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kunkernator

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I was at the Sears Outlet today picking up some more Industrial stuff when I noticed a set of Industrial raised panel black finished wrenches. I have seen some SO ratchets like this in the past, but this is a first for me to see Craftsman stuff finished like that.

Are black tools rare at all? Are they sought after for any reason? And what purpose does this finish serve (why do companies make black tools)?

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Industrial finish doesn't flake off like chrome, mainly for working on stuff you don't want any foreign contaminants in.
 
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Black tools are made so the finish doesnt chip and break off and fall in to machines and such. Posted at same time lol.
 
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What industry would these be used in mainly? I never see them in automotive applications.

What do you mean by "automotive applications?"

If you mean service techs at dealers and auto repair shops or fixing your POS truck on jack stands in your back yard, then no. Not common at all.

Military, factories, assembly lines, clean rooms, paint rooms and painting facilities, food mfgr. plants, etc. use them. Factory floors and maintence dept's. spec them all day long for service use and for tool cribs.

They are "big boy" special purpose tools and not normally found at Pep Boys or Walmart but from Industrial tool suppliers like Snap-On, Grainger, McMaster Carr etc.
 

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I have a good bit of industrial finish wrenches. Love them. The only down fall is I have to wipe them down after use to avoid rust.
 

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I got the black set in SAE, and the metric in chrome.

Helps when I don't have my glasses on.
 

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I dont use them since I have a habit of leaving tools on things and then I cant find them especially black.
 

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my gt72 is my favorite 1/4 ratchet. I've also got a set of snappy metric wrenches with the industrial finiish that are the bees knees. For me they don't particularly serve any special function, other than I like the way they feel in my hand.
 

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was in the depo last week looking for platic tool boxes,and noticed husky has a black set.weren't anything special,just different from what i'm use to seeing wrench wise.
 

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I bought a bunch of SO black industrial ratchets, and sockets from GE Aircraft..all with color coded bands on them...the SO number are not found on the website and were made for GE from SO...rare...not really worth more...nope..worth less the an standard one. Reason...I will go with most people are like crows..they are attracted to the shinny tools..lol..at least I am..all the industrial ones go the in the bottom drawer.
 

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What do you mean by "automotive applications?"

If you mean service techs at dealers and auto repair shops or fixing your POS truck on jack stands in your back yard, then no. Not common at all.

Military, factories, assembly lines, clean rooms, paint rooms and painting facilities, food mfgr. plants, etc. use them. Factory floors and maintence dept's. spec them all day long for service use and for tool cribs.

They are "big boy" special purpose tools and not normally found at Pep Boys or Walmart but from Industrial tool suppliers like Snap-On, Grainger, McMaster Carr etc.

???
The only tools at a Mercedes-Benz factory that I can think of that aren't chromed are made from aluminum. But then, I've never had one of my Hazets or Stahlwilles flake on me.
 
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Only industrial finish stuff I have is my Cornwell wobble sockets, and most of them are polished steel at this point from use. Black tools are a pain in the *** to find when you drop one in an engine bay or under a car. I can see them where you want to be positive your work piece won't be contaminated, like the build room in an engine or transmission shop though. That's about the only automotive app I can think of where they'd be any better.
 
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The only tools at a Mercedes-Benz factory that I can think of that aren't chromed are made from aluminum. But then, I've never had one of my Hazets or Stahlwilles flake on me.

Good point, for every flaking Hazet tool, I've seen about 100 flaking Snap on tools. :thumbup:
 

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The majority of my tools are black industrial Snap-on. I got a great buy on them when a big set walked home from the Alaska pipeline project back in the '70s and I bought more as I found them.

As all the girls say, "Once you go black, you'll never go back." ;>)

jack vines
 

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The only tools at a Mercedes-Benz factory that I can think of that aren't chromed are made from aluminum. But then, I've never had one of my Hazets or Stahlwilles flake on me.

For automotive assembly lines, outside of engine builiding and electrical assembly (which is usually doen out of house), sure, there are plenty of chrome tools on the floor. mainly air but it's not a "clean" environment.


Most are specailty high dollar air tools like air screwdrivers and specialty air torque specific ratchets and assembly tools.

I did not specify vehicle assembly in my post. I just said mfg. floors. But not all, of course.

Go to a food processing or packaging plant where if a chrome flake got into a canned good, or a paint spray room (electrostatic especially) where a chrome flake or any TTFOT will do a lot of harm and there ya go.

Anything with magents or aircraft FOD as mentioed above is also an issue.

Just one less worry for maintainence dept's and mfgrs.

Just like I can buy the 1000v Wiha insultaed screwdrivers. They can turn a normal screw, cost 2x the price of the stds, but when you use them as intended, they are required and worth their weight in gold. Or down time, recalls or human life. LOL.
 

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For automotive assembly lines, outside of engine builiding and electrical assembly (which is usually doen out of house)

I don't recall seeing any black tools in the engine building process at MB either. I get what you're saying, but in your first post you made it sound like only ne'er-do-wells use chromed tools.
 

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black industrial tools have been made around the world including the US for years.
They are usde in the medical field, food plants, chemical plants and in many places that have dust free inviroments. They are used in clean inviorment places as well as the dust proof. Chrome comes off and gets into things.
 

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I don't recall seeing any black tools in the engine building process at MB either. I get what you're saying, but in your first post you made it sound like only ne'er-do-wells use chromed tools.

Sorry.
Didn't mean that at all.

Ever been in a power plant?
Ever been in a meat packing facility?
Ever been in a cereal mfgr plant?
Ever been in a sewage plant?
Ever been on a mfgr line using electrostatic painting processes?
Ever been in a steel plant and smelting facility?

I have all of them.

i notice lots of things and also talk to those that work at each.
Industrial finsih tools are NOT an industry std. per se', but certain rules, safety stds. and codes govern what tools employees can use and where in some if not many cases.

If you like industrial finshes, then buy them. It's not a rube thing.

It's like buying a 50 caliber sniper rifle for plinking cans at the range.
There are a lot of less expensive and, most times, better options out there for what you are using it for but if you want what you want, then go for it.

Those that need tools for a living to meet certain spec's or to keep a facilty running buy them for a reason and pay the extra $$$$ usually.

No different that products I use that only come in 5 gallon pails or 55 gallon drums.
They are not a home user aimed product but I need and use them none the less with regularity.
But I still pay a premium for them vs. the **** found in smaller quantities from alternative mfgrs.

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I have that set, I doubt its rare but I like them because they don't peel like the chrome Craftsman.
 

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The majority of my tools are black industrial Snap-on. I got a great buy on them when a big set walked home from the Alaska pipeline project back in the '70s and I bought more as I found them.

As all the girls say, "Once you go black, you'll never go back." ;>)

jack vines

Isn't that only true for large black tools?
 
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Thanks for all the info guys!

Guess I have been calling them the wrong thing:lol:

Are these industrial finish tools essentially the same finish as impact sockets?

I do have to agree with some of you, they looked pretty sweet.

Thanks again all!:thumbup:
 
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