picture in the morning

I used Sherman williams black dryfall paint and would highly recommend it since it covers everything nicely

I insulated the rimjoist with sprayfoam, then covered it with rigid foam board for a smooth look, caulked it and sprayed it all black and would do it again if i had to since it was easy and turned out nice


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[Hilltopmasonry]

Here are the pictures

Sprayfoam the rim joist



Wedged foam board and caulked for a smooth look





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