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Backyard Wood and Design Shop

sio

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Hello World!

I have stared at this empty page long enough. I would say that starting this journal is a New Year's resolution but it isn't quite like that. Sure, the timing seems to line up as my first post will be a few days after the new year but this project and lifestyle change has been a long time coming. Bear with me for the long winded first post.

My name is Tobin Sio.

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I've been a long time lurker here on the Garage Journal forum but have never once made a post. I've wasted many hours over the past few years as a member looking through and studying so many amazing projects from various members. I feel very humble for the opportunity to start my own journey here. These projects have inspired me greatly!

I have always been an avid DIYer ever since I built/refurbished my first pair of speakers when I discovered Parts Express in 9th grade. I had been taking apart clock radios and ole stereo equipment for as long as I can remember. The various woodworking, electrical, and problem solving skills greatly influenced my career choices and have lead me to this moment. I work in the corporate Audio/Visual field as a Technical Director and Vectorworks CAD engineer which plays into my hands approach to most things I do. For the past 11 years I worked for various large corporations but was never fully satisfied with the corporate slog. Luckily my wife got a new job opportunity in a new city which gave me an "out" and an "in" to the world of a Freelance technician. I have always been a lover of the world of furniture and lighting design and I have built a few pieces over the years as I built out a small wood-shop in our old basement. The move has now given me an opportunity to build myself a new space to really pursue my passion further! Enough reading, let's see some pics!

We moved in late 2017 into a classic old Tudor built in 1932


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The original garage/horse shed had been torn down a few months before the sale by the previous owner as the building was structurally unsafe and in danger of falling down. With the generous lot size (85' x 150') and and "almost" clean slate of a back yard I laid out the site plan for a 24' x 30' shop with a classic look that will fit into the feel of the old neighborhood.

Site Plan & View

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The scale in those prints are tough as it's sized for a 36" x 48" ARCH E print but you get the idea. We had the lot surveyed to make sure we knew our property lines and I applied for a building permit.

Permit Issued!


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I didn't grab many photos of the site before the build but here is one from move in day:

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I had the movers bring their truck through the alley to unload the woodworking machinery directly into the temporary storage pod as you see here. You can also make out a pad on the far corner of our property that was left from the original garage. I plan on utilizing most of it since it's in good shape as a parking pad/storage behind the shop.

That will sum up the intro to this build. As of the posting of this we are fairly along in the project by almost 2 months and I look forward to sharing the build in the posts to follow. We've had quite a few ups and downs along the past couple months as this has been quite a learning experience for me!

Cheers,

Tobin
 
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oldironfarmer

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Welcome! You only thought you were wasting time before you started posting.:lol_hitti

Did you see the old carriage house? My bet (through total ignorance) is that it was in good shape but the realtor and or the P.O. thought the house would sell better without it. A good slab says a lot.

Regardless, you didn't have to make the decision to renovate or replace so that's history. Looking forward to your posts!

Oh, and in reading through you post, I thought at first that you said you had built and rebuilt sneakers. Had to reread...

Beautiful house, by the way. :thumbup:
 
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sio

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Thanks Andy! Truth be told just a few of those hours were spent culling through your project as well. From what a neighbor told me is that the bottom few inches of the walls were heavily rotted from years of neglect and couldn't be saved. It does appear that the slab was poured more recently due to the fact that it was poured around the 2x4 framing (unless that was a common practice back then?). Either way they saved me a lot of demo work! Thanks for the kind words.

Tobin
 

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This looks pretty dang interesting! Just built a shop to do the same thing! Subscribed to see what happens here! What kind of woodworking machinery do you have?
 

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Subscribed. Can't wait to see your build. Love the house by the way.

Bret
 
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sio

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This looks pretty dang interesting! Just built a shop to do the same thing! Subscribed to see what happens here! What kind of woodworking machinery do you have?

Congrats! I am absolutely itching to make saw dust again. It has been since early July since I have built anything. I wish you well on your quest! Here's a quick list:

Powermatic 65 Table Saw
DeWalt 14" GA RAS
80s Era Craftsman 10" RAS
Jet 6" Jointer
Delta 12" "lunchbox" planer
Powermatic Model 23 Shaper
Craftsman 12" Band Saw
Delta 12" Disk Sander
Montgomery Ward Scroll Saw
Various Hand tools etc.

Here's a few photos of my old shop all nice and clean from the listing of our old house. I'm going to do a proper post about it soon but you get the idea of the space I was working with!

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Tobin
 
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Work is moving forward quickly on the shop so lets try and bring y'all a little closer to the current shop state!

I mentioned that part of my profession involves a fair amount of CAD work using a program called Vectorworks. It's not as common in the manufacturing sectors as say AutoCAD or Solidworks, but in the Entertainment and/or Architectural industries, it is closer to an Industry standard. The program has various modules and while I rarely use the Architectural tools for Entertainment show design, they have proved handy on this project as I have produced all of the drawings to be built.

The shop itself occupies the rough foot print of an old carriage house. While the structure was torn down before we purchased the house, they left a nice pad in the far Northwest corner of the lot. Instead of tearing it up, I shifted the location off the Western property line to use that pad in the future.

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I drew the shop as 24' x 30' interior dimensions. I know now that usually that refers to the exterior dimension. More to come on that! Structurally I went with 9' high walls with 2' x 6' framing 16" OC. I wanted the extra depth so I could get in a higher R value and for more sound deadening since we're located in an urban residential neighborhood. I also went with a scissor truss system for the roof, 12/4 pitch, and with a max height of just about 12' in the center to make the space feel more open (maybe a lift in the future? :) ). A single garage door 16' x 8', 1 man door next to it, and 4 30" x 30" fixed grid picture windows on the Northern and Southern sides to compliment.

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I dropped in a few of my tools and my other hobby, a '97 Volkswagen GTI VR6, just to see how everything played with the dimensions. I plan on parking the GTI on the pad behind the shop for most of the time. As knowing my tool habit, I'll fill the space up quickly.

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I've just recently learned how to make more realistic renders and put some together of the interior and exterior.

Interior

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Exterior

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I have a lot to learn yet still! I couldn't get the siding treatment to play nice in some of these but it's pretty standard classic look. For exterior finishes I'm using a cement fiberboard smooth lap siding made by Allura with a 6" reveal. Everything will be trimmed out in Versatex PVC trim for longevity. Once painting season comes back around I'll paint everything in a classic white. Roof is a 30 year asphalt shingle in black sage.

On the interior I'm planning on sheathing it all in OSB. Interior finishes are still TBD and I want to do something a bit different with colors. I have a few ideas knocking around the skull!

As a final word, one of the main driving factors is actually the resale of the house and garage/shop. I would have loved to build a unique structure with an architect but when it came down to the feel of the neighborhood and future resale we decided to keep it a fairly traditional structure at least on the exterior. I think next up I'll get some build photos posted!

Thanks for reading,

Tobin
 
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Nice CAD work and nice plan. I really like looking at others plans for layout and work flow in their dedicated and multi-use spaces. Every space I've ever had has been a preexisting structure that I've either adapted or just made do with. I'm always envious of this type of thread.

I have one suggestion:
You might keep your tool placement flexible as it relates to your jointer. I have found the jointer works so much better to the left of the saw. It also makes batching materials through the planer much easier when you aren't maneuvering around the jointer. That being said, my current saw/jointer combo are such that I can't do what I'm preaching.

Looking forward to your progress.
 

oldironfarmer

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Great rendering!!

Looking really good.

I've always ignored resale value and having lived in the same place 32 years I'm pretty much set in place :)
 
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sio

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Nice CAD work and nice plan. I really like looking at others plans for layout and work flow in their dedicated and multi-use spaces. Every space I've ever had has been a preexisting structure that I've either adapted or just made do with. I'm always envious of this type of thread.

I have one suggestion:
You might keep your tool placement flexible as it relates to your jointer. I have found the jointer works so much better to the left of the saw. It also makes batching materials through the planer much easier when you aren't maneuvering around the jointer. That being said, my current saw/jointer combo are such that I can't do what I'm preaching.

Looking forward to your progress.

Thanks for the suggestion! My brain tells me to lay this entire shop out in CAD down to dust collection piping, but A: that's a ton of work. B: I'd like to let it almost organically come together as I develop my own processes with working the space. I came from a 9' x 30' space that was so small! That being said, I plan on having just about everything on wheels for ease of adaptability.

Love the architecture you have and maintaining!

Hope to see the one wall with bench also having the full length filled with overhead cupboards. Never enough hidden storage!

That's the plan! Each of those cabinets will be the size of a 1/2 truck (45") width and built like road cases with casters for touring work. That'll make things much simpler to pack up when the time comes to move (if it does). When they're in place they'll be fastened together and I'll skin over the top to create a working surface. Above the cabinets will be a system based on french cleats for ease. The back wall that is devoid of windows or doors seems to speak wood storage right now.
 
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Too long and no update!

Since I laid out the drawing and drove the overall design & materials list (with some well guided suggestions), it was inevitable that I was going to become at least somewhat involved in the general contracting part of the build. I was a bit nervous of this as I have never done any residential construction, nor did I understand the intricacies of of being a GC. I wanted to turn over my plans to a builder and let them just run with the project. I also spend a lot of time on the road traveling to different conventions as that's my line of work, so with all the time on the road I cannot be on-site to coordinate the crews.

Luckily we found help with a family friend who lent me his list of vendors and would help co-GC the project while I was on the road. With that settled and after a short break in the action we finally broke ground in early November 2017 with the concrete crew! Of course I was on the road and wasn't able to document the concrete as much as I'd like so here some pics our friend/co-GCer sent over during and after work.

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Demo and pre-work for the footers and pad were finished on the first day. The electrical contractor also stopped by and subbed in his conduits for a nice clean through slab finish.

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What is tough to see here is the site slopes towards the left rear portion of the property. In order to get the grading of the pad and 10' apron that will be poured we ended up with a very think pad on backside of the shop as it runs against the existing pad. A mix truck showed up on the second day to do the shop slab in one pour.

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I wonder if that boot is under the pad?

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Pour finished and anchors set.

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I finally got off the road and was able to shoot some proper pictures of the site. Crew had removed the form work, cut the control lines, and also poured the 10' apron as well by this point. We plan on re-doing the whole driveway at some point in the future, not in the budget this time around! I think I shot these about a week before Thanksgiving. With 3 mature Pin Oaks on the property we have a lot of leaf control to do! We got a few "fossils" on the apron but not one on the main pad.

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Some closer shots of the finished pad

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Framing next!

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I'm a little nervous on the lack of a vapor barrier under the pad but I do not plan on sealing the floor in any way in the future. Is there anything I should watch out for?

Thanks for reading!

Tobin
 
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How about an update?

Well the framing crew got started the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, about a day or so after the framing package got delivered. The wife and I were headed out of town so we briefly made sure they had all that they needed, and I managed to snag a photo before we hopped on the road for our Thanksgiving pilgrimage back home to my folks in NY.

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Our friend who's been helping me out on the build stayed around to supervise and translate my plans to the crew. He sent me a few photos at the end of the day showing our progress.

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And this is were we hit the first snag. The scissor truss package got delivered the same day the framers started and as my buddy was double checking to make sure the counts and dimensions were correct, he caught the fact the the trusses were sized for a 24' span on the outer dimensions. This little mistake tied back to the fact that I had drawn the plans up for a 24' x 30' x 9' space as the interior dimensions. I've learned now that this is not the common way of describing the building dimensions. But I had given the plans, in detail, to our lumber supplier that did specifically call out 24' span as the interior dimension and he had missed it. After Thanksgiving wrapped up he was gracious enough to fix his mistake (on his dime) and re-order the truss package on a rush from his supplier. However this caused us to lose almost a week and a half on the project.

So with the correct trusses delivered, crew got back to work.

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And by the end of the day we were almost fully sheathed in. Just a few panels of OSB short for the roof...

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Nice to get a feel for how big the space will be!

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Framing crew came back and corrected the gable end trusses to be properly framed before we fully sheathed and sided the building.

That's all for now and thanks for reading!

Tobin
 

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I like the design to use the nearly full span VersaLam for the g-door headers. Normally the small walls on either side of the doors are brace panels on the West Coast (seismic). Are those or other on the side walls not required there?

BTW, should be a wonderful garage and shop!
 

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Thanks for sharing the build! Subbing for an update if you have the time.


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