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Barn Style Garage remodel project, looking for input

Leftynuse

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My new house came with a two story detached 2 car garage, I am in the process of putting a remodel plan together for it. I just am looking for some input and creative ideas to go with some of my thoughts. I will upload some pictures when I have them.

It was built with a Barn style roof. First off, What ideas are there that can improve this look without any structural work? The roof on one side is covered in moss, there is a huge oak tree completely covering this side of the roof. It gets no sunlight and the roof leaks and must be replaced. I am assuming I need to have this tree majorly trimmed before having the roof replaced or risk a repeat problem? Additionally, is adding a few side facing windows(is it called a dormer?) a huge undertaking or just a drop in the hat considering all of the other work I intend to do? The exterior is wood siding that is showing signs of rot at the bottom and around all of the wood trim, I would like to replace this with a combination of Hardi-plank and a stone veneer. Any suggestions for this type of thing? I can get the materials at cost but want to incorporate this change with the improvement of the barn look. Additionally I have this at the bottom of the priority list, is it more important than I am thinking? There is a completely separate 220 power runnning to the garage, and plenty of electrical throughout, and I am capable of moving power and installing fixtures etc when needed/wanted, so very little electrical work needs done. The previous owner had already put stairs in to the upstairs that is finished as a big office, but it is basically just a large long room with a window at each end and a window AC unit on one end. Drywall ceiling and walls with a wallpaper over it. Its a very good sized space that I would like to put to better use as an entertaining space/man cave type room:beer:, with some additional storage. Should I remove all of the drywall up here to assess the water damage from the leaking roof? And then install new? It does have some beautiful exposed beams that I want to keep as part of the upstairs look. Downstairs, had a little storage space under the stairs and another large storage room in the back corner that has drywall walls, a door and looks nice, but like the rest of the downstairs no ceiling, just exposed studs. What is ideal for a garage ceiling? Maybe nothing? or would I need something there for a reason I don't know? The walls of the first floor Garage area was crappy old wood paneling, it has since been removed to expose the studs and assess water damage - surprisingly of which there is very little. I'd like to install corugated metal on all of these walls to give it a nice industrial look. The supports on this first floor are 2 posts, the kind you install by screwing them up until they are tight. They just don't seem to be too secure. Should they be repplaced or are these normally ok? I would like to build wood columns around the posts in the middle of the garage, Could I just add additional support as part of this work? Lastly, There is no plumbing currently, I would like to add a small half bath, replacing the storage area that is under the stairs, and a put a utility tub/sink in the back storage room.What would be involved here? The closest plumbing is from one of the bathrooms in the house. But the house is a slab, can the plumbing still be run?

Sorry for getting long winded. I have tried to put my questions next to the part of the project they apply to...I am just looking for some input on creative ways to do some of these things myself, and identify ways to improve safety or potential long term items that need to be corrected in order to not have to do repair work down the road. Any other input is more than welcome.

Thanks in advance

Lefty
 
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Alright here are some pictures of the existing
 

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Here's more
 

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Here is the upstairs
 

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Not bad looking bones. I would add an extra stud or two in the lower room (as they look like they are 2' on centers) unless you use 5/8" drywall or OSB for a wall covering. As far as removing drywall to check on water damage from a leaky roof. DEFINITELY. You could have black mold between the drywall and roof sheathing. Dormers would not be a problem and the time to do it would be when the roof gets replaces and the drywall removed. I would cut the rotted siding off so high before adding anything over it. The T1-11 will make a great subsiding and adds structural integrity.
Basically what you need to do you already know, I think. Fix what is bad, then just update it. Cover the inside walls with either drywall or OSB, paint, add some outlets, cable, etc.
I'd start by going through some pics of different garages on here and then start making a list of what REALLY stands out and catches your eye. Everyone has different taste so everyone will have different ideas. It is your garage, so it will be personalized your way which will be a combination of almost everything you see on GJ. One question though is what type of budget are you looking at and what part of the country are you in? The reason I ask is that in different parts of the country, materials and labor vary quite a bit.
One thing for sure, if you have moss growing on your roof and siding, you really want to trim the tree so you can try to get some sunlight in there. Another thing about the huge Oak trees is that they are a hardwood. The tap root goes straight down, and if the tree is old, which I am assuming by the size, chances are the center of the tree may start to become hollow. In our part of the world, we have a lot of huge Oaks around. There has been many over the years that have been cut down and are completely hollow. A real haven for Carpenter Ants. And if it is damp around your area, they can migrate to your garage. Also when the giant tree starts to get age to it, you stand a good chance of huge limbs breaking off.

I didn't see the upstairs pics until after I posted. Nice looking space up there. What are your intentions for it? Livable portion of the Mancave or just storage? If a couch, TV, and such would be going in, I'd add recessed lighting into the ceiling, run some cable for TV up there, add in a phone line, maybe a small bar and fridge. Do you have a bathroom downstairs in the small built in room or just storage? If it's a bathroom, you could also run a small sink up above from tyeing in to the lines
 
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Leftynuse

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Great input there Kevin. Very helpful. There isn't a bathroom in the garage yet, but I am planning to install that in a space under the stairs with a door from the storage room and the lines running back to the main plumbing. Got a quote for that yesterday actually. I will definitely plan to tear out the drywall upstairs to see what kind of damage I'm looking at. And I am going to plan to add the dormers when I have the roof done.

My budget is around 20K, hopefully a good bit less. I'm in Charlotte, NC. I think I have enough connections for the things I will need to buy and the amount of work I need done, that I can't do myself, to be under that budget and have a place I am going to love when its all said and done.

If only one of those oak trees would drop an old branch today when we have half a foot of snow and a bunch of ice...better now than after we get the work done.
 

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That's a great space!

If it were me ...

#1 Take out the tree. It's WAAAY to close to the building for my comfort, and eliminates any possibility of using that area (parking, wing shed roof, etc).

#2 Frame a 6' opening above the garage doors for access to the upstairs. This can be simply two 3' doors. Much easier to get materials/furnishings up there! Take the existing window to the other gable end so you now have 2 windows there.

#3 Gut as much as you can now. That means get to bare studs as much as possible very first thing. If you frame in a 6' opening for the upstairs, you can simply chuck the debris straight into a dumpster.

#4 Consider putting the "powder" room upstairs (under a dormer probably). Easier to plumb and maintain. "Slop/Shop" sink downstairs in that

I suspect when you open up the walls upstairs, you might be able to widen the space a bit (4' knee wall instead of the 6'? one there now). That and some dormers will give you a very nice "retreat" area!

I didn't see the dimensions of the building (looks to be 20' wide by ?? long). If ya also describe the location of the stairs and plumbing up through the slab, I'll model up a 3D rendition for ya ...
 
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Thanks to a wicked storm the new roof is being put in sooner than expected. So some of the work is able to get started sooner also.
Any thoughts on using corrugated tin as walls in a garage?
 

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Thanks to a wicked storm the new roof is being put in sooner than expected. So some of the work is able to get started sooner also.
Any thoughts on using corrugated tin as walls in a garage?

Be sure to incorporate some of the galvanized (zinc coated) metal strips in the roof. They will completely eliminate the moss growth. I used a galvanized roof peak vent when reroofing my cottage and the former moss problem has never returned.
 
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