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Athol 614 1/2 Vise - can anyone help me?

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Hey everyone I recently picked up an Athol 614 1/2 Vise and I've currently got it torn down to rebuild so I can put it into use. Does anyone out there have Athol main screw/spindle they want to sell? Half my threads are good while the other half are pretty corroded. Let me know! Thanks in advance!
 
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If it's just a little rust, wire brush it off, and use it. I've even carefully used a needle file to clean up marred or nasty acme threads.

If it's rusted half the threads away, I hope you are able to find a new one.


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You could say it works (for it still threads) but I'm just not crazy about the half-missing threads.

As on some Reed vises, are there other Athol vises that share the same main screw/spindle? Surely, someone else has been down this road before...
 

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We see this sort of thing come up here regularly, and I get a couple of e-mails a week through my website with folks asking if I know where to find replacement parts.

The reality is, it's going to take some luck to find a replacement for almost any vintage vise. They didn't make and stock spare parts the way they do for something like a car, so the supply was never really there. I talked to a Reed collector who said he called Reed up years ago, and bought every single vintage spare part they had on hand...he's still got all of them.

You'll probably have to find a donor vise that's in poor shape, or is damaged, but keep in mind, there are other people out there buying vises for parts as a hobby/business, so it will still take some luck.

There are one or two people on eBay who seem to sell a lot of parts from broken vises, so that's worth a look.

There's a complete 614 1/2 near Lansing you might see if the seller would ship, but by the time you get it, you'll probably have more in the parts than you do the original vise.

https://lansing.craigslist.org/atq/d/atholbench-vise/6213439083.html
 

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You could say it works (for it still threads) but I'm just not crazy about the half-missing threads.

As on some Reed vises, are there other Athol vises that share the same main screw/spindle? Surely, someone else has been down this road before...

Sadly, the days in which you could just order replacement parts from the factory are long gone.....by 40-odd years, or so........

However, if the threads in the main nut are still good, and you have a friend who does turning work, its not as bad a job as you might think to simply make a new main screw for your vise.

The Athol make uses a 'buttress' thread configuration, which is as easily done by single-point threading, as is any other thread-form. You (or your turner) can simply use an undamaged portion of the original screw as an improvised gage for the threading tool, and simply take pass after pass, til the new screw fits the nut freely.

One does need the rigidity of a 'medium heavy' lathe for this work, of the Hendey, Monarch, or Lodge&Shipley class. A 10" South Bend. or similar, needn't apply.

I've done a few vise screws this way, one time and another, in the more common square and Acme threads. It is a somewhat tedious job, to be sure.

It helps to have the bar stock in a heavy pattern 4-jaw, and initially turn only the threaded portion to diameter for the thread work, then bring the rest of the screw length to diameter after the threads are done, to maintain as much rigidity in the setup as might be.

(and, no, I'll not take the job, myself, I get to be 'retired' these days.....it should be easy enough to find someone here who does turning, if one asks nicely)

cheers

Carla
 
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First thing to do is to make sure you actually use that section of the screw when using the vise. Some vises have way more thread than is actually used in normal use of the vise, and because it's not going into the nut, often rusts because of a lack of oil or grease. May not be the case with yours, but you might want to check.
 

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Here's another place where location is useful. You may be just around the corner from some one who is willing to work with you making a new screw. Like Carla said a simple turning project if odd thread but maybe even simpler if it is a standard Acme thread that you could buy. Try your best to identify what thread it is, form, size , and pitch.

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Machine shop time will run $100./hour or more, and that's not a 5 minute job.
Filing those will do nothing to help the situation. Rough threads will ruin the nut in no time.
Not likely to find a donor vise either. If a vise has been abused enough to break a main casting, the screw/nut are likely shot also.

Buy a another good vise, and get it over with.
 
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Good News! My search for a 614 1/2 spindle with 1:5 threads is complete! Special thanks to the garage member who helped me out!!!
 
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