Ashford Formula?

[Pritch]

I'm curious if anyone has heard of this stuff:

http://www.ashfordformula.com/

I used it on my shop floor and I recommend it very highly. It is a sealer/surface hardener. I don't know how expensive it is, we always have several barrels of it laying around at my work. (I have been in commercial concrete for 25+ years) It is far and away the best stuff I have ever used to seal a slab, if it is applied correctly (which is simple) After five years, water still beads up on my shop floor and spilled used motor oil just wipes up without a trace.

 

[comp]

it does look good

 

[Mike]

professional application only?

 

[djett]

FYI, I contacted the Florida rep (Jim 813-269-0417) and he stated that although it could be used in a residential application such as a garage, it is not what the product was designed for. He stated that unless the floor is regularly buffed and/or a high traffic area such as a warehouse, it will not develop the shine finish. His recommendation for a garage is an epxoy floor.

 

[WolverineCoatings]

This is just a Sodium Silicate type of product which fills the pours, reacts with laitenance, and gets hard. These types of products have alot of good uses but do not have good resistance to chemicals... These types of products are not resistant to things like battery acid, brake fluid, many weed killers, and many other chemicals.

I think that products like this would be a great choice for an individual who just wants a bit of sealing and dust-freeing and is not concerned about chemicals... It appears that this company is being careful not to identify that it is Sodium Silicate. Many companies try to 'brand' commodity products like this so that they sell them for more money.

 

[Pritch]

This is just a Sodium Silicate type of product which fills the pours, reacts with laitenance, and gets hard. These types of products have alot of good uses but do not have good resistance to chemicals... These types of products are not resistant to things like battery acid, brake fluid, many weed killers, and many other chemicals.

I think that products like this would be a great choice for an individual who just wants a bit of sealing and dust-freeing and is not concerned about chemicals... It appears that this company is being careful not to identify that it is Sodium Silicate. Many companies try to 'brand' commodity products like this so that they sell them for more money.

All good points, to be sure. We use it alot at work, depending on architects (some spec it and some don't). I have actually spilled both battery acid and brake fluid on my floor and I can still see where the acid was, but not the brake fluid. I know if I buffed the floor it would shine more, but even with sweeping, it gets a luster. I have found it to be an fine sealer, and the no dust thing is a big hit with me. I like it most, though, because it does all that and dosen't look like a sealed floor. I've been a concrete finisher for 25 years and really like the look of a well done concrete slab.

 

[nonhog]

This is just a Sodium Silicate type of product which fills the pours, reacts with laitenance, and gets hard. These types of products have alot of good uses but do not have good resistance to chemicals... These types of products are not resistant to things like battery acid, brake fluid, many weed killers, and many other chemicals.

I think that products like this would be a great choice for an individual who just wants a bit of sealing and dust-freeing and is not concerned about chemicals... It appears that this company is being careful not to identify that it is Sodium Silicate. Many companies try to 'brand' commodity products like this so that they sell them for more money.

Hi Wolverine ,
hope this question is not "out of line" I want to seal my floor for better protection . Time and money are huge for me right now . Momma will want her area in my shop to store stuff till we re-do her garage (attached) but I want some protection this Ashford Formula sounds about right . HOWEVER
I couldn't help notice your responce about sodium silicate . HMmmmm
what other products would be similar to this any idea ? thanks!

 

[WolverineCoatings]

The last time I checked, Ashford is a cheap as anyone else for this...

Another option is cheap Thermoplastic Acrylic Sealer (Solventbased)... We sell one called AryliSeal 3401 but the shipping would make it more expensive than a local product (for small areas)... There is nothing special about any of these types of products other than the solids... So, we wouldn't really offer any more quality than anything else of this nature with the same solids... The price is going to be about the same from anyone so a product that doesn't have to be shipped is going to win on cost...

 

[unrinoceronte]

This is just a Sodium Silicate type of product which fills the pours, reacts with laitenance, and gets hard. These types of products have alot of good uses but do not have good resistance to chemicals... These types of products are not resistant to things like battery acid, brake fluid, many weed killers, and many other chemicals.

I think that products like this would be a great choice for an individual who just wants a bit of sealing and dust-freeing and is not concerned about chemicals... It appears that this company is being careful not to identify that it is Sodium Silicate. Many companies try to 'brand' commodity products like this so that they sell them for more money.

Hi WolverineCoatings, or anyone else, i dont live on USA, but i was hoping if you can help me with this. Do you know a product from SIKA called Sikafloor CUREHARD-24? is it similar to the Ashford Formula? The specs on the Curehard says it is a sodium silicate product...

This is the link to that product:

http://www.sika.co.uk/uk_construction-curing_agents

thanks in advance,

Javier

 

[WolverineCoatings]

Yes... it's a Sodium Silicate solution...

 

[unrinoceronte]

Yes... it's a Sodium Silicate solution...

Thanks, have you used it in a project, or tried it? (the Sika Curehard)

 

[Edger]

Will the moderator get rid of this nut kiranglobalchem

 

[pauls340]

my 2c's, coming from someone who has sold sodium silicates. If you talk with anyone from a D.O.T., in just about any state, they call it "liquid glass" it references what it would be like when it gets wet. It's almost as dangerous as Polyglas tires in a rain storm!

 

[tncatadjuster]

my 2c's, coming from someone who has sold sodium silicates. If you talk with anyone from a D.O.T., in just about any state, they call it "liquid glass" it references what it would be like when it gets wet. It's almost as dangerous as Polyglas tires in a rain storm!

The term "water glass" is much older than that, 1640 is the first date I saw. My family used it back in the 60's with wood. I used a product called "invisible glove" that you would rub onto your hands for grime protection, and then when washed with water, all dirt would be gone.

Seems even the auto guys used it: Rather than remove the cylinder head, "liquid glass" is poured into the radiator and allowed to circulate. The waterglass is injected via the radiator water into the hotspot at the engine. This technique works because at 100-105 °C the sodium silicate loses water molecules to form a very powerful sealant that will not re-melt below 810 °C.

 

[bmxdarcy]

I hate to drag up an old thread but it seems the right place to ask:

I put down Ashford after they poured my shop and I was really happy with it. However, in the couple years since it doesn't seem like it's sealed as well as a topical sealer. Oil and water seem to just soak in. I considered renting a floor machine to try to buff it up some but am I better off coating it with something else?

I'd like something that can handle oil and solvents occasionally, I had originally thought Ashford would be good but it sounds like it's not.