ATF for air tools

[shurik06_83]

the shop i work at guys use atf in their air tools , I use Ir oil and the grease that comes in a kit . my tools are newish and work well ,their tools are old and still work well some guys never lube their tools until they act up ,then they shoot some atf and back to work

 

[mrbreezeet1]

l've used it a few times, never a steady diet.

 

[shurik06_83]

well a few days ago i found an old mac air ratchet rolling around a junk pile head was stuck soaked the head in some oil it was back to life shot a bunch atf inside put a fitting on her and gave it some air works as good as new . when the head was stuck if u gave it some air it would hiss but wouldn't turn after oil and atf she spooled right up and spewd out a ton of black junk . now it works really nice

 

[Chadwilliam1]

I oil my tools every time I get them out and if there are getting a lot of use I give it some more. I grease my IR impacts at home but at work I don't have a grease gun yet.

guys I work with never oil their tools, I have never seen anybody use ATF but they use kroil.

 

[platypus20]

I have some big buck Nitto Kohki air tools and they clearly state not to run ATF, as it will ruin the tool. I would assume that ATF is better than nothing, but the proper air oil is cheap.

 

[Big-Foot]

I've used ATF for many years in my pneumatics with no ill effects at all.. Matter of fact, I think my 30 year old CP 1/2" unit hits as hard today as it ever has.

That said, someone gave me a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil. Looks like ATF to me and I put in 5-6 drops a day into my tools and free spin them for a few seconds then go to work.

 

[infinite97]

I run marvel mystery air tool oil in my tools. Drives me crazy when I see other techs in the shop using company-supplied air tools and not oiling them prior to use.

 

[Altec]

ATF is all I use.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

If you are only running air tools put an in-line oiler.

 

[jjjrmx5]

If you are only running air tools put an in-line oiler.

Not an option if using the same air line for paint work, glue sprayers or blowers.

Only air-tool oil in my stuff.

I can run ATF in my engine or 30w in my ****** if only going a mile, but that certainly does not make it the right lube for the job.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

Not an option if using the same air line for paint work, glue sprayers or blowers.

Only air-tool oil in my stuff.

I can run ATF in my engine or 30w in my ****** if only going a mile, but that certainly does not make it the right lube for the job.

Thats is why I said if you are only running air tools.

You can add it right at the coupling before your hose.

 

[RECox286]

Here's my 2 scents:

I have used nothing but Mystery Air tool Oil, and ATF for all my tools. No sad faces

in my shop due to tools that don't work. I wouldn't doubt that Mystery comes out of

the same spigot as Ford ATF ! (Some of my pneumatics are 30-35 yo and still

going strong.)

Uncle Bob

 

[otis66]

When I run out of air tool oil I will use ATF.

 

[1967lemans]

I use marvel air tool oil. If im out then its marvel mystery oil, atf, or the left over oil in my oil can. 5w30 usually. So far no problems.

while MMO may be red like atf, its far from it. Its made up of mostly pale oil and mineral spirits. with a little boron, phosporous, para-Dichlorobenzene, ortho-Dichlorobenzene and oil of wintergreen thrown in the mix. The viscosity of Marvel would be in the SAE 10W range. IIRC the Marvel Air Tool Oil does not have the oil of wintergreen in it.

 

[rlitman]

IIRC the Marvel Air Tool Oil does not have the oil of wintergreen in it.

According to Marvel's website, their air tool oil is exactly the same formulation as their regular oil, with the addition of an anti-corrosion agent.

 

[csargents1546]

As cheap as air tool oil is, why risk damaging expensive air tools. I just don't take the chance.

 

[darkk]

Marvel mystery Oil in everything when it needs it.

 

[Muffduster]

Amflo air tool oil for me. Got it at HF of all places.

 

[casetractorfarmer]

I use this cheap works good and 16 ounces


http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hard...splay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051

 

[chris142]

Drives me crazy when I see other techs in the shop using company-supplied air tools and not oiling them prior to use.

A shop that supplies air tools?!

 

[thejudges69]

Not an option if using the same air line for paint work, glue sprayers or blowers.

Only air-tool oil in my stuff.

I can run ATF in my engine or 30w in my ****** if only going a mile, but that certainly does not make it the right lube for the job.

I actually think the viscosity level on the ATF maybe a little higher on ATF the air tool oil. Air tool oil is like thick water, besides the ATF will help to keep the gun clean inside since it is a detergant oil. I personally use air tool oil but don't see the harm in using ATF.

tomato-tom-a-to ya know, to each there own

Oh and I do run ATF in my engine, 10 gallons of 15W-40 and 2 quarts of ATF, then I fill my fuel filters with ATF also. again a detergant oil It helps to keep the gunk level down and the injectors flowing good.

 

[kald]

I actually think the viscosity level on the ATF maybe a little higher on ATF the air tool oil. Air tool oil is like thick water, besides the ATF will help to keep the gun clean inside since it is a detergant oil. I personally use air tool oil but don't see the harm in using ATF.

tomato-tom-a-to ya know, to each there own

Oh and I do run ATF in my engine, 10 gallons of 15W-40 and 2 quarts of ATF, then I fill my fuel filters with ATF also. again a detergant oil It helps to keep the gunk level down and the injectors flowing good.

Your 15w40 has much more detergent(calcium) and more wear additives (Zinc & Phos) than atf. Your oil is keeping the gunk level down in that diesel, not the 5% mix of atf.

 

[thejudges69]

I was basically making a point, I've had this same discussion numerous times with numerous people, not to be ignorant but I'd rather not have it again regarding oil.

I think any type of engine oil additives are junk and a joke. I'll stick with my mix and know its pure oil from chevron.

 

[kald]

It's your engine! And an extremely expensive one at that, good luck.

 

[thejudges69]

1.3 million miles I think were doing good, I'll keep it up. dropped number 5 rod and main last summer and they looked as good as when they were put in at 882,000

trust me the least of my concerns is the ATF that is in my engine. all our detroits have run well over a million without a hiccup on the same diet each

 

[SiGmA_X]

Your 15w40 has much more detergent(calcium) and more wear additives (Zinc & Phos) than atf. Your oil is keeping the gunk level down in that diesel, not the 5% mix of atf.

Yep.


Regarding air tools, my old boss has ran ATF since the 80s in the daily used tools at the shop, no issues at all. Same with my old coworker. I run craftsman air oil at my shop tho, seems like a no brainer. Easier to squirt in too.

1.3 million miles I think were doing good, I'll keep it up. dropped number 5 rod and main last summer and they looked as good as when they were put in at 882,000

trust me the least of my concerns is the ATF that is in my engine. all our detroits have run well over a million without a hiccup on the same diet each

Lost some bearings yet they still looked as good as they did over 400k ago? That doesn't compute.

 

[kald]

I state this for my last post on the issue. You are diluting your oil's additive package by 5%! Think how much longer they would last if you were not doing this. Again, I wish you good luck and have a nice evening!

 

[thejudges69]

my last post as well. we've been doing the same diet in all our engine for 30 plus years and never an issue related to.

Straight from chevron and Detroit Diesel. there is no physical evidence that ATF with help or hurt any part of a diesel engine including injectors. basically if it works for you then don't change it.

lastly, the first 60 series was overhauled at 1.2 million miles all original 2nd owner of the truck, bearings were mic'd to be the same thickness as new ones. Truck will tun 30K on an oil change, (this was by request of Chevron we go to 30K) we normally change at 20, but the truck will never use a drop. again potato....poe-tato

Mine was overhauled at 882,000 because my truck sat in an impound yard for 7-8 years and the 3 owner of the truck didn't care what he put in it for oil it was pretty gummed up when I got it and used a little more oil then I'd like it to.

I really didn't want to get into this because its to each there own, so lets get the thread back on track.

 

[SiGmA_X]

Id love to see a comparison between an all oil and a mixed engine, over 1mil-mi.