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b$d matrix vs craftsman bolton

ripit1

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I made a big post but lost it so i I'll try and summarize. I know they are not high end but they have their place. I thought bolton and matrix were the same. They are not. They are compatible but different. I have the 20v matrix and just got the craftsman. The motor area of the housing is larger but shorter on the bolton. Overall, its like the plastic molds were similar but changed on the parts of the housing. The sears site says up to 35% more power., More power than what, an older version? The sears has a steel chuck where the b&d has a plastic steel one. The sears has an led and the b&d doesn't.

I Bought the second drill to use as an emergency car kit in the trunk (won't break lug nuts according to reviews but works fine for smaller. I got the craftsman drill with a deal that included the inflator (not available from black and decker in the US ). I have the b&d impact with 1/4 inch hex shank, but just realized the sears one has a 3/8 square shank.

The craftsman runs slower with the same attachments (which might be good with the impact if it has that claimed 35% more power/torque?

I'm just wondering if anyone has compared tools.

As far as they have their place, I have had high end tools when I was younger. One was a couple of hundred dollar black and decker drill that was identical to a dewalt, around the time they bought them. The batteries lasted years and it had enough torque to tear out of my hands if I didn't have a good grip. My first drill was a cheap black and decker basic when I was a teenager decades ago, and you could stall that thing all day and not bur up the motor and it was very powerful for a cheap small drill.

I bought a black and decker combo cheap on black friday a few years back (circular saw, drill etc). I could write novels on how pathetic these tools were. They are the worst tools I have ever used in my life. i later bought a porter cable kit (owned by black and decker), and for around the house or hobby fix it up stuff, they are great (not professional level but they work well).

I like the matrix because hey are a nice fit to teach my young children to use power tools. They seem like a great addition to the trunk as an emergency kit. I have bigger, more powerful tools including the porter cable kit, but sometimes these things are handy.

Just another story. I have many tools (many toolboxes full). I had some proto tools (Decent budget tools in the day).I ordered a proto socket set surprisingly cheap. I had an adjustable wrench. It was getting a little sloppy after years of use and had a life time warranty so I figured I would exchange it (not knowing stanley bought proto). I was like a little child, who was told he would get a new piece of candy if I gave mine up. So I gave up my candy, and got an apple...

Bloated, thick, sloppy craftsman ****....I was expecting a replacement proto wrench, and got one, but is was of craftsman quality(triple the thickness and uses cheap steel).
for the price,
I understand the limitations on the matrix/bolton system.
for the price it works fine. I have bigger tools but sometimes this one is handy, its great to teach kids how to use power tools (I know thier are much better systems, but none at this price if you buy on sale, get deals).
 
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ripit1

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Here is the craftsman one

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-bolt...p-00946133000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

one version of the black and decker

http://www.blackanddecker.com/en-US...matrix-20v-max-lithium-drilldriver/bdcdmt120c

and another version of the black and decker

http://www.blackanddecker.com/en-US.../matrix-20v-max-lithium-drilldriver/bdcdmt120

Mine is the second black and decker. The 2 black and decker look very similar beyond color but the craftsman is different. I have not used the craftsman much but so far have not perceived any significant amount of additional power over the black and decker. You can hear a difference in speed though even though they are rated the same. The black and decker has a 26wh battery and the craftsman has a 30 wh battery.

I'll see if I can get some pics. Has any one else noticed any differences between any of the accessories or drills beyond what I have found?
 

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The Bolt-On attachments are better constructed than the B&D Matrix versions but the B&Ds seem to have a touch more power despite the claims made by Cman. The battery life though is completely in Cman's favor - can charge them up in about 45 minutes, takes about 75 minutes for the B&D. I believe both have a corded version but I have never known anyone to own one.
 
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It's worthy to note that Craftsman has offered two different models. The first one retailed for $119, and I believe had a 1/2" chuck whereas the one posted only has a 3/8" chuck.
 
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Top left is the black & decker 0-800 rpm that came with the b&d 20v drill. Top right is the 0-800 from the craftsman 20v. Middle left is the b&d 0-1500 from the corded b&d drill. Middle right is the craftsman 3/8" square drive impact. I didn't even know this existed until a couple of days ago. I wonder if it comes closer to the claimed 1300 in lbs. I have heard some think a lot of power is lost in flex on the 1/4" hex shank b&d model not to mention additional slop of an adapter. The last is the b&d 1/4" hex impact. next pic is of course the b&d and craftsman 20v drills.

I'm kind of curious if the 1/2" model 20v is any more powerful? Probably not. The corded drill is rated about the same as the 20v (as far as I have seen anyway) so perhaps they limit the to what the accessories are designed for.
 

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I know that this is my first post and that I am reviving a thread from a year ago, but I was looking for info on where to get a replacement motor for these multi-tools and stumbled upon this. I figured my input may help someone one day.

I've been using these along with many of the attachments for over a year now, they have both quit on me and lasted longer than they should have. On the Craftsman, the leads were broken off where they meet the fins that contact the battery. I assume that dropping the drill repeatedly caused this. On the Black+Decker, the motor quit after using it all day to cut hardi-backer board with the trim saw and using the impact to screw the backer board to studs before tiling for my tub/shower. It went through 5 batteries and 2 square drill bits. I put the motor from the Craftsman into the Black+Decker and I'm back to work. Now I'm looking for another motor. Here are the comparison pictures of the insides of them, slightly different.

 
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