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Baldor Bench Grinder question(s)

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I have a couple questions about a Baldor Grinder I have, but I want to tell a quick funny story first. First off, I am not a grinder expert (engineer and contractor, but just don't know a whole lot about different grinders). So, I've had a grinder which was gifted to me probably about 45 years ago. It was missing some parts. I've carted this thing around with me for several cross country moves over the years, but never really used it. A while back I did a deep cleaning of my woodshop (and basement) and marked a number of items to get rid of to Goodwill with surveyor's flagging tape (so I'd know which items to load when I got ready to make a run). After never having really used this grinder, it got a piece of flagging tape. A few weeks later I loaded up the truck, and off I went. Well, I missed an item, and it was this grinder. Be it fate, or luck, I decided to look into the grinder's history and replacement value. Holy ****! I had no idea about Baldor grinders, and this particular grinder, while old, would cost nearly $2 grand to replace! So, long story short, I'd dodged a bullet by accident. LOL! Okay, now to making it whole again. On to my questions. ...

The grinder is a Baldor model # 612, 1/3 HP 6" grinder (red version, if that matters). The grinder itself works perfectly, excellently balanced and super powerful. However, it is missing the tool rests on both sides and shields (not even sure if these even came with shields). I also need a stand for it. I looked on Baldor's website for replacement parts, and the tool rests for this thing are like $200 bucks per side (if I'm looking at their site correctly), and they're just a couple pieces of metal and some bolts. Seems excessive to me, for what it is. The wheel guards are still in place, just the tool rests which mount to them are missing. Is there a better, or different, way to skin this cat, or should I just bite the bullet and spend the money? Because I know some of the history of this grinder (it was in the shop of a family business), I remember that the tool rests were removed because they weren't all that functional. They were lost before I got the grinder. So, I guess my question is, is there a better / more functional aftermarket solution I should maybe look for to use as tool rests?

My next question is what is the best combination of grinding wheels / brushes, etc. to use for a general purpose grinder? And when I say 'general', I truly mean 'could be anything!' (we run a cattle ranch, work on vehicles, do woodworking, metal, etc.) I realize no single solution works for absolutely everything, but I'd like to equip it such that changing wheels is at least minimized somewhat.

Lastly, I'd love to hear some suggestions for the best type of stand for this grinder. It works on the bench, but seems like it would be a lot more useful if it was on its own tool stand. Is there a good brand out there to buy, or is this a better DIY project? (I stink at welding, just FYI). I looked into the generic stands at HF, but they're really poorly designed. I don't mind spending the money to get a decent one (within reason).

Sorry for the long read, and thank you greatly for any input you may have!
 
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Tool rests are really easy to make. If you can find a four inch steel angle, just cut it to shape. Otherwise, an welder is needed.
 
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Thanks for the replies! I'll poke around on ebay and see what I can find. I looked a while back, but didn't see much.

I'd looked at ones similar to the veritas one previously, but those really want to mount on a bench in front of the grinder. I'd like to get my grinder set up on a free standing grinder stand so I don't have a bench in the way for longer stuff.

In the meantime, I've decided to attempt to fix my stinky welding skills, this time in earnest. So, I'm gonna' buy a welder and try harder.
 

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My solution for new rests.

 

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exmaxima1

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I have a couple questions about a Baldor Grinder I have, but I want to tell a quick funny story first. First off, I am not a grinder expert (engineer and contractor, but just don't know a whole lot about different grinders). So, I've had a grinder which was gifted to me probably about 45 years ago. It was missing some parts. I've carted this thing around with me for several cross country moves over the years, but never really used it. A while back I did a deep cleaning of my woodshop (and basement) and marked a number of items to get rid of to Goodwill with surveyor's flagging tape (so I'd know which items to load when I got ready to make a run). After never having really used this grinder, it got a piece of flagging tape. A few weeks later I loaded up the truck, and off I went. Well, I missed an item, and it was this grinder. Be it fate, or luck, I decided to look into the grinder's history and replacement value. Holy ****! I had no idea about Baldor grinders, and this particular grinder, while old, would cost nearly $2 grand to replace! So, long story short, I'd dodged a bullet by accident. LOL! Okay, now to making it whole again. On to my questions. ...
Retail is currently $473 and discounted price is as low as $250 at times.

If planning to sharpen wood working tools it would be worthwhile to invest is a CBN (Carbon Boron Nitride) wheel to avoid overheating chisels or plane blades. Or a 3M friable wheel, pink or white.
 

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Thanks for the replies! I'll poke around on ebay and see what I can find. I looked a while back, but didn't see much.

I'd looked at ones similar to the veritas one previously, but those really want to mount on a bench in front of the grinder. I'd like to get my grinder set up on a free standing grinder stand so I don't have a bench in the way for longer stuff.

In the meantime, I've decided to attempt to fix my stinky welding skills, this time in earnest. So, I'm gonna' buy a welder and try harder.
Also if you need something cut out from a waterjet, I have the capability to design and cut parts and can help you out if you are trying to make something specific. You’d just have to send me the dimensions of what you want cut.

I would find a used Baldor stand off of Facebook. They are very nice. Otherwise I would weld together your own heavy duty stand. Don’t buy the thin Chinese ones as they are terrible. You’d probably be okay if you bolted them to the floor.
 
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Also if you need something cut out from a waterjet, I have the capability to design and cut parts and can help you out if you are trying to make something specific. You’d just have to send me the dimensions of what you want cut.

I would find a used Baldor stand off of Facebook. They are very nice. Otherwise I would weld together your own heavy duty stand. Don’t buy the thin Chinese ones as they are terrible. You’d probably be okay if you bolted them to the floor.
Much appreciated! Let me figure out what I want this thing to look like. I don't think I'm looking for something terribly complicated, just a basic rest. The Baldor wheel guard does have a bit of a weird angle at the bottom, so I want to make sure I get the geometry on the 2, possibly 3, pieces right first. When I get something drawn up I will shoot you a copy to get some comments and I will gladly pay for your time, efforts and materials!

And yes, I think one of my first actual welding 'projects' will be to build a decent grinder stand. I completely agree the HF (and similar) stands are pretty much garbage designs and worse construction.

Thanks again!
 
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Retail is currently $473 and discounted price is as low as $250 at times.

If planning to sharpen wood working tools it would be worthwhile to invest is a CBN (Carbon Boron Nitride) wheel to avoid overheating chisels or plane blades. Or a 3M friable wheel, pink or white.
I assume you were referring to the grinder (current model), correct? If so, yeah, I may not have looked at the exact right model number. Their catalog is a bit cryptic, so you're probably right. In any case, they're a lot more than most standard crummy box store grinders. Not a bad score for free though, right?

Thanks for the recommend on the wheels. Yes, woodworking tools would be one use for them. Some other uses would probably involve metal parts which would likely be more standard grit grinding wheels. What might be some good generic all-around grits for those?

Thanks!
 

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Thanks for the recommend on the wheels. Yes, woodworking tools would be one use for them. Some other uses would probably involve metal parts which would likely be more standard grit grinding wheels. What might be some good generic all-around grits for those?

Thanks!
I'm not a fan of old fashioned grinding wheels as I've moved to belts for nearly all my needs. My bench grinders usually employ wire wheels, 3M Scotchbrite wheels, or buffing wheels. If I was to use an aluminum oxide wheel it would probably be something around 100 grit to sharpen screwdrivers or shape screw heads. Note that if you ever touch aluminum with a standard wheel it will clog and could be promptly ruined---belts are easy to replace if they get clogged.
 

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You can dress a wheel that's been wetted with aluminum but, yes, you can easily hork one if you're incautious with the wrong materials.

Note that OP could also turn this bench grinder into a belt grinder with some creativity!
 
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