Basement Outlets NY

[bannerd]

Long story short, building an ICF wall and running EMT inside the ICF. Outlets will come out of the wall and look like a regular house receptacles. Electrician ran a few outlets and then with the same wire went about fifteen feet and ran more outlets. This failed code, code enforcer said you cannot have outlets spaced four feet from each other on a 90 degree wall and you cannot extend from an existing outlet to others over 6ft.

My question is, what is proper to electrical code before I cut more holes in the icf that don't need to be there. The wall will be filled with concrete so I really don't want to make mistakes(weak spots).

Electrician is old school but he does really good clean work, I just want to make sure I don't run into any safety issues here.

 

[nadogail]

IMHO, Rather than pick a fight with the Inspector, which you are IMHO guaranteed to regret, politely ask the inspector questions such as "What do you suggest? or "how can this be fixed?.

I have found that Inspectors, who hold all the cards, are not always trying to be jerks. A little respect and willingness to compromise often works wonders.

 

[Jim greengo]

Pictures?

 

[Shiftless]

“ This failed code, code enforcer said you cannot have outlets spaced four feet from each other on a 90 degree wall and you cannot extend from an existing outlet to others over 6ft. ”


Is this really true anywhere except in this one guy’s mind? Why is that bad?


But like nadogail said, the inspectors hold all the cards. It is possible to fight and win but almost always unadvisable.


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[Bert_]

Ask for the code reference.

Just act like you're trying to learn even if you know you're right.

 

[dogdog]

Ask for the code reference.

Just act like you're trying to learn even if you know you're right.

I would agree with this suggestion.
This would be more logical to ask in a nicer manner. Dependents on what town or city in New York you are in and what codes they have adopted currently.
Some towns are not the latest or greatest. And some towns are run by “families” lol, some are just thugs. I can tell you stories from my own house remodels. What ever you do be nice and PC about it. it’s like a mob town sometimes. And you can’t do **** to them even if they are trolling you cause they think they don’t like you.

 

[Bretny]

How does the electrician not know the code?

 

[bannerd]

Hey all, we got this all fixed.

Sadly the electrician is no longer happy go lucky on this project and beer bribery+pay is out of the picture. Code is.. 24 inches from any sink or water and will need to have GFCI. Six feet from any door way or entry way. Outlets can NOT be no more than six feet from each other in any direction (This is a waste of wire here and we don't understand this..). They must be tamper resistant outlets (which has increased the cost of the project).

We got the run down and that is what he wants. I cant argue it but I think you all have a point, I would loose.

I was thinking there is 1 standard code but it sounds like it's whatever. Now I'm haunted by this because I see old and new homes with outlets right above sinks and right next to doors etc..gah!

 

[nadogail]

What was appropriate in old homes may no longer be acceptable under the current codes.

Code adoption and enforcement is not uniform.

 

[Jim greengo]

Hey all, we got this all fixed.

Sadly the electrician is no longer happy go lucky on this project and beer bribery+pay is out of the picture. Code is.. 24 inches from any sink or water and will need to have GFCI. Six feet from any door way or entry way. Outlets can NOT be no more than six feet from each other in any direction (This is a waste of wire here and we don't understand this..). They must be tamper resistant outlets (which has increased the cost of the project).

We got the run down and that is what he wants. I cant argue it but I think you all have a point, I would loose.

I was thinking there is 1 standard code but it sounds like it's whatever. Now I'm haunted by this because I see old and new homes with outlets right above sinks and right next to doors etc..gah!

Outlets cant be more than 6' from each other in any direction?

 

[Chris705]

I thought most all electrical inspections are via third party agency? Meaning, can’t a different inspector be called?

 

[sparky 1971]

Hey all, we got this all fixed.

Sadly the electrician is no longer happy go lucky on this project and beer bribery+pay is out of the picture. Code is.. 24 inches from any sink or water and will need to have GFCI. Six feet from any door way or entry way. Outlets can NOT be no more than six feet from each other in any direction (This is a waste of wire here and we don't understand this..). They must be tamper resistant outlets (which has increased the cost of the project).

We got the run down and that is what he wants. I cant argue it but I think you all have a point, I would loose.

I was thinking there is 1 standard code but it sounds like it's whatever. Now I'm haunted by this because I see old and new homes with outlets right above sinks and right next to doors etc..gah!

I believe you may have a crack smoking inspector. Ask for code references. The code says something along the lines of no point shall be more than 6 feet from a receptacle. That means they can't be more than 12' apart. Countertops is no point shall be more than two feet from a receptacle. meaning they can't be more than four feet apart.

 

[sparky 1971]

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