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Are Ryobi HP+ tools a big step up over their base tools?

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Just curious. I've switched to Metabo HPT 36 Voltfor my main set (replaced 10 year old Ryobi). However, I'm thinking of Ryobi HP+ for my second set (in the house etc). I like some of my Ryobi items like Fans and portable air compressors. Just curious if the HP+ are a big step up or just buy the 18 V Metabos and be doe with it
 
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The brushless stuff with the correct batteries has noticeable more power. I notice it most in the grinders. I’ve used and abused Ryobi stuff in my farm shop for a long time and have had no reason to switch to another platform yet so I keep adding stuff as needed.
 

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Ryobi got some gems for sure, they are better with the right battery. my one+ brushless have been flawless for the last 4y. I normally don't like to have multiple Battery platforms, so i would stick with what i have. The warranty is spotty, but the tools are cheap so its not a huge issue for me.
 

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Not sure if it's a big step up or not, but I've been happy with the quility of the new tools and they perform better than the old blue ones. I've been on this platform for 25+ years, so I'm probably not going to change.

I was close to adding/switching with their clunky ratchets, but I've gotten used to them now so I haven't found a reason to switch.
 

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In my experience the batteries seem a better and the brushless tools are noticeably more powerful.
 

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The brushless stuff with the correct batteries has noticeable more power. I notice it most in the grinders. I’ve used and abused Ryobi stuff in my farm shop for a long time and have had no reason to switch to another platform yet so I keep adding stuff as needed.
Same, except without the farm.

Yes, the newer brushless stuff is VERY noticeably much better quality with more power and longevity than Ryobi stuff from five or ten years ago, and the HP tools and batteries have noticeably more kick.

I really do like the fact that the HP tools still work fine with non-HP batteries, just not with all the possible beans.

However, you do have to pay VERY careful attention when buying batteries; the "HP" can easily get lost in the acronym soup. And of course some tools aren't available in brushless or brushless+HP because they kinda don't need to be. For example, my most-used tool by far is a tire inflator. It's cheap and works great, and didn't really need to be brushless. Same for a couple of other tools. There's a brushless version of the saber saw, and it's more powerful and lighter, but the brushed version works perfectly well; it's not a tool that requires big torque.
 

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That's the point of the HP line.

I suspect it came about when SBD was putting out materials suggesting Craftsman's cordless tools would be available in a bunch of different flavors from homeowner to professional grade. SBD claimed you could buy into the base cordless tools for cheap to get users into the platform, but that brand would also have pro tools to compete with Dewalt and Milwaukee.

It never really came to fruition as SBD trimmed back on the Craftsman rollout. Craftsman definitely has budget tools and also mid-tier tools, but they don't have much top-tier stuff.

Anyway, my theory is that Ryobi saw that roadmap and thought "we could do that and steal their thunder".
 

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If you're going to pay the premium price for the Ryobi brushless just buy the Milwaukee Fuel. Ryobi is a cheap tool for getting a job done. When they cost as much as a professional tool the value proposition dies.
 

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If you're going to pay the premium price for the Ryobi brushless just buy the Milwaukee Fuel. Ryobi is a cheap tool for getting a job done. When they cost as much as a professional tool the value proposition dies.
It's not that I disagree, but I think the idea with HP is that you can buy cheap tools, those exotic tools only Ryobi makes or pro tools, all while sticking with a single brand and battery platform.
 

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It's not that I disagree, but I think the idea with HP is that you can buy cheap tools, those exotic tools only Ryobi makes or pro tools, all while sticking with a single brand and battery platform.
To me the battery platform is the issue with Ryobi. BIG, BULKY, AND UGLY. Yea, I know they've kept it the same for 50 years. My answer to that is that a good thing? I like the new Makita batteries a hell of a lot more than the original stick batteries. Change is not a bad thing.
 
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To me the battery platform is the issue with Ryobi. BIG, BULKY, AND UGLY. Yea, I know they've kept it the same for 50 years. My answer to that is that a good thing? I like the new Makita batteries a hell of a lot more than the original stick batteries. Change is not a bad thing.
They would lose my business if they changed. Not that I like the battery design but it’s nice that any tool will work with any battery since the old blue beginning days. I have a few blue tools I still use and it’s nice not having to have different batteries for it all like the other platforms have done over the years. If i had to get different ryobi batteries anyway I’d look at a different brand. Not that I dislike my Ryobi stuff but if i need two battery styles anyway I may as well look around.
 

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The battery is a big, bulky dangling box getting in your way no matter what battery platform you're on; Ryobi's "stick" on the top doesn't really seem to make things any worse or better in this regard. DeWalt used to be that way, too.
 

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The battery is a big, bulky dangling box getting in your way no matter what battery platform you're on; Ryobi's "stick" on the top doesn't really seem to make things any worse or better in this regard. DeWalt used to be that way, too.
My feeling too. I don't really notice a difference using my Ryobi or Dewalt tools.

If Ryobi ever does upgrade the design to the modern norm, they could just release a stem adapter.
 
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dclark2171

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If you're going to pay the premium price for the Ryobi brushless just buy the Milwaukee Fuel. Ryobi is a cheap tool for getting a job done. When they cost as much as a professional tool the value proposition dies.
I agree. That's a good point. You can buy nice Milwaukee sets at a good price.
 

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If you're going to pay the premium price for the Ryobi brushless just buy the Milwaukee Fuel. Ryobi is a cheap tool for getting a job done. When they cost as much as a professional tool the value proposition dies.
Ryobi also makes some things no one else makes for whatever reason. At least not affordably.

Cordless bolt cutters for example. Saves my shoulder since I deal with a lot of bolt seals.

So good that even Walmart went to Home Depot and bought them for their DCs.

Other alternatives are thousands of dollars. These are $129.
 

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The battery is a big, bulky dangling box getting in your way no matter what battery platform you're on; Ryobi's "stick" on the top doesn't really seem to make things any worse or better in this regard. DeWalt used to be that way, too.
Yeah I mean it goes up inside the tool anyway. Usually in a handle that has to be there regardless.
 

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the battery complains are hilarious to me, its never been an issue. I've have similar experiences with other brands, most have the same "issues". For the most part they have good specs and value, they also make certain tools no one other does. I just bought their long scrubber for cleaning, never have I've cleaned my tub/tiles fast. super nice to have and my back appreciates it lol. Now some tools are overpriced, but the standard tools aren't.
 
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dclark2171

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the battery complains are hilarious to me, its never been an issue. I've have similar experiences with other brands, most have the same "issues". For the most part they have good specs and value, they also make certain tools no one other does. I just bought their long scrubber for cleaning, never have I've cleaned my tub/tiles fast. super nice to have and my back appreciates it lol. Now some tools are overpriced, but the standard tools aren't.
Ryobi does have the advantage for non traditional power tools options (scrubbers, cutter, etc)
 

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Ryobi does have the advantage for non traditional power tools options (scrubbers, cutter, etc)
Yep that's why i consider them a great home owner tool/diy mid level tool. I've used them semi professionally for a while now, still haven't let me down, i don't abuse tools so that plays into it too.
 

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The battery is a big, bulky dangling box getting in your way no matter what battery platform you're on; Ryobi's "stick" on the top doesn't really seem to make things any worse or better in this regard. DeWalt used to be that way, too.
Practically every power tool manufacturer used to have the “stick” on the top that inserted into the tool.
This included Milwaukee back when the batteries were made in Mexico, Metabo, Porter Cable, Dewalt, Makita, Ryobi, Bosch, Hilti, Panasonic, and a bunch of other brands.
 
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