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karlhungus

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After spending the first 30ish years of my life in barracks/apartments, I found myself in a brand new starter home with much to learn about home improvements. Sprinklers, light fixtures, shelving, tile... who knew there was so much to know? After a few small satisfying projects, I started to get into the research, the accumulation of tools and the labor of DIY. It was in that time frame that I stumbled across this website, and I've been poking around off and on ever since. For various reasons, the wife and I knew our housing situation was temporary, so I was reluctant to undertake projects that wouldn't have a good return on investment or would be overly personalized to my tastes. Fast forward a few years, and we bought a home that hopefully we will occupy for a long time.
View media item 52944We have been chipping away at the to-do list as funds and motivation allow. Long term I would like to have all car stuff in the garage, all lawn stuff in the shed, and all shop/woodworking stuff in the basement. The only problem with that plan is there is no shed. I thought the idea of building my own shed sounded fun and possibly cheaper than a Tuff-Shed (I was mistaken). After a little bit of research I found a set of plans I liked; the Family Handyman magazine "Dream Shed". Part of the appeal was at 120 sq ft there is no requirement for a permit. In hindsight I wouldn't have worried about that aspect so much.
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The shed will go on the left side of the picture at the back of the lot. Our property is pie shaped with tight access in the front. Getting vehicles back there wasn't in the cards and getting other toys (motorcycles/snowmobiles) while possible would be a hassle. With that in mind I decided a shed that freed the garage of some clutter would suit my needs.
While discussing my plans with my father (a retired engineer who has built houses and garages) he encouraged me to scrap the 6x6x12s that the shed was supposed to sit atop and build a proper foundation. His thinking, which eventually swayed me, was that he was almost 70 and wanted to pass some of his skills along to me while he was still physically capable. Although overkill and more expensive, I would have acquired some skills and have a nice finished product.
View media item 52876Rented this mini excavator for the job. I had to pay for delivery as they won't let you tow it with anything less than a 3/4 ton. It was a lot of fun to use.
View media item 52880Because of the lousy access, I had to take the mini excavator though the open space. A few hours into the job, headphones in, two park rangers snapped me out of my trance. Traversing the open space wasn't permitted and somebody had turned me in. They determined I had not done any damage and basically told me to carry on. Very cool guys.
View media item 52878View media item 52952Dug a little too deep, had to add and compact the bottom of the trench.
View media item 52941I put batter boards up prior to digging, only to destroy them with the mini-excavator. I redid them and used them and a plumb bob for lay out. When the sun went down I checked my work with a tile laser.
View media item 52883Igor, the Vizsla
View media item 52936I was concerned that the gap under my forms was too tall and concrete would ****** out the bottom so I stapled 6mil plastic to the forms. I wasn't sure if it would hold the weight but I worked well. (I suspended the rebar later)
View media item 52933Made a chute to get concrete into the hole.
View media item 52929I was pretty worried as this was my first concrete pour so I rented a buggy. Worked well, but the only delivery I could schedule without undue delay was 6AM. The driver showed at 5:50, and I felt bad firing that thing up so early in the suburbs.
View media item 52925Finished product
View media item 52923Took a delivery of block.
View media item 52928The tight access I mentioned.
View media item 52911My dad showed me how to get started and the turned me free. I tried to do storey poles like I saw in a book, but in practice did not work for me.
View media item 52910Wife has been a huge help.
View media item 52907Finished block.
View media item 52903Base layer of stucco. I think most stucco guys could do a better job blindfolded. Seriously.
View media item 52906Masonry is hard work. Respect to anyone who does it for a living.
View media item 52895Backfilling the trench. That thing got away from me in a turn and smashed the bejesus out of my foot. Somehow all I got was a minor bruise.
View media item 52896Hopefully I'm done renting expensive equipment. Even though it looks like a toy it was very capable.
View media item 52892Screeding pea gravel for the base.
View media item 52885Ready for concrete.
View media item 52955Decided against renting the concrete buggy again. It was a workout, but manageable.
View media item 52956After weeks of clear weather, a Colorado style storm was threatening my flat work. I fashioned a pup tent out of the screen boards and some 6mil plastic.
Thats as far as I've gotten, the goal is to be buttoned up before the snow starts. I'm hopeful that all the muddy, heavy work is behind me and I can move on to learning about framing, roofing and the like.
 
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firecracker

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Wow that is some shed build :shocking: engineers tend to go overkill.:thumbup: you could have had a storage space under the floor :beer: can't wait for more.
 

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Nice shed build but holy hell that is way way way overkill man. Can I ask why you built a 4 fooot deep foundation for a shed ? I know boulder county gets carried away but thats absurd !
 

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Top shelf work there,very nice. Thank you for your service. Too bad you have a neighborhood monitor rat nearby.
 

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Karl: that is really over the top for a smallish shed build, but your Dad was right because now you can build a huge shop or your next home with that knowledge.

before the rains get too bad you might want to put down some rock for the base of a path that i'm assuming you are going to make. or if you want to make a nice cement sidewalk i used 1 x 6 Trex and poured mine 5 inches thick with some curves. i put my rebar or scrap steel about in the middle of my sidewalks and knock on wood no cracks after 3 years now.

best of luck and your small shed might be in the top 10 for construction quality that I've seen and i was a Realtor for 30 years in a past life.
 

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I was thinking about the neighborhood rat when you mentioned the 7:00 AM concrete delivery. I sure hope his bedroom window was the closest.
 
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karlhungus

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Thanks to all for the positive feedback. Drivesitfar, I'm still unsure about how I want to reconfigure my backyard, but I like your idea of incorporating a decorative path to shed. With the pace of progress so far, that will most likely have to wait until next spring.
View media item 53675Finished slab. Some minor mistakes, but overall I'm pleased.
View media item 53680Because I didn't fill all of the concrete blocks, I went with a pressure treated 2x8 bottom plate to cover the holes. I used sill sealer between the masonry and wood. It came in 5.5" width necessitating multiple strips under one sill plate. Stapling it to bottom plate ending up working well for us.
View media item 53682My father in law came over for several days to help. He works clean and precise, has great ideas without taking over, and labors like a mule. Thanks Kevin!
View media item 53683The first wall we built on site.
View media item 53685It was too crowded to use the pad after the first wall so we moved to my driveway (flat and out of the dirt)
View media item 53691View media item 53697Put temp supports on the walls with towels under them to move to the backyard. I would have preferred to put the sheathing on first but it would have been too heavy.
View media item 53689After I got confused by my own layout lines and had to dig out a bunch of 16d nails, I made window substructures and then placed them within the frame. Easier for this rookie.
View media item 53700View media item 53704View media item 53706It caught my eye that the overhangs were sagging a bit. A straight edge confirmed this. I spent a lot of time pulling out the nails, adjusting, clamping and measuring. I ended up putting a shim at the apex end of the gable to even everything out. I returned my 1/2 cdx plywood and went looking for 5/8 advantech that I read a lot of good things about (strong but light enough for me to handle solo). It is very hard to come by in Colorado so I settled for 5/8 cdx.
View media item 53709In my research on roof sheathing I realized I had forgotten to leave a small gap for expansion and contraction of the wood on the wall sheathing. Saw some horror stories with buckled siding. I used an occilating tool to open things up a little.
View media item 53713Tyvek
View media item 53711This bed extender is pretty handy, it folds up when not in use and can get unwieldy stuff home safe.
View media item 53724Inside shot.
View media item 53727Painting trim.
View media item 53728Colorado sunset. The scaffolding in the foreground is much better than the stepladder I had been using. Rents for 50$ a week.
Thats my progress to this point. Looking to do trim, roofing, siding then painting over the course of the next month or so.
Thanks for reading!
 
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karlhungus

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Thanks to all for taking time to comment. Glad to see so much international participation.
The picture count on my phone went down dramatically toward the beginning of October as I started doing math on work remaining, my tendency to get about half of what I planned done on any particular weekend, and the quickly approaching winter. To borrow an aviation term, "get-there-itis" is starting to set in. Here's where I'm at.
View media item 54345Asphalt shingles, LP smartsiding and a ridge vent.
View media item 54335Site built windows. Constructed from a Menards barn sash, 1x4 and trim. I made the top rail overhang by an inch for pleasing aesthetics, but it sure slows down cutting the siding.
View media item 54348The almost finished doors.
View media item 54338Hardie Lap siding and beadboard soffit material.
View media item 54347Ouch, it was tough to shell out so much for single use tools. I went name brand thinking I could recoup some of my investment on craigslist. The amazon recommended shears did not live up to the hype for me, ok to lousy cut quality and the scraps get stepped on an make a mess. The siding gauges were fantastic and I would recommend buying them even if you have and assistant.
View media item 54339Early on I went over to my Dad's house to discuss the plan and make a simplistic CAD drawing. We didn't get very far before we got into a disagreement over how high the shed should sit. He was pushing exposed concrete and sloping ground and I wanted what was in the pictures of the Family Handyman magazine (flat ground with treated 2x8 skirt touching the dirt) Although I thought it would look a little "off," eventually I did most of what he recommended, the bottom of the siding is 10 inches above original ground level. Yesterday and today we had our first major rain since the project began, and looking at the muddy/watery mess out there I'm glad I listened.
 
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karlhungus

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nice looking building.....love the windows and doors!

Do you have any more pictures of the doors? Plans? It is something I want to do also.

The plans for everything are available for free on the Family Handyman website. They are very through and keep things pretty simple. I I modified mine to suit my needs (foundation, poured cement floor, increased the roof pitch and different siding) The doors are just pieces of 1x6 and a barn sash from Menards glued and screwed together.
 

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Karl: that is one of the nicest small sheds i've seen. you were wise following Dad's idea of keeping the siding up off the ground. that shed will last for years and if it was mine 20 years ago my kids would be using it as a fort, camp, dollhouse. nice work and now i bet you could probably build a full size garage if you wanted to.

more pictures as you get time to add some and ask questions if you have any and we'll try to help if we can if Dad doesn't have the answer.


cheers
 

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You built the finest shed that I have seen. Your dad steered you in the correct direction.
What is your next project going to be.
 

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Very nice work, especially the doors.
Curious what necessitated the massively-built foundation for the shed? Is frost-heaving much of an issue where you are? Are home foundations like that depth required where you are?

/CA slab man, I know nothing of building for severe cold (anything below 48F)
 

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This is the best shed I have seen. You are quite the craftsman who loves detail. Great job!
 
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karlhungus

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Very nice work, especially the doors.
Curious what necessitated the massively-built foundation for the shed? Is frost-heaving much of an issue where you are? Are home foundations like that depth required where you are?

/CA slab man, I know nothing of building for severe cold (anything below 48F)

The foundation is overkill to be sure. My Dad encouraged me to do it for practice, in the event I want to attempt something on a grander scale some day. He's getting older and might not be up to teaching me in a few years. It exposed me to excavating, using a transit, making a drawing, doing block, pouring concrete, the whole gamut. Working with block is nice because it can be done piecemeal without any major equipment. I looked over some stuff on the county website and basically complied with code (I think) but didn't get a permit because at 120sq ft there isn't a requirement. I set the depth so the bottom of the footing is 36" below final grade.
 
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karlhungus

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To all who have commented, thanks for the kind words, it's appreciated. It's a reminder to me that I should pipe up more when I see things I like.
 

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Karl: it's easy to say good words about your nice looking and very well built shed. just curious since you did all the labor what has the materials cost you so far and the machine rentals?

if you want to build a nicer wider sidewalk type access to your shed here's some pictures of some sidewalks i built in my smaller front yard. i think i mentioned this before that i used Trex composite 1 x 6 inch decking so i could pour them 5 inches thick and put a little curve in them. if you want to make the curves over 30 degrees you will need to do so in stages but it can be done. i did a 90 degree one that took me about 4 days to gradually bend the trex without breaking it (broke 2 before finally made it work).

good luck and again great job. :thumbup:
 

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Incredible shed! I love the detail and quality you put into. You put a lot of work into that, especially the foundation, but as you said, you gained knowledge and experience. Well worth it in the end!
 
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