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CitadelBlue

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Asphalt or Concrete

I have a 25 foot sloped driveway approximately 475 square feet. It's currently asphalt, 25 years old, cracked and I have a sink hole close to the house. Believe the hole dug for the foundation wasn't tamped prior to installing the asphalt and its settled about 8 inches. . I want to remove the old stuff and replace it with either 4 plus inches of concrete or 3 inches of asphalt.......

What are you guys using for driveways .. asphalt or concrete?

Thanks .....
 
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Concrete. By the time you get a base good enough to top coat, you could just to the concrete. Drag strip replaced half the asphalt parking lot last year, went all concrete. Much nicer surface to park on.
 

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It's really a no brainer...use reinforced concrete and when done properly is practically no maintenance. Asphalt requires constant maintenance and has many draw backs.
Example: was asphalt or concrete used for your garage floor? Which requires a seal coat every couple of years? The difference in cost means little when the cost of maintenance is factored in. My opinion based on personal experience.
 

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I'm the oddball of the group. I took out concrete and put in asphalt.

BUT.....before everyone starts flaming me....we had a turnaround drive in front of out house directly across from an intersection. So out turnaround drive was convenient for people to use. It may sound odd, but I don't really care if someone pulls in, then backs out to change directions, but to use the complete drive is like an invasion of property to me.

Then the drive was not what I would say wide enough, so they were running into the lawn, or running into the flowerbed, or both. Plus the fact, I had just put in a new sidewalk around the house, and from the house down to the drive. Some jackwad ran over it and cracked the new sidewalk about a week after it was poured.

NOW....the main reason that we went from perfectly good concrete to asphalt.....in the winter, the sun does not hit the front of the house very much. And the fact that when our road was redone, it made the road higher than the driveway. If we would get days in the winter that the snow would possibly melt some, it would refreeze, and we would end up with ice, both at the garage door,plus at the road. Our mailbox is across the road, so we would have to walk on ice. One year the ice was over 3" thick for most of the winter.

To my garage, I have asphalt. The house drive now, is a backout and turn around or park area and is now asphalt. In the winter, as long as the sun comes out, it can be as cold as 10-15 degrees and the snow will start melting off of the asphalt, while the gravel drives, and concrete drives around are still froze and iced up.

But that is Ohio. In the dead *** of summer, a trailer sitting for a prolonged period will leave dents. Any gas spills, oil spills can possibly soften the asphalt unless coated real well, but will still stain things. One advantage, it can be coated with a sealer and made to look like new.

Heavy trucks,concrete trucks, dump trucks, large propane trucks, are not recommended. And if they drive off of the edge, it can bust the asphalt. You can't use a floor jack on it in summer, and even in cool weather for that matter as it will leave dents. Absolutely no jackstands unless you have a good thick support board under them. Asphalt is HOT. If you have asphalt near a porch or someplace where you sit in the summer, you will notice a difference in temperature vs. concrete in the same area.

If you are a person who does a lot of work on a vehicle in a driveway, you need a concrete pad for a stable work area.

Concrete, when done correctly will outlast asphalt by years if not decades.

Cost.....Concrete will cost you 4-5 times the amount over asphalt, and depending on location, could easily double that to 8-10 times the amount over the cost of asphalt.

Edging....if you start out with a nice straight edge on your asphalt, after a few years you will lose that straight edge. The reason being is that asphalt is tapered down on the edges, and grass and weeds are some tough stuff. It will slowly break the edge down little by little over the years. Not much, but enough that you do not have a nice crisp line. And a lot of people likes that nice crisp line. With concrete, you have full thickness all the way through the edges, and if you use an edger periodically, you will always have that crisp edge.

So location plays a very huge part in the difference between the two. Hot weather plays a huge difference in whether you want to work on it or concrete when it is full sun, 95 degrees out. Cost also is a very huge factor in determining your choice.

And there are other alternatives to both asphalt or concrete. You can get gravel, you can get tar and chipped which is a cross between asphalt and gravel, you can get pavers, you can get the concrete or plastic grids to drive on and have grass planted but the grids prevent grass damage.

There are a lot of options, and what may suit one person, may not suit the next person. Or it may not even suit the neighborhood. If you are living in a $500,000 fancy brick home in an upscale neighborhood, asphalt may look out of place, and gravel would really make it look like **** altogether.

So look around, see what others have in your area, look at your property, and decide what would suit it best to be both functional, but to also add to the aesthetics of the property. Curb appeal goes a long, long, way when others drive by, or if you are potentially going to sell it later.
 
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I'm the oddball of the group. I took out concrete and put in asphalt.

BUT.....before everyone starts flaming me....we had a turnaround drive in front of out house directly across from an intersection. So out turnaround drive was convenient for people to use. It may sound odd, but I don't really care if someone pulls in, then backs out to change directions, but to use the complete drive is like an invasion of property to me.

Then the drive was not what I would say wide enough, so they were running into the lawn, or running into the flowerbed, or both. Plus the fact, I had just put in a new sidewalk around the house, and from the house down to the drive. Some jackwad ran over it and cracked the new sidewalk about a week after it was poured.

NOW....the main reason that we went from perfectly good concrete to asphalt.....in the winter, the sun does not hit the front of the house very much. And the fact that when our road was redone, it made the road higher than the driveway. If we would get days in the winter that the snow would possibly melt some, it would refreeze, and we would end up with ice, both at the garage door,plus at the road. Our mailbox is across the road, so we would have to walk on ice. One year the ice was over 3" thick for most of the winter.

To my garage, I have asphalt. The house drive now, is a backout and turn around or park area and is now asphalt. In the winter, as long as the sun comes out, it can be as cold as 10-15 degrees and the snow will start melting off of the asphalt, while the gravel drives, and concrete drives around are still froze and iced up.

But that is Ohio. In the dead *** of summer, a trailer sitting for a prolonged period will leave dents. Any gas spills, oil spills can possibly soften the asphalt unless coated real well, but will still stain things. One advantage, it can be coated with a sealer and made to look like new.

Heavy trucks,concrete trucks, dump trucks, large propane trucks, are not recommended. And if they drive off of the edge, it can bust the asphalt. You can't use a floor jack on it in summer, and even in cool weather for that matter as it will leave dents. Absolutely no jackstands unless you have a good thick support board under them. Asphalt is HOT. If you have asphalt near a porch or someplace where you sit in the summer, you will notice a difference in temperature vs. concrete in the same area.

If you are a person who does a lot of work on a vehicle in a driveway, you need a concrete pad for a stable work area.

Concrete, when done correctly will outlast asphalt by years if not decades.

Cost.....Concrete will cost you 4-5 times the amount over asphalt, and depending on location, could easily double that to 8-10 times the amount over the cost of asphalt.

Edging....if you start out with a nice straight edge on your asphalt, after a few years you will lose that straight edge. The reason being is that asphalt is tapered down on the edges, and grass and weeds are some tough stuff. It will slowly break the edge down little by little over the years. Not much, but enough that you do not have a nice crisp line. And a lot of people likes that nice crisp line. With concrete, you have full thickness all the way through the edges, and if you use an edger periodically, you will always have that crisp edge.

So location plays a very huge part in the difference between the two. Hot weather plays a huge difference in whether you want to work on it or concrete when it is full sun, 95 degrees out. Cost also is a very huge factor in determining your choice.

And there are other alternatives to both asphalt or concrete. You can get gravel, you can get tar and chipped which is a cross between asphalt and gravel, you can get pavers, you can get the concrete or plastic grids to drive on and have grass planted but the grids prevent grass damage.

There are a lot of options, and what may suit one person, may not suit the next person. Or it may not even suit the neighborhood. If you are living in a $500,000 fancy brick home in an upscale neighborhood, asphalt may look out of place, and gravel would really make it look like **** altogether.

So look around, see what others have in your area, look at your property, and decide what would suit it best to be both functional, but to also add to the aesthetics of the property. Curb appeal goes a long, long, way when others drive by, or if you are potentially going to sell it later.

Thanks Kevin. You have some good points here RE CONCRETE. Let me look at the HOA stuff a bit closer.
 

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Concrete and asphalt were dollar for dollar when I had a 105x60 foot parking area poured at my business
 
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Re: Asphalt or Concrete

We had a asphalt driveway put in 3 months ago. $3800 for asphalt and just overt 12k for concrete. I think concrete is better but I'd rather save the money for other stuff
 

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If ease of snow removal is your highest priority then asphalt is the way to go. Concrete is better as far as just about everything else is concerned.
 
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Thanks Kevin. You have some good points here RE CONCRETE. Let me look at the HOA stuff a bit closer.

Sort of odd ...but we have both in the neighborhood in general, but all houses on our street have asphalt. Concrete is hit or miss on some house located on adjacent streets. ......but a couple years ago I saw Black Concrete being poured at the MLK Memorial in DC so maybe Black Concrete would be a good way to disguise it.
Anyway... HOA says to put in an application
 

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Ken,
I think its mainly a matter of appearance. I was strictly concrete when I was young. At our first house we put in a 12' x 35' concrete drive, around 1975 and its still there as far as I know. When I bought my present house in 1978 I didn't have a choice, the builder was using asphalt so that's what we got. My driveway is about 18' wide by about 50' long. After about 20 years (1999 to be exact) the asphalt closest to the apron at the street started falling apart, probably the first 12 - 15 ft. The section up closer to the house looked almost new. So I decided to replace it all with concrete. Well when we started tearing up the asphalt we found that the thickness started out at about 3 inches up at the garage but it almost looked like they started to run out of material and the last 12-15 ft were not much more than an inch thick. That's the part that fell apart. I think if they had done the entire drive at 3 inches it would still be there and looking good today.

Pros and cons ???

I actually think the asphalt looked a little nicer, blended in so to say. The concrete stands out for sure.

The asphalt really was no maintenance. I sealed it once in the 20 years it was there and personally do not think it made any difference.

The concrete shows every little oil drip, sticks out like a sore thumb. My cars are all pretty dry but you cant control visitors. A drip here and there was really not noticeable on the asphalt.

The asphalt was HOT :) And like ape said, the sun took care of snow removal for all practical purposes. You are pretty close to me so the weather is about the same.

The concrete is cool and I like going barefoot in the summer when I am washing cars etc.

My driveway is a also slight slope and I do not work on it so I cant comment on that part.

Just wanted to comment on the asphalt "maintenance" I have a nephew who has an asphalt sealing and paving business and he basically told me that other than sealing it one time when it is a few years old, you are just wasting your time. This is assuming that it is done properly the first time. This is someone who does is for a living so that should say something. I pretty much found this to be the case with mine when it was asphalt. I don't think sealing it had anything to do with its life. The part that was installed properly lasted 20 years looking almost like new.

Hope this helps :)
 

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NOW....the main reason that we went from perfectly good concrete to asphalt.....in the winter, the sun does not hit the front of the house very much. And the fact that when our road was redone, it made the road higher than the driveway. If we would get days in the winter that the snow would possibly melt some, it would refreeze, and we would end up with ice, both at the garage door,plus at the road. Our mailbox is across the road, so we would have to walk on ice. One year the ice was over 3" thick for most of the winter.

Why not toss a couple bags of black concrete coloring into the mix, get you some nice black concrete. Neighbor a few doors down has black concrete, it's blacker than the road is.

Go concrete. But around here in town/city I'm not sure I have EVER seen asphalt as a driveway. Seems more of a out in the country thing.
 

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Here in Central FL the quotes I got were very similar between the two, 450 ft x 10ft wide was within 10-15%. No brainer for concrete.
 

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Ken- I would say it depends on your winters. If you get any snow and have to plow, concrete usually gets scraped up, even with a softer plow edge. Also don't use any salts, even ice melter that claim's to be concrete safe will destroy your driveway. If you have milder winters i would say concrete. Concrete will last longer, and can be stamped or cut, stained or colored to look like about anything you could want. A plus on the asphalt side is you can topcoat it and it looks brand new every time.
 
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