Barn Light Parts

[cal67ss396]

I am in search of some parts for a light (basically all I am using is the shade) that I want to rebuild and repurpose for an exterior barn light.

Does anyone know where I can find the same type of flange and light fixtures that barn lights uses. I have the shade and means to bend conduit I just need the flange and the actual light fixture.

If there is a thread on this, I could not find it.

 

[JoeFin]

I am in search of some parts for a light (basically all I am using is the shade) that I want to rebuild and repurpose for an exterior barn light.

If you talking about the old coolie caps they have quite a few parts at my local hardware

 

[cal67ss396]

I am really looking for something that a conduit can thread in from the top of the shade. As for the wall mounted side I am looking for something that will receive a threaded conduit. Just like the galvanized gooseneck that they sell at barn lights.

 

[chaingang]

The wall side is a simple pipe flange that you can get at any plumbing supply house. Don't know about the other part though.

 

[chaingang]

Try the link here. You can buy from McMaster Carr with a credit card.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-metal-pipe-flanges/=q0g8dv

 

[Norcal]

The wall side is a simple pipe flange that you can get at any plumbing supply house. Don't know about the other part though.

Dredge up plumbing parts for electrical work? They do make the correct parts so it's not a hack job.

 

[stangster]

I also used a 1/2" plumbing flange on the outside of my buildings. I took a die grinder and took out the threads so the 1/2" pipe would slide through snug then attached the threaded end of the pipe to an electrical box on the inside of the building. The flange serves to hold the weight of the fixture and pipe without having the electrical box and threaded end supporting it all. Worked out good for me and is electrically correct. I have a total of four gooseneck lights on my buildings

 

[chaingang]

Dredge up plumbing parts for electrical work? They do make the correct parts so it's not a hack job.

Hack job? These lights were purchased as restorations from Barn Light Company and were supplied with the ends. The lights are from a paper mill and are from the 30's. The necks are 3/4" rigid conduit and the flanges are pipe fittings and look just fine.

If these are hack jobs Ill take them all day!!

 

[chaingang]

I also used a 1/2" plumbing flange on the outside of my buildings. I took a die grinder and took out the threads so the 1/2" pipe would slide through snug then attached the threaded end of the pipe to an electrical box on the inside of the building. The flange serves to hold the weight of the fixture and pipe without having the electrical box and threaded end supporting it all. Worked out good for me and is electrically correct. I have a total of four gooseneck lights on my buildings

Stangster, nice lights, don't look like a hack job to me!!

 

[BFBOB]

I am in search of some parts for a light (basically all I am using is the shade) that I want to rebuild and repurpose for an exterior barn light.

Does anyone know where I can find the same type of flange and light fixtures that barn lights uses. I have the shade and means to bend conduit I just need the flange and the actual light fixture.

If there is a thread on this, I could not find it.

If you search this thread for my posts, you'll find some pix of how I did it. Home Depot parts, mostly off the shelf.

 

[stangster]

Stangster, nice lights, don't look like a hack job to me!!

Thanks. Bought about 20 of the fixtures at a swap meet last summer. Made my own goose necks. Sold a few of the lights on e-bay.

 

[Norcal]

Everything but the plumbing parts look good, the flange is hack.

 

[Jim_No_Garage]

Everything but the plumbing parts look good, the flange is hack.

Norcal:

Your opinion on the flanges is noted.

Could you provide description and link to the proper hardware for this application? I'm thinking of doing something similar and am interested in doing it correctly.

Cheers

Jim

 

[stangster]

I think correctly is the wrong word to use. Seems more like personal taste or opinion. There is nothing electrically wrong with these installations as long as they are weather proof.

 

[BFBOB]

Norcal may be right, strictly speaking. A friend of mine was gigged for using pvc water pipe for conduit - just for appearances, for low voltage, where conduit wasn't required at all! He had to put in the gray stuff and paint it.

So, could well be that if it isn't UL approved for electric, it isn't legal, and I'm fairly sure such a flange doesn't carry a dual listing.
It seems to me (just guessing here!) that if you used actual conduit and conduit fittings straight to an electric junction box, and the flange was drilled out for a slip fit over the conduit and only providing support, not in contact with the conductors, that might be permissible. I expect Norcal will chime in - he's certainly more knowlegeable than I am.

 

[stangster]

Norcal may be right, strictly speaking. A friend of mine was gigged for using pvc water pipe for conduit - just for appearances, for low voltage, where conduit wasn't required at all! He had to put in the gray stuff and paint it.

So, could well be that if it isn't UL approved for electric, it isn't legal, and I'm fairly sure such a flange doesn't carry a dual listing.
It seems to me (just guessing here!) that if you used actual conduit and conduit fittings straight to an electric junction box, and the flange was drilled out for a slip fit over the conduit and only providing support, not in contact with the conductors, that might be permissible. I expect Norcal will chime in - he's certainly more knowlegeable than I am.

For my installation it is strictly for support. The conduit goes through to an electrical box on the inside of the buildings.

 

[BFBOB]

For my installation it is strictly for support. The conduit goes through to an electrical box on the inside of the buildings.

And it looks sensational! One thing I'd do to maintain those looks is seal those outdoor flanges where the conduit goes through, front and rear. I think the best choice would be Super Gray permatex silicone. I've used it for sealing conduit, and it blends in almost perfectly. Stops those pesky rust stains.

 

[carguyjosh01]

here's the only socket i could find as being manufactured:

http://www.arklighting.com/index.php/barn-lights-rlm/rlm-options-accessories/sockets/30-e-socket.html


btw i just bought from fleabay for 18 bucks and shipping :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360498485012?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Hope this helps someone else on the hunt!

 

[aar0s]

I have two lights similar to the ones chaingang has pictures hanging in my garage. I took the two foot down rods off and replaced them with some six inch black iron fittings that are threaded on both ends and reused the original swivel end that is mounted to a metal box on a brace.

 

[Gerald O]

This is what I used for my flange attachments. Possibly overkill, but definitely not plumbing hack.

 

[Falcon67]

I looked for parts here and online, always came up $$$ over what I thought was reasonable. I gave up and waited on eBay until the right light showed up. $60 paid for a complete unit in nice condition.

Plumbing

Mounted

 

[stangster]

I looked for parts here and online, always came up $$$ over what I thought was reasonable. I gave up and waited on eBay until the right light showed up. $60 paid for a complete unit in nice condition.

Plumbing

Mounted

That is a very nice looking light. Great condition. I sold a few of my extras on e-bay but let the add expire. Still have a few more.

 

[Hounddog]

To the OP search for parts... I too only have the shades and no "innards" socket and such. The problem I see is that there's so many styles, mfgrs, years of mfgr... that there are most certianly many different types. I've seen a two part ceramic socket arrangement that are common to these lamps but yet to see the galv/metal cap that the gooseneck/pipe threads too. We may both have to be creative to wrap our projects up. I've some questions out there with some dealers of antique lighting.....I'll be sure to share what I come up with.

 

[strnge]

Here are photos of one of my light shades with the original hardware on it. unfortionaltly only one came like this. I will have to rebuild mine with all new stuff.

 

[stangster]

Which parts are you looking for?

 

[j p smith]

stangster, sent you a PM.


Here are a few pictures of our lights, the 2 on the ends of the gables are from ww2 army barracks that were at the base outside of Waco, Texas. There are 4 across the front of the shop. I just had the reflectors and made all the pieces to hold the sockets and mount them.

 

[strnge]

I'm looking for the caps like the the second photo I posted.

 

[kursplat]

thanks for the info everyone, i've got a pile of shades I need to get to one day

 

[stangster]

stangster, sent you a PM.


Here are a few pictures of our lights, the 2 on the ends of the gables are from ww2 army barracks that were at the base outside of Waco, Texas. There are 4 across the front of the shop. I just had the reflectors and made all the pieces to hold the sockets and mount them.

Those look really nice. You did a good job hanging them.

 

[ct71rr]

stangster, what are you using for bulbs?

 

[j p smith]

Those look really nice. You did a good job hanging them.

Thanks!

 

[stangster]

stangster, what are you using for bulbs?

I've been using CFL's. The days we had this past winter that were below zero they never came up to full brightness but other than that they do well.

 

[ct71rr]

Thanks!

 

[Spudd dud]

Check out the thread listed below, I just posted on it the lights I have/made for about $40-$50 into for gooesneck lights.

"Gooseneck light source"

 

[Bjm364]

I'm with Norcal, I hate when I see these fixtures on ebay for $200 fit up with some cop-out parts out of the plumbing aisle instead of electrical fittings. There are several suppliers for these types of bases that connect to flush mounted electrical boxes. Try ark lighting or baselight.