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pudgybear

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I know its been discussed before but then i was not interested - **** now i am, Is it a good/bad idea to leave the battery in charger when i am not using the tool, will it lower the life of the battery if i leave it on the charger?
 
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quattroJoe

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Any lithium battery charger will have circuitry to monitor charge level and cut current when the battery is fully charged. NiCad chargers are a different story, and the included instructions usually tell you not to leave the battery on the charger when it is done.
 

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All of my chargers are plugged into power strips. These are then plugged into a light timer. I have the timer set to charge for 7 hours then it turns off, cutting the power to the power strips.
The timer is plugged into the power strip in the box.
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When I need to charge a battery I just set the timer and turn it on. It turns off automatically so there are no worries about over-charging. :)
Mark
 
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spoon671

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Lithium ion has circuitry inside, as quattroJoe mentions. When fully charged, the charger stops providing power to the battery. I've left lithium ion batteries on the charger for a weekend at a time no worries. It doesn't get hot or anything, just stops charging.
 

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All of my chargers are plugged into power strips. These are then plugged into a light timer. I have the timer set to charge for 7 hours then it turns off, cutting the power to the power strips.

VERY SMART ! I would probably have the timer set to run about 2-4 every day.

I don't care what other say, this will maximize your battery life.
 
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Ign

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Others here have said to not leave li-ion batteries on the charger, and don't take them to a full state of discharge where the tool cuts out. Allegedly maximum battery life is achieved by not always keeping them 100% topped off and not taking them down too far, including as far as the protections.

I don't know this to be true, merely relaying info I recall - - info which indeed may not be completely accurate.

For me, I always seem to have far more batteries than I need, and I don't have time to track what's charging when for how long. Trying to keep track of my M12 batteries in particular would literally require that I take 10-15 min each morning to do the rotation and note it. So, I'm simply not concerned with achieving OPTIMUM battery life.

By the time my present batteries die there will certainly be another kit I want to buy, or new amp-hour technology I'll want.
 

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I also run a multi-strip on a light timer but I removed the "On" tab from mine so the chargers won't be turned on everyday.

So I turn my dial to how many hours I want to charge and then turn the timer on manually.

I don't even know if this is possible with the new type of light timers.

I have done this since they days I only had Ni-Cad batteries. I have all lithium-ion now but continue to do so because I also charge the battery for my boys Power Wheels vehicle on it. I don't know if it's true but I've heard the batteries can catch fire if left charging too long.
 

Joe B.

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Lithium ion has circuitry inside, as quattroJoe mentions. When fully charged, the charger stops providing power to the battery. I've left lithium ion batteries on the charger for a weekend at a time no worries. It doesn't get hot or anything, just stops charging.

^^^^This^^^^

I have the old Craftsman 20v drill & circular saw. I bought them probably 7 years ago and I think they discontinued that line 4 or 5 years ago. The instruction made it clear that the circuitry took care of making sure a proper charging process was followed. I'm sure anything newer from a real brand would be the same. Over the last seven years, one or the other of the two batteries has been on the charger 24 hrs a day 365 days a year. No problems at all and I can't see a reason to unplug them.
 

Frank Dukes

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all i can speak to is dewalt nicad 18v stuff and it states it is fine to leave it on the charger as it stops charging it on its own. biggest thing with batteries seems to be avoiding extreme hot and cold temps. speaking of which i need to move mine to the basement for the winter soon.
 

spoon671

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Also, the protection circuitry inside lithium-ion keeps the battery from discharging too low as well.

My current Milwaukee 18v setups will run full speed and strength until next thing you know the power cuts out completely. It's not like the older technologies that you can feel the battery getting weaker and weaker. IIRC the Bosch lithium-ion setups I had previously did the same as well.
 

FMC1959

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Just Lithium based tools and I take it out when I remember, usually within a day, sometimes days go by before I check. Most batteries have pretty sophisticated circuitry these days. My Makita LXT batteries, if I bring to a dealer, they can check how many cycles it has gone through by plugging it in.

My experience has been that batteries that go many months without use can have issues, batteries left in the charger have not given me problems.

When I get a battery, first thing I do is grab a Sharpie and write the date I got it, that way if one goes dead, I know if it is 6 months old (defect) or 5+ years old (normal).

I have Makita LXT (9 batteries), M12 (11 batteries), Ryobi (6 Batteries) and a couple of 12v Ridgid. I have a system that I have trained the girlfriend on also. All batteries are lined up by brand on a shelf. Anything that gets charged goes to the back of the line once charged. Need a battery, always the first one, rotation is very important to have them last long. A battery at the front lying on its side was used and put back, example, my drywall screwdriver, circ saw. Only a couple of popular tools like drill and impact always have a battery, everything else, battery comes out after use.

Something important that applies to all batteries, tools, laptops, phones...etc. They all have a given life in charging cycles. I have seen many people with pones or tablets have it drained, stick it on the charger. AT 40% charged remove it because they needed it, then put it back later. This is now 2 cycles. Also recharging when it is down to 40-50% left, again, you are using a cycle. I know this is less of an issue with tools as most will have spares, but I believe you shouldn't charge them till they are 10% or less, and once charging, don't remove them till they are complete.
 
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