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LB-1911

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My 26yr old Toro recycler is starting need more and more every season. I getting to old and not enjoying the repairs anymore. Besides at 26yrs it doesn't owe me anything. Think i want go battery powered with prices rising daily. Can anyone tell about their experiences and brands. Trying to keep a budget under $600.
Have a local Toro Dealer? Then EGO.
You've been with Toro for 26 years, stick with Toro. I couldn't be happier with my Toro 60V self propelled. And it looks like a regular gas mower, not a space ship.

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My 26yr old Toro recycler is starting need more and more every season. I getting to old and not enjoying the repairs anymore. Besides at 26yrs it doesn't owe me anything. Think i want go battery powered with prices rising daily. Can anyone tell about their experiences and brands. Trying to keep a budget under $600.
I like the cordless stuff. Right now it's a 15 mile round trip drive to get fuel. We need our tank pump repaired or replaced
 

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I have seen some ads recently for Makita with 2 batteries for right around $600. Looks like a good value.

I have a 40V Ryobi that cost around $300 with battery a few years ago and would say it’s fine for a small yard like 1/4 acre (mine is much smaller). It is not what I would call a gas mower replacement. It is not heavy duty.
 

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Are you on a cordless tool platform? All the big cordless tool makers have mowers.

Makita has a line of battery powered mowers that use a pair of their standard 18V batteries. They are having the sale where you get a total of 4 batteries and a dual charger. It's like getting the mower for cheap. https://www.makitatools.com/ope/lxt
 

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So what are you going to do when they stop making those batteries in 4 years? Buy a new mower..
No such thing as an irreplaceable battery. While a manufacturer may stop making that particular battery, or that particular form of a battery, all rechargeable batteries are made up of easily replicated cores. Any decent electronics repair shop should be able to open the battery case and replace the components with new cells. Most hand tools are just a bunch of rechargeable AA size cells soldered together. Larger batteries may have different types of cells, but these cells should be replaceable many decades into the future. I have a 25 year old Black and Decker cordless drill with a dead battery that I could pull apart and get going as good as new if I wanted to. With more and more towns and cities banning new gas equipment, battery powered units are going to become the standard.
 

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A lot of battery rebuilders won't touch lithium-ion.

I went with Ego for a push mower because I had already purchased a bunch of other Ego stuff from a store that liquidates Home Depot returns. I got a self propelled mower at the end of the season for $150. I am 99% sure it was never taken out of the box and used. I don't like how the self propelled feature works as there is a delay. Hopefully this changed as mine is a 2017 or 2018 version. Very happy with the Ego stuff.
 

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Another beauty of the electric yard tools is the quiet! Here in Idaho, we've got daylight until 10pm this time of the year, and I have no qualms about going out at 9pm to mow the backyard. The EGO mower is so quiet the neighbors hear nothing!
 

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I have many GreenWorks tools. Two chain saws, two lawn mowers, and two string trimmers. These are used at my house and my warehouse in another town. Most are the 80V tools, the home lawnmower is the 60V model. At 62 years of age, I know a little something about the evolution of tools.

All of the corded lawn mowers I have owned in the past kept breaking on tough weeds or when I hit something like a rock. The battery-powered Greenworks lawnmower stops if I hit something solid, like a pipe sticking out of the ground. You just back up and restart it.

I used to rent a bushhog once a year to tackle the heavy weeds at my warehouse. Now I just use my 80V GreenWorks lawnmower. It can tackle the jobs that no other lawn mower can handle. I can pop a wheely with my lawn mower and attack 3/4" saplings. I have to go slow to do this, but if the motor stops, it easily restarts. No more bush hog rentals.

My Greenworks lawnmower senses the power needed and runs slower for normal grass, but runs faster for the denser grass. At my warehouse I regularly cut 3-4 foot tall grass and weeds. Sometimes I bag that tall grass if I am not trying to grow grass in that area. The GreenWorks 80V has never let me down.

Of all the lawn mowers I have used over the past 50 years, the Greenworks 80V is the best. The Greenworks 60V I have at home seems to be just as good, but I have only cut regular grass with it. My wife uses it too, and her girlfriend got her husband to buy one.

The Greenworks 60V and 80V tools are the same as the Kobalt tools sold at Lowes. The only difference is the kerfs on the side of the batteries making them incompatible, which can be accommodated if you have access to a table saw.
 

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That's a good question. As long as the plastic isn't too flimsy I think it would be an improvement. I've welded several patches over rust holes in my old metal deck mower.

I've never had rust on a metal deck. I do see that EGO makes models with steel decks, so I guess I could go that route if I decide on a battery mower. My Honda is only 8-ish years old, so I've still got a long time to decide...
 

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And you do not breathe in the pollution a gas powered mower produces and there is also less noise and vibration.

The "pollution" is the best part! The euphoric memories of smelling fresh cut grass with a slightly rich running mower are something I don't think I ever want to give up. And don't forget the smell of the gas you spilled while filling it up. Mmmmm!
I'll take that over piling up lithium batteries in the landfills any day...
 

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I have a small lawn 1500 sqf the gas mower was more than I needed and did not get in tight spots. I bought the Ryobi 13" runs on the same 18 volt batteries I already have.

It works way better than I expected for just a 4 ah 18 volt battery certainly not for big lawns but works great for my yard and QUIET. I discharge 1 and a half 4 ah batteries on average. Have had it for a year, one thing the blade needs to be sharp or batteries will run out fast, couple of swipes with a file is about all you need.
I also bought one for the places my zero turn can’t get into and it’s not a bad little mower. The quiet is nice.
 

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So life states from 5 to 10 years. now they state it can last longer if the batteries are conditioned properly and fully discharged before charging. I thought it was bad for a lithium battery to fully discharge? or am i wrong?
Its very bad for them to discharge past the minimum voltage on a lithium battery. Most cells are 3.6v nominal and can be charged to around 4.2v and discharged to 2.7 to 3.1 v depending on the cell. Longest life will be obtained by draining to this recommended minimum voltage. Most(or all) consumer tools using them now have protection circuitry to prevent them from being drained below that point. IE the tool shuts down.
 

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I've adopted the EGO line for my string trimmer and blower for 1 year and a half. The EGO batteries interchange and they have both been rock solid gear. The blower is more powerful than my old temperamental mixed gas Ryobi, and the string trimmer has a self wind feature that makes replacing line an easy task. No more mixing gas and no more taking the spool apart to string new line! I don't own the EGO mower because I still have a one pull Honda that's just over 20 years old and going strong! When that mower dies, I'll go with the EGO model without hesitation!
 

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Honda uses plastic decks on their high end push mowers. I never had any issues with the plastic deck on my Honda push mower over a dozen years.
 

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Just remember one thing.. 100% of batteries fail, if you think you are going to get 26 more years of service out of a battery powered lawn mower, not going to happen.

I'm certain that I'm not going to get 26 more years of service from my worn out old body so that's not a concern. If I can squeeze out 10 years that'll probably be more than enough.
 

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Funny how this popped up in my suggested videos last night....
I am invested in the M18 line too


 

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The "pollution" is the best part! The euphoric memories of smelling fresh cut grass with a slightly rich running mower are something I don't think I ever want to give up. And don't forget the smell of the gas you spilled while filling it up. Mmmmm!
I'll take that over piling up lithium batteries in the landfills any day...
I totally agree, I sure miss my 2-stroke weed eater. I would run my left over maxima castor oil mixed gas in it and feel/smell like I was riding the YZ while I was trimming the yard. I even put a little in the lawnmower once just to see if it would smell great too, it was too smoky so I stopped doing that but the trimmer sure smelled great. Cut grass and 2-stroke!
 
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Bought the Milwaukee a couple weeks ago. I'm heavily invested in the Milwaukee platform hence my decision to go with Milwaukee. This is for our cottage property old gas mower died and i was going to ruin the honda gas mower transporting it back and forth on the rough gravel road in the back of the pickup. Bonus is the Milwaukee dual charger gets charged by solar. Very happy with it so far and was surprised to see it has a metal deck.
 

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I have the 21" ego walk behind. It's about 4 years old and has worked fine. The main battery is getting wonky and will need replacing. EGO does not offer a battery rebuild service and the replacement batteries are very expensive. I have the blower and string trimmer as well. All work very well.

I bought one clone battery off of amazon which has worked OK and one replacement EGO battery for the blower. I also bought a few failed EGO batteries off of ebay, which i intend to repair and make one functional battery from several, by salvaging the good cells.

EGO is good equipment but their battery support needs improvement, IMO. They should offer a reasonable price for an exchanged battery - mail in your old one as the core and get a reman back at 50% of cost or something.
 

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Lets say i get 5 years out of the EGO before having to replace batteries. in those 5 years i would have spent on replacing belts every year.

Cost me 80 for the pto belt. $120 for oil, sparkplug and filter. plus any other maintenance i need to do. 200x5 is $1000. Plus $6 a gallon and i fill a 5gallon tank every mow of 4 acres....

new set of 6 batteries at 179 per battery $1079.00 would be my only maintenance besides sharpening the blade.

I will take my chances replacing batteries
Really? I've replaced a belt maybe every 6-10 years on my Kubota and I mow 1.75 acres of rough hills, sweetgum balls, rocks, and roots. Sparkplug is good for 5-10 years these days. 2 quarts of oil and a $6 filter every year, and an air filter.
 

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My brother in law is the type to send in his snowblower or lawn tractor for a "tune up" every season change. He asked me what I do about my gas powered equipment. I said, "only use premium gas, drain the carb when not in use, change the oil every other season, keep the air filter clean, that's about it." He says "you don't get it tuned up?" Nope, no need to do it, just basic maintenance.

A "tune up" is basically an oil change and a new spark plug, make sure the carb linkages are clean and lubed. Modern small gas engines have no points. If the coil or plug cap doesn't fail there is PLENTY of energy to the plug (like 50,000 volts), and if the plug is not fouled there is no need to replace it. The flywheel gap to the coil doesn't change over time. My snowblower and lawn mover start easily and quickly every time.
 

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I have the original Greenworks 21" mower, trimmer, blower and pole saw that I bought in 2017. The trimmer is flimsy and kind of junk, everything else has held up well for the 6 or so years I've had it.
The polesaw continues to be amazingly useful. The plastic on the mower has faded, but never had a problem with it. The blower blows air so can't complain...
 

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Really? I've replaced a belt maybe every 6-10 years on my Kubota and I mow 1.75 acres of rough hills, sweetgum balls, rocks, and roots. Sparkplug is good for 5-10 years these days. 2 quarts of oil and a $6 filter every year, and an air filter.
Wow, similar landscape here and my craftsman ride on mower goes through one a month or so but Kubota is on a different level so maybe its that.
 

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Another vote for Greenworks. I have a 21" push mower, weed eater, and leaf blower. The leaf blower is my favorite, I use it all the time. I have no issues with any of the tools in the 2 years I've had them so far. The best part about the mower is I don't smell like exhaust fumes and it is super quiet.
 

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Before buying an electric powered mower, especially a rider, and especially a Ryobi ZTR, check this out:

His videos are all good, and funny in a dry sort of way.

Did not watch the video yet………but………..the don’t buy recommendation is not surprising.

edit: watched the video….
Its always in the details………how many buyers thought they were getting lithium batteries when they purchased the EV a mower POS for $5k. Appears the EV mower makers went that school of exaggerated range like the car guys.
 
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Let's face it, it's a $5000 lawn mower. So if you want one, fine. No sane person would expect to put that up against its competition in that price range. At least I wouldn't think so. But if you can afford it, and you like it, then it's great.
 

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Well, his only real complain is the lead acid batteries crapping out after a year which does not sound normal.
High load, long run time………that might be hard on the batteries……….NOT hard to believe.

Kinda like the early days of battery powered tools with Nicad batteries……..they worked, but not well and the batteries were junk by today’s standards. Nickel metal were not much better.
 

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High load, long run time………that might be hard on the batteries……….NOT hard to believe.

Kinda like the early days of battery powered tools with Nicad batteries……..they worked, but not well and the batteries were junk by today’s standards. Nickel metal were not much better.
I remember reading that they went that route to keep the costs down.

I did not think about how smart that was not at least from a consumer standpoint.

If my memory serves me right they used the same batteries they use in wheelchairs and golf carts but like you said the environment a mower operates is quite different from that.
 

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The other thing on the $5000 EV zero turns and keeping cost down…….these are NOT commercial grade mowers.

The plain Jane Home Depot 23 HP gas zero turns are $2600-$3200…….so ther’s a real early adopter tax on EV zero turns. Not saying the Plain Jane are the answer……many prior posts on buying better especially in the GJ …….got to go first class.

Same with push battery push mowers…..Milwaukee is $1100. Some have light duty lower power ( watt hours) for $400-$500. Then the better units with more power jump to $700-850.

All tractors or zero turn mowers have a maintenance issue with blade spindle bearings. Harsh environment dust, sand, dirt, mud, water, strike point and very high loads. Thinking ahead the EV zero turn mower now places several brushless motor(s) $$$ in the spindle environment . Is that motor serviceable (bearing and seals) ? That save on PTO and deck belt……will it work over the longer haul ?
 

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Battery powered mowers are disposable.

I don't disagree with the other items you've mentioned, but we (Honda) are working on a battery powered mower that will feel familiar to those that already own and use our mowers, and we won't be treating them as disposable from a warranty/maintenance standpoint. Even the battery will be serviceable on its own.

*just thought you and others might want to know
 

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In the video he makes a good point that lead acid batteries don't like long deep discharge cycles. Once they get below 50% charge level they drop off faster. Like he said, rated for 2 acres of mowing, actually gets about 1/2 acre of real mowing.

You'd think a company like Ryobi with so much history in battery operated devices would have known better than to put lead-acid batteries in a higher cost item like a ZTR. I bet they have a lot of people calling complaining about their ZTR not performing as expected. Especially since many of the buyers likely don't have the knowledge base a lot of us on this website possess.
 

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I've got an older (1999) Dixon 60 inch commercial zero turn that I bought used that I'm hoping to get a few more years out of, but pretty much every part is obsolete, so if anything major fails, its done for. When it finally breaks, I plan on buying a electric Zero Turn to mow my 1 acre. I really like the new Ryobi 54". No more broken belts.
Better be sure to check out the reviews on the Ryobis. You might not like what you see. Hint, hint.
 

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Better be sure to check out the reviews on the Ryobis. You might not like what you see. Hint, hint.
Maybe he is talking about the upcoming one with lithium batteries.


For what its worth I have a 5ish year old ryobi lithium battery powered push mower which I admit is flimsy especially compared to an all steel gas powered one but I still have not managed to kill it even I do not go easy on it.
 
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