Bandsaw appriasial

[killahog]

I found this for sale locally and could use some help determining what would be a fair price. The owner said it currently has a blade on it for cutting metal. He could not tell me the model number or the motor HP but said it looks original. He is asking $449.00

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[wrenchguy]

its a delta 14", search this site, its gotta have a reduction gearbox 4 metal.

http://www.owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=138448&p=929920&hilit=band+saw+blade+speed#p929920

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

That's a lot more than I'd pay. I'd think about $200, $250 tops.

 

[marctheprop]

Around here the wood only version goes for $150 or so. With the reduction gear for metal you can add $50-$75. But a lot of price depends on location. That is a pretty saw though-from the decal/badge I'd guess early 60's. Lots of parts still available as Delta sold thousands of them. Good Luck!

 

[kctyphoon]

i THINK i paid $300 or $350 for my 16" grizzly.

 

[DMAR]

Seems pretty high for that old machine. That being said, it's a well-made rig. I'd offer a couple hundred and walk if he doesn't agree... No way would I pay $450 for it.

 

[nine4gmc]

That machine HAS the gearbox for cutting metal, you can see the oiler below the table in front. $450 is not a bad price, I would not sell mine for 3x that but I also did not pay 1/3 that.

Here are a few on ebay that start at $650 and go up: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop...4 metal band saw&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

And here is one that actually sold for $650: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop...lete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

 

[killahog]

Well it appears the general consensus is the machine is over priced. I Think I am going to go look at it first hand and take a few pictures. I really appreciate the advice .

 

[Rock Hound]

I think it is priced more than I would want to pay, but if it is in really good condition and you have a lot of metal projects, it would be hard to find something comparable in that general price range.

 

[1949 caddyman]

I got one like that. It was restored, I paid $700. It is a very nice saw. It dose have the gear box for metal sawing.

 

[zkling]

It's a bit over priced IMHO, especially for the condition. You really need to go through the gear box with new bearings before putting it into full use. If one of those shafts spins a race, it get very expensive fast.

Also consider what you want to use it for. They are nice for contouring and general cutting of ~1/2" and less plate, ~1.5" bar stock. If you plan on a heavy diet of large plate and cutoff, get a bigger machine. They just aren't all that heavy build wise. If you do go check it out, check the trunions for cracks (what the table mounts to) and ensure that the drive parts for the gear box are present. Both common issues on those saws.

 

[yaidunno]

I paid right around $400 for mine. Its a '73 model. Personally I'd rather have the older version like the one pictured. They are nice saws for lighter contour work and parts are fairly plentiful from what I've seen.

Price seems reasonable if you "gota have it" I'd shoot for $350 to consider it a good deal. This is assuming that it is good working order and does not need repair.

 

[Indexmill]

That machine HAS the gearbox for cutting metal, you can see the oiler below the table in front. $450 is not a bad price, I would not sell mine for 3x that but I also did not pay 1/3 that.

Here are a few on ebay that start at $650 and go up: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop...4 metal band saw&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

And here is one that actually sold for $650: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sop...lete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Nine nailed it. It is the metal cutting version of the venerable Delta 14" band saw. It has a gearbox to slow the band speed way down as evidenced by the gear oil filler as Nine said.

$450 for that saw is a very good price. I have one and love it. With a brand name bimetal blade, it will cut thick steel like butter.

If you don't need metal cutting capability, then pass. If you do, go look at it and run it. If it is sound, buy it and you will never look back.

 

[scw1991]

It's a fair price for a wood/metal cutting 14" Delta. However, it does have a stamped steel belt guard and the sought after retirement light. That is not an OEM Delta motor though.

Based on the bolted steel flared leg stand and guards knobs, I'd estimate mid to late 50's vintage.

 

[HanShotFirst]

So what is the gear box that does metal? I thought to do metal you just changed pulleys?

 

[nine4gmc]

The gear box has a shift lever that puts the machine in low gear for metal cutting and there are step pulleys to change the speed from low to high in low gear or high gear so you can cut at up to 8(i think) different speeds, four for metal and four for wood.

 

[scw1991]

The gear box has a shift lever that puts the machine in low gear for metal cutting and there are step pulleys to change the speed from low to high in low gear or high gear so you can cut at up to 8(i think) different speeds, four for metal and four for wood.

sort of....

It's got a 4-step pulley that mates to a 4-step pulley on the gearbox for metal cutting operations and uses a short v-belt for (4) different speed ranges. The gearbox itself provides roughly a 30:1 gear reduction (if not mistaken) to the lower band saw wheel shaft internal spur gear. I've owned and fully restored several of them.

When you cut wood, you put a longer v-belt on the motor pulley and it mates to a larger 8" pulley on the lower band saw wheel shaft for (1) speed operation.

As nine4gmc has stated, the shift lever on the gearbox simply disengages the internal gears from the lower band saw wheel shaft spur gear. You engage when cutting metal, and disengage when cutting wood.

You can hop on over to www.owwm.org or www.vintagemachinery.org to see many more pictures, and also download a plethora of O&M manuals and parts lists for these vintage machines.

This wood/metal band saw is "ok" for light duty metal cutting work at best but is not set up to utilize a blade coolant system as is conventionally found on horizontal metal cutting band saws. Nor does this band saw have a vice to secure the work while being cut. This is a major disadvantage over a horizontal band saw or chop saw.

If your sole purpose were to use it for metal cutting operations, I'd pass unless you require unique shapes in heavy gauge sheet metal work.

 

[justanengineer]

JMO, but I'd have to be roughly half that price for one of these machines bc locally here you can get a smaller industrial quality machine like a baby (16") Do-All or Grob for what the seller wants you to spend on that light-duty saw.

 

[Thumper68]

JMO, but I'd have to be roughly half that price for one of these machines bc locally here you can get a smaller industrial quality machine like a baby (16") Do-All or Grob for what the seller wants you to spend on that light-duty saw.

That is the issue with asking for value info on equipment, Around here just finding the equipment is hard enough. I paid a bit over $800 for my Rockwell Delta 20" a few months ago, then I had to add a vfd.

Not everywhere are these machines dropping from the sky.

 

[1950mercury]

That is a nice setup. Id ****** it up for 350_400