Armstrong Chinese torque wrench
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Fedwrench
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I wouldn't consider the case to be a tool but, some people here get excited about where a hat is made
Mustang1167
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I wouldn't consider the case to be a tool but, some people here get excited about where a hat is made
Some of us have pride in our country. Idk crazy talk I guess.
A lot of hate for the Made in the USA crowd lately around here.
Mustang1167
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Precision instruments makes nice USA made torque wrenchs if that’s what your after.
Because you worked really hard at it and took special precautions to ensure that you were born here, and not say Rio or Brisbane or Marrakesh?
Some of us will never, ever understand having pride in something that was out of your control.
Mustang1167
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If no one has been about to explain patriotism to you by now then I am certainly not going to waste my time trying.
funny how i used to work with a guy who was super proud of his country (USA) yet he was born elsewhere
he didn't consider Haiti his country even though he lived there most of his childhood...
on the flip side i know a fair few people born here who are not proud of their country... and i don't blame them this country is definitely falling very short of what it could be...
Fedwrench
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It might be. I think the USA was stamped on the locking collar if it's a micrometer type torque wrench. I know Gearwrench used to have US made torque wrenches but, moved production to the PRC a couple of years ago. Armstrong might have caught up in the same move.
BDT/NWMN
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Likely the case was imported on the same boat as Fedwrench's cap.
I understand that Armstrong died on March 2017 as a USA tool line.
Long live their memory. Use that torque wrench with pride.
Jazz1
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Made in USA is no guarantee of quality. I bought a Lazyboy and 1 year later the covering material is delaminating. Too bad so sad for a $2500 chair. Only 1 year warranty on the material. Plenty of threads on this **** Lazyboy is pedalling.
I wouldn't consider the case to be a tool but, some people here get excited about where a hat is made
You don’t think there’s a difference between false claims (proudly made in X on the outside, inner label says made in Y) and simply outsourcing?
The actual item (hat, wrench, car) does not matter. Nor does the actual COO, only the mismatch. The principle is constant.
ihateminimumwage
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I didn't realize until searching that the final run of Armstrong torque wrenches are the same Chinese models that Gearwrench switched over to (when they quit using the Armstrong/Matco design).
Wamsutta
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The original Armstrong, K-D, GearWrench, Matco, USA made torque wrenches are easy to spot by their knurled twist lock ring. The Chinese versions will be identical to the Home Depot Husky with the spring loaded pull down lock ring configuration.
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BDT/NWMN
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Well, You were under the assumption that You were buying a USA made tool. I wasn't aware there was a Chamrstrong torque wrench in their """lineup""" ... Now We all know the rest of the story.
Wamsutta
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The USA Armstrong will look like this:
FigureItOut
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I have the non flex head version of ^that^. Got it for $50 at a pawn shop. Its a nice wrench.
bczygan
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride
Pride is an inwardly directed emotion that carries two antithetical meanings. With a negative connotation pride refers to a foolishly[1] and irrationally corrupt sense of one's personal value, status or accomplishments, used synonymously with hubris. With a positive connotation, pride refers to a humble and content sense of attachment toward one's own or another's choices and actions, or toward a whole group of people, and is a product of praise, independent self-reflection, and a fulfilled feeling of belonging.
In Judaism, pride is called the root of all evil. In Christianity, pride is the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, the father of all sins.
Philosophers and social psychologists have noted that pride is a complex secondary emotion which requires the development of a sense of self and the mastery of relevant conceptual distinctions (e.g. that pride is distinct from happiness and joy) through language-based interaction with others.[2] Some social psychologists identify the nonverbal expression of pride as a means of sending a functional, automatically perceived signal of high social status.[3] In contrast, pride could also be defined as a lowly disagreement with the truth. One definition of pride in the former sense comes from St. Augustine: "the love of one's own excellence".[4] A similar definition comes from Meher Baba: "Pride is the specific feeling through which egoism manifests."[5]
Pride is sometimes viewed as corrupt or as a vice, sometimes as proper or as a virtue. While some philosophers such as Aristotle (and George Bernard Shaw) consider pride (but not hubris) a profound virtue, some world religions consider pride's fraudulent form a sin, such as is expressed in Proverbs 11:2 of the Hebrew Bible. When viewed as a virtue, pride in one's abilities is known as virtuous pride, greatness of soul or magnanimity, but when viewed as a vice it is often known to be self-idolatry, sadistic contempt, vanity or vainglory. Pride can also manifest itself as a high opinion of one's nation (national pride) and ethnicity (ethnic pride).
bczygan
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Pride seems to be the root of most of the evil I see in the world. National pride being the worst offender. It's caused almost all the death, destruction and waste that humans are capable of.
Bill
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Strouty
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So pride and ego are both the enemy now.
I like both, may lightning strike m.............
I like both, may lightning strike m.............
bczygan
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Does it matter?
Not really.
I am happy that my fellow beings can make such things, wherever they are on our shared planet.
Bill
I am proud, that both of Merlin rocket engines andthe space X vehicles are American-made.
But a torque wrench, which is basically a few pieces of machined, formed and heat treated metal, doesn't really matter.
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But a torque wrench, which is basically a few pieces of machined, formed and heat treated metal, doesn't really matter.
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Maybe if people had a bit more pride in their city, Detroit wouldn't be such a mess. There's plenty of death, destruction and waste there, and although it's certainly debatable, I would argue that almost all of it is caused by a LACK of pride. A lack of pride from the politicians and leaders of the city, a lack of pride from the residents, and a lack of pride from Americans in general about what used to be made there.
I've worked with people from all over the world. People that don't have pride in their country and what's produced there are definitely the exception. Maybe a year ago, I was walking down the street here in the US with a Korean engineer from Samsung. We walked by a Hyundai parked on the side of the road. He drew my attention and pointed at the car. He pounded his chest with his fist, over his heart, and said "Now there's a great car!" That's what normal looks like.
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Or maybe just what a poor taste in cars looks like.
I didn't have the heart to tell him my opinion.
Hyundai’s came a long way and I wouldn’t call them crappy cars now.
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1990 Grand Wag
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Depending on the model, that Hyundai that he was proud of was probably assembled in Montgomery, AL or West Point, GA (a Kia plant plant that assembles the Hyundai derivatives of a Kia vehicle)!