Are lithium cordless tools creating more theft opportunities

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Cordless die grinders, cordless angle grinders, cordless sawzall... do you guys think these tools are just giving thieves an easy way to steal things? Consider how easy it is now for bicycle thieves, a cordless angle grinder can easily cut through most steel and will fit in your backpack. And if the theif is worried about "sparks" they use a die grinder (less sparks) or sawzall (which has no sparks whatsoever)

Is anything safe anymore?

 

[Major Ramifications]

I don't know, but it sure makes it easier to remove a parking "boot" from a vehicle.

 

[dr_clyde]

Locks only keep the honest folks honest. A thief is still a thief, if they want to steal your stuff, they will.

Cordless angle grinders and sawzalls have been around for years. They worked plenty good on NiCad batteries to cut a bike lock. Before that, a bolt cutter worked fine.

My point is, if someone really wants your stuff, they will find a way. They always have.

 

[davidhansen]

I doubt it. Even things with a cord would get stolen. Maybe it's just that society is becoming less honest?

 

[Zeke]

Cordless die grinders, cordless angle grinders, cordless sawzall... do you guys think these tools are just giving thieves an easy way to steal things? Consider how easy it is now for bicycle thieves, a cordless angle grinder can easily cut through most steel and will fit in your backpack. And if the theif is worried about "sparks" they use a die grinder (less sparks) or sawzall (which has no sparks whatsoever)

Is anything safe anymore?

I doubt it. Even things with a cord would get stolen. Maybe it's just that society is becoming less honest?

Huh? I have yet to see someone steal a bike by cutting the lock with a corded grinder.

 

[zendriver]

Bolt cutters?

Not sure what lion batteries have to do with it, but I could see a cordless saw taking off a cat converter.


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[Farmall450]

Locks only keep the honest folks honest. A thief is still a thief, if they want to steal your stuff, they will.

Cordless angle grinders and sawzalls have been around for years. They worked plenty good on NiCad batteries to cut a bike lock. Before that, a bolt cutter worked fine.

My point is, if someone really wants your stuff, they will find a way. They always have.

Please go tell politicians this

 

[ttpete]

Locks only keep the honest folks honest. A thief is still a thief, if they want to steal your stuff, they will.

Cordless angle grinders and sawzalls have been around for years. They worked plenty good on NiCad batteries to cut a bike lock. Before that, a bolt cutter worked fine.

My point is, if someone really wants your stuff, they will find a way. They always have.

If you make it more difficult, they'll often go steal someone else's that is easier. There's also the chance they'll be able to leave feet first in the black van with no windows.

 

[zendriver]

Locks only keep the honest folks honest. A thief is still a thief, if they want to steal your stuff, they will.

Cordless angle grinders and sawzalls have been around for years. They worked plenty good on NiCad batteries to cut a bike lock. Before that, a bolt cutter worked fine.

My point is, if someone really wants your stuff, they will find a way. They always have.

Uh securing something is better than not securing something.

Most theives really want unsecured but will settle for easy to break. They are usually not going to sit there for 30 minutes burning through sawblades to cut a really strong lock.

Unless they really want the item as you have stated.


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[shelteredV]

Locks are honest people. Meaning if a thief wants in, a lock won't stop them. I can see Weirds point though, cordless tools are readily available that will make a thiefs work easier. Another reason I live on an island- we don't have to worry about assholes with cordless grinders....

 

[PureLeaf]

Because Ryan won't let user's control their own posts for editing, deleting, etc

 

[stage20]

Locks only keep the honest folks honest. A thief is still a thief, if they want to steal your stuff, they will.

Cordless angle grinders and sawzalls have been around for years. They worked plenty good on NiCad batteries to cut a bike lock. Before that, a bolt cutter worked fine.

My point is, if someone really wants your stuff, they will find a way. They always have.

thanks for posting. keep my from typing it all.

 

[homec]

Yea I've never heard of a thief going using power tools to steal bikes. They're opportunistic thieves and target easy pickings. Unless you've something of particularly high value, in which case maybe someone would bring some bolt cutters. Power tools are noisy and attract attention which is the opposite of what they want.

Don't know where you live but it's extremely common. They're noisy and attract attention but they also know that nobody will life a finger to stop them. People are too afraid of confrontation.

Big locks are frankly useless on anything worth stealing. They provide a false sense of security. I have a carbon fiber road bike and I just never leave it on the street unattended. Even in a super croweded city, thieves would see it and cut it in half without a second though just to get the wheels and other expensive parts on it.

But blaming the tools for theft is like blaming the guns for homicides. Thieves are going to steal stuff. One way or another, they will steal anything of value and what they select will be based on risk vs reward. If there were no bikes to steal with cordless grinders (or no grinders), they'd just move on to something else.

 

[928'er]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a video of a guy using a cordless angle grinder to cut off a bicycle lock on a crowded city sidewalk (maybe NYC). People just walked on by....

 

[Jazz1]

Not for ATM's A pickup truck and a chain is still preferred method

 

[Bobf]

Guess I missed the point. I thought you were referring to the number of tools/batteries left near outlets in new construction being charged, in some cases overnight. Easy pick'ns for theives.

 

[wvrailroader]

We had a big winter storm here a few years back with lots of power outages. All the railroad crossings had generators to power them during this time. They were chained to the buildings beside the crossings with some heavy duty chain. Someone came through during the night with a corded angle grinder, plugged it in, cut the chain and drove away with several generators.

 

[ttpete]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a video of a guy using a cordless angle grinder to cut off a bicycle lock on a crowded city sidewalk (maybe NYC). People just walked on by....

In NYC, only the criminals are armed. Around here, it could very well be different.

 

[Melodiv]

Why would stealing be the first assumed use of cordless tools?? The first thing I think when I think of all the new amazing cordless tools is all of the awesome ways I can use them, such as helping people stuck on the side of the road or in the garage since I don't have a compressor big enough for air tools!!


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[Derek420]

Most thieves these days are drug addicts and if they had a lithium powered tool or any tool they would sell it or trade it for dope before they would work harder to steal a bicycle. IMO they couldn't afford one in the first place unless they stole it and like I said above.

 

[JJThrasher]

Bolt cutters are easier, cheaper, and quicker. You guys should check out Bosnianbill's Youtube channel. He does lock picking mostly, but has some interesting destructive testing showing just how easy it is if you don't care. I'm not saying you shouldn't lock your stuff up, but it's only so good.

 

[Horsethief]

My ex-wife had my tractor locked up with a grade 70 chain. I busted the handle on the bolt cutters the first time I went after it. I went back with a Hitachi cordless grinder the next week. I have the drill so I saved having to buy batteries. 2 seconds with a cutoff wheel. Got up on the tractor and she had put a Masterlock steering wheel lock on it. I'm not sure what that was going to do but I cut it off too. Just because I could.

 

[L.Cheapo]

I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw a video of a guy using a cordless angle grinder to cut off a bicycle lock on a crowded city sidewalk (maybe NYC). People just walked on by....

Anyone whos spent any significant amount of time in NYC knows something like that is so tame its not even a blip on the attention getting radar.

Sad but true.

Now if the thief were naked, singing country music songs at the top of his lungs, and had a pet polar bear on a leash while he used a cordless angle grinder to cut off a bicycle lock, he might get noticed.

 

[chrisnazzy]

My ex-wife had my tractor locked up with a grade 70 chain. I busted the handle on the bolt cutters the first time I went after it. I went back with a Hitachi cordless grinder the next week. I have the drill so I saved having to buy batteries. 2 seconds with a cutoff wheel. Got up on the tractor and she had put a Masterlock steering wheel lock on it. I'm not sure what that was going to do but I cut it off too. Just because I could.

Almost didn't go on to page 3 of this thread. So glad I did. Hilarious!

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[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Bolt cutters are easier, cheaper, and quicker. You guys should check out Bosnianbill's Youtube channel. He does lock picking mostly, but has some interesting destructive testing showing just how easy it is if you don't care. I'm not saying you shouldn't lock your stuff up, but it's only so good.

Yep here he is cutting through locks in mere seconds with a cordless makita die grinder:

 

[NorthSea92]

I think most of the people stealing cats or DPFs around here will be using some sort of cordless saw or grinder


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[Pipe]

We had a big winter storm here a few years back with lots of power outages. All the railroad crossings had generators to power them during this time. They were chained to the buildings beside the crossings with some heavy duty chain. Someone came through during the night with a corded angle grinder, plugged it in, cut the chain and drove away with several generators.

Ha!

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[DaveIRL]

not to derail thread, but what do people think of the transit vans locks and the availability of trib locks which can open them in minutes. so instead of using a cordless grinder they just use a key-tool

 

[Packard V8]

That's like blaming SUVs and pickups for having enough ground clearance that thieves can roll under them and thief the cat converter. But yes, cordless tools do make it easier. They're just waiting for the James Bond wristwatch-mounted cordless laser cutter - noiseless.

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