Baileigh drill press

[Nosferatu]

Does anyone have any experience with the modern Baileigh drill presses? Specifically this one: https://www.baileigh.com/floor-drill-press-dp-2012f-hd-v3

If these things ****, any good alternatives that will fit the under $2k budget?

 

[LXCam]

No experience here but I bet it’s pretty decent. But it does blow me away that for a couple grand it’s not variable speed.

Good luck on getting your answer.

 

[PoorUB]

No experience, but it is a typical Chinese import.

For an under $2K budget I would look hard for an older used USA made drill press. A Powermatic 1150 or 1200 for example or Clausing 2272 or 2282.

 

[Firebrick43]

We have the gear head drill press at work, and a Baliegh shear and brake. I am not impressed. They are chinese, I would get a tiwanese or an american before one of them.

They are not worth the extra money that for some reason Baileigh tries to charge.

 

[Nosferatu]

Any new presses worth buying then?

I won't be screwing around with "trying" to find a used one, I already have a worn out Jet that I don't have the time or energy to mess with, which is what this will be replacing. I don't need more projects.

 

[ez-duzit]

I believe this machine is built in Taiwan. Looks like it could be OK. I would rather spend less on a better quality, used, American-made machine.

 

[Nosferatu]

I'd rather not wait the rest of my life for that unicorn to drop in my lap. I have work to do.

There's also not much else out there with an MT4 taper.

 

[shawhite]

Any new presses worth buying then?

I won't be screwing around with "trying" to find a used one, I already have a worn out Jet that I don't have the time or energy to mess with, which is what this will be replacing. I don't need more projects.

What exactly is wrong with the jet? Not much to go wrong with a drillpress and parts are available thru jet. Also why a MT4? MT3 is standard on this size drill. Look at grizzly they tend to get better reviews than baileigh. If you want to increase your budget there is Ellis or dake.

 

[ez-duzit]

What exactly is wrong with the jet?...Look at grizzly...

Jet and Grizzly are third tier.

 

[shawhite]

Jet and Grizzly are third tier.

Yes but they are about the only thing new in the OP price range. I did also mention Ellis but it’s considerably more

 

[Packard V8]

Up for a road trip? In Newport, WA, we've got a like-new bench model 3-phase Jet 20" tapping DP which retails for $6,000 we'd let you have for less than your $2,000 limit.

jack vines

 

[tarbellb]

I'll say it everytime Baileighs name comes up

Watch out

The majority of their offerings are the cheapest import junk with a fancy badge. Grizzly is typically a much better purchase.

If looking new go Grizzly, or spend more and get less with Powermatic, Jet. Or spend 3x and get Ellis or Dake.

Buying used does not mean you have to hunt, find your local machinery dealer and see what they have. You pay a higher premium, but it's on the floor and ready to check out.

 

[PoorUB]

Any new presses worth buying then?

I won't be screwing around with "trying" to find a used one, I already have a worn out Jet that I don't have the time or energy to mess with, which is what this will be replacing. I don't need more projects.

I am surprised at the reluctance to buy a used USA machine. You can find them for half the price of an import and they are a far superior machine.

I bought my Powermatic for $600, and although it was 3 phase, once I got an VFD mounted I haven't touch as far as repairs.

You are on the west coast, you should have used industrial machines flowing like water out there. Any time i looked at auctions they were east or west coast, or the Detroit area.

Plus Jet is an import drill press so you can not compare it to and older USA machine.

 

[slowtwitch73]

Mt 4 is tougher find used..

 

[Nosferatu]

What exactly is wrong with the jet? Not much to go wrong with a drillpress and parts are available thru jet. Also why a MT4? MT3 is standard on this size drill. Look at grizzly they tend to get better reviews than baileigh. If you want to increase your budget there is Ellis or dake.

Worn out bearings, broken & loose quill arms, loose table, broken power switch. It was a worn piece of junk when I got it 10 years ago (it was free) and I'm tired of it.

My tooling is MT4, so it would be nice to keep it. But adding an MT3 collet chuck isn't THAT expensive, I suppose. Not a complete deal breaker.

Up for a road trip? In Newport, WA, we've got a like-new bench model 3-phase Jet 20" tapping DP which retails for $6,000 we'd let you have for less than your $2,000 limit.

jack vines

I appreciate the offer, but I don't have 3-phase power.

I'll say it everytime Baileighs name comes up

Watch out

The majority of their offerings are the cheapest import junk with a fancy badge. Grizzly is typically a much better purchase.

If looking new go Grizzly, or spend more and get less with Powermatic, Jet. Or spend 3x and get Ellis or Dake.

Buying used does not mean you have to hunt, find your local machinery dealer and see what they have. You pay a higher premium, but it's on the floor and ready to check out.

I'm going to head to the Grizzly store sometime this week and see what they have.

I am surprised at the reluctance to buy a used USA machine. You can find them for half the price of an import and they are a far superior machine.

I bought my Powermatic for $600, and although it was 3 phase, once I got an VFD mounted I haven't touch as far as repairs.

You are on the west coast, you should have used industrial machines flowing like water out there. Any time i looked at auctions they were east or west coast, or the Detroit area.

Plus Jet is an import drill press so you can not compare it to and older USA machine.

It's not a reluctance to buy a USA machine, it's a reluctance to deal with the typical **** that's involved with hunting down and hoping that perfect one is available at the time you need it, not to mention has the specs you require. You tool collectors act like we can just drive down to the used USA tools store and pick one up.

 

[PoorUB]

It's not a reluctance to buy a USA machine, it's a reluctance to deal with the typical **** that's involved with hunting down and hoping that perfect one is available at the time you need it, not to mention has the specs you require. You tool collectors act like we can just drive down to the used USA tools store and pick one up.

Wow!

No I don't think you can just run over and pick one up. but finding one on the west coast is a lot easier than finding one here in Fargo. And also, I am far from a "tool collector". I buy a tool to use it. I don't paint and polish them up.
When I bought my PM1200 I bet I looked for ten years before one came along close enough to drive to get it.

I just bought a Delta Unisaw. I hauled it home 900 miles.

There is, what looks to be a nice Rockwell about 65 miles from you, but the seller doesn't have much information on it, and the price is a bit more than I would pay.

My PM1200 was $3,500 new in the 90's. that equates out to about $6,500 today. Now raise you sights and start shopping for a $6,000+ drill press.

I didn't buy "old iron" because I am in love with having it, I bought it because for the price it is hard to beat. I went through this same deal you are going through right now and every time I looked at a $1,000+ import my heart just sank because they all looked cheap to me.

Here is one from Grizzly that is getting close to my PM1200, but still falls a bit short. My PM1200 was built in 1971, where will this import be in fifty years? Melted down and rebuilt into an all electric Kia by then https://www.grizzly.com/products/south-bend-19-1-2-floor-drill-press/sb1125

 

[Nosferatu]

Wow!

No I don't think you can just run over and pick one up. but finding one on the west coast is a lot easier than finding one here in Fargo. And also, I am far from a "tool collector". I buy a tool to use it. I don't paint and polish them up.
When I bought my PM1200 I bet I looked for ten years before one came along close enough to drive to get it.

I just bought a Delta Unisaw. I hauled it home 900 miles.

There is, what looks to be a nice Rockwell about 65 miles from you, but the seller doesn't have much information on it, and the price is a bit more than I would pay.

My PM1200 was $3,500 new in the 90's. that equates out to about $6,500 today. Now raise you sights and start shopping for a $6,000+ drill press.

I didn't buy "old iron" because I am in love with having it, I bought it because for the price it is hard to beat. I went through this same deal you are going through right now and every time I looked at a $1,000+ import my heart just sank because they all looked cheap to me.

Here is one from Grizzly that is getting close to my PM1200, bu still falls a bit short. My PM1200 was built in 1971, where will this import be in fifty years? Melted down and rebuilt into an all electric Kia by then https://www.grizzly.com/products/south-bend-19-1-2-floor-drill-press/sb1125

Good for you. As I said before, I'm not interested in another project, nor am I interested in the time and effort it takes to deal with people.

If it's so easy over here, find me one. I have looked briefly, most of what I saw on sites were in as bad shape as what I have.

 

[Firebrick43]

Good for you. As I said before, I'm not interested in another project, nor am I interested in the time and effort it takes to deal with people.

If it's so easy over here, find me one. I have looked briefly, most of what I saw on sites were in as bad shape as what I have.

Then why haven't you bought one and are asking questions here?

 

[PoorUB]

As for Grizzly I looked them over too. Typical to the one you posted. Check the website before you drive over. Inventory looks a bit thin.

 

[Nosferatu]

Then why haven't you bought one and are asking questions here?

God forbid anyone does any diligence before a major purchase, eh?

 

[Nosferatu]

As for Grizzly I looked them over too. Typical to the one you posted. Check the website before you drive over. Inventory looks a bit thin.

Yeah, the 20" is out of stock, but they have a 17" in stock here that would be good enough.

 

[Firebrick43]

God forbid anyone does any diligence before a major purchase, eh?

No, that is perfectly fine. I am questioning the contradictory statements you are making

 

[PoorUB]

Yeah, the 20" is out of stock, but they have a 17" in stock here that would be good enough.

Well good luck with it. Keep in mind is is about the same caliber as the Jet you are junking. Hobbyist use it should be fine.

I had a similar Jet when I bought mu PM1200. The first thing I notice right away was how much more rigid the PM1200 was over the Jet. Drilling a 1/2" hole in steel with the Jet the table would visibly flex down under the pressure, and I mean a lot! My PM1200 doesn't flex at all, or at least not visibly.

 

[shawhite]

Couple clausing 20 on eBay in your area @ your price point. Also a couple at machine dealers that will gladly ship one too you.

 

[Nosferatu]

No, that is perfectly fine. I am questioning the contradictory statements you are making

such as?

 

[Firebrick43]

such as?

Highlighted in red in post 18, your dealing with people in the forum, and getting upset that people on a "public forum" are offering advice you don't want to see.

 

[Nosferatu]

Highlighted in red in post 18, your dealing with people in the forum, and getting upset that people on a "public forum" are offering advice you don't want to see.

Yeah, because typing out responses online is the same thing as driving to meet up with some flake or flat out optimist about how wonderful his POS machine is.

 

[ez-duzit]

...If it's so easy over here, find me one...

Do your own shopping and due diligence.

 

[Nosferatu]

Do your own shopping and due diligence.

Ooh..you told me!

I could swear that's what this thread was about.

Regardless, I have a unit secured and am going to be picking it up in the next couple weeks, feel free to tear up this thread as you wish.

 

[tarbellb]

What did you end up getting?

 

[bubinga]

Ooh..you told me!

I could swear that's what this thread was about.

Regardless, I have a unit secured and am going to be picking it up in the next couple weeks, feel free to tear up this thread as you wish.

That easy doesn't is really something else I just added him to my ignore list.
not a very kind person from what I can see.

 

[ez-duzit]

That easy doesn't is really something else I just added the magnolia list not a very kind person from what I can see.

Stalking now? Lowest of the low.

 

[blwn31]

What about a mill? Even a clapped out mill is a about the best drill press known to man, and you should easily be able to score one for under $2K.

Keith

 

[GRB]

When I found that Baileigh West Coast Location was nearby, I went in person and looked at 30 pieces of their equipment. It was a mixed bag with some looking good, some looking like the typical cheap no name ****. I recall the tubing bending stuff for race car chassis fab looking great. I would say this is like Grizzly in that you can't make an assumption based upon the brand, you have to be specific about that tool being OK or not.

 

[zmotorsports]

That looks very, very similar to my older Jet 20" floor model drill press. Located center of picture.


My older Jet is labeled as being Taiwanese made and the quality is very good. I did however machine/fabricate a 6" riser that mounts to the base and column as both my son and I are a bit taller than average and I didn't care for the general height of the head. We did this nearly immediately after purchasing nearly 15 years ago. It's hard to see in the picture but it is just under the yellow coiled air hose that is draped across the drill press's table, you can see the fasteners joining the riser to the column and base.

 

[dogdog]

I appreciate the offer, but I don't have 3-phase power.

If I have that $$$ to spend and need, that is a great offer. for that Jet 20" tapping DP... just call them up and check if the motor is capable of running under VFD...

 

[bubinga]

Stalking now? Lowest of the low.

trust me buddy, I'm not "stalking" you.
I just read a few of you threads and got over my laziness long enough to reply.
l won't "Stalk" you anymore.

 

[bubinga]

That looks very, very similar to my older Jet 20" floor model drill press. Located center of picture.


My older Jet is labeled as being Taiwanese made and the quality is very good. I did however machine/fabricate a 6" riser that mounts to the base and column as both my son and I are a bit taller than average and I didn't care for the general height of the head. We did this nearly immediately after purchasing nearly 15 years ago. It's hard to see in the picture but it is just under the yellow coiled air hose that is draped across the drill press's table, you can see the fasteners joining the riser to the column and base.

Nice shop!!

 

[timgunn1962]

220 RPM on an MT4 seems pretty fast to me, though I'm more used to backgeared drills with sub-100 RPM lowest speeds and drilling steel and occasionally stainless. Will it go slow enough for the work you intend to do? MT4 generally covers drills from 1 5/64" up to 1 1/2".

 

[Renegade1LI]

Does anyone have any experience with the modern Baileigh drill presses? Specifically this one: https://www.baileigh.com/floor-drill-press-dp-2012f-hd-v3

If these things ****, any good alternatives that will fit the under $2k budget?

I'm not familiar with baileigh but I have a grizzly G7948 20" bought it 12 years ago, works fine It's drilled a lot of holes & the price is right. I have a few griz machines & say what you want but they are all good & the company really stands behind the product, easy to speak with a tech. They few issues I had were resolved quickly with new parts being sent right out. I would buy another griz dp in a minute.