Bedliner as floor cover?

[Chris Adams]

I'm looking at my options on floor coating, leaning between EPO Coat H3H, Epoxy-Master at Costco, or possibly Rustoleum solvent based at Home Depot.

Pros and Cons on these three, but I just wondered if anyone had ever used truck bed liner on a floor?

We had some we used to make a factory like coating for the trunk of a restored car, and when some was left over we coated a Craftsman Industrial tool box with it. Which worked AWSOME. Box looks better than it did new, the finish is non-slip and solid as a rock.

So what about shooting it on a floor? Anything that bonds to painted steel so well would probably bond to concrete, and I have seen some bed-liners mention working well on concrete but would it be practical?
Cost might be an issue, but then, it's an issue with the premium coatings.
Color selection is probably weak, but I do seem to recall a light gray, with white flecks in the catalog at the paint supply where we bought the stuff we used.

Anyone ever tried it? Anyone have any idea how it would work?
Thanks

 

[dipper]

I believe there is a division of Rhino-liner that does floors. Maybe do a websearch on Rhino Liner. I may have read it on GJ too.

 

[wrhenker]

How about Carefree Coatings? It is the same, if not better than Rhino, but costs less. Funny, I actually noticed someone covered their whole Jeep with a nice Maroon color from carefree. The fenders and undercarriage were done in black, but the whole thing looked like it was covered in frost! They do have plenty of colors and they actually advertise doing floors! Just make sure the floor is so clean you can eat off it for adhesion! Check it out!

 

[XR80David]

Why would you want to use something for a bedliner that isn't even made for concrete? Go with the EPO Coat H3H, you won't be disappointed. That is what I did. Don't settle for the cheap box stores that sell Rustoleum, etc. Do it right the first time. I learned this by using Rustoleum, Seal-Krete etc. and I kick myself now thinking why didn't I just use the EPO Coat H3H the first time around... Simply said, don't mess with the cheap and get the good stuff and prepare it right and don't get in a rush as it is exciting.

 

[Chris Adams]

How about Carefree Coatings? It is the same, if not better than Rhino, but costs less. Funny, I actually noticed someone covered their whole Jeep with a nice Maroon color from carefree. The fenders and undercarriage were done in black, but the whole thing looked like it was covered in frost! They do have plenty of colors and they actually advertise doing floors! Just make sure the floor is so clean you can eat off it for adhesion! Check it out!

I will. We have a 'bedliner' Jeep in my area too. Dark color, with spots. Very cool and I've seen him off road with it, but no brush scratches, or scrapes of any kind. May talk to him, if I can catch him.

 

[Chris Adams]

Why would you want to use something for a bedliner that isn't even made for concrete? Go with the EPO Coat H3H, you won't be disappointed. That is what I did. Don't settle for the cheap box stores that sell Rustoleum, etc. Do it right the first time. I learned this by using Rustoleum, Seal-Krete etc. and I kick myself now thinking why didn't I just use the EPO Coat H3H the first time around... Simply said, don't mess with the cheap and get the good stuff and prepare it right and don't get in a rush as it is exciting.

Well, may do that, as mentioned in your thread.
The bedliner material is pretty fantastic though. I love the box, no dings, no marks and it gets the worse usage of any of my seven rollaways. Even got bumped by my Tracker a couple months ago. Wife hit it hard enough to roll, but we can't see where she hit it... I mean TOUGH.

The big attraction on the stuff, you shoot it on with a sprayer. Doing the floor would take just a few minutes, after prep of course.
It also has a sort of rough surface, not hard to clean but very much non-slip. I like that.
Still, probably going with the H3H, but I was curious if anyone had done it with the liner.

 

[agoogol]

The local Rhino installer guy in CO quoted me $3/sq ft for solid color, $4.25 sq ft. for flecked type....This included floor grinding prep etc and was for a 400 sq ft 2 car garage.

 

[litljay]

It looks like Rhino Linings have sprayed concrete before...if that's what you're interested in.

I wish Line X was more mobile...

 

[rwhite692]

Slightly off topic, but on the subject of bedliner over concrete:

I remember reading a blurb in one of the industrial trade journals that one of the well-known bedliner companies (I can't remember which one) had secured a us government contract to spray-coat the insides/outsides of various concrete buildings in high-security areas in Iraq.

Apparently, tests were done which showed that when subjected to ordnance/bomb blast conditions, the walls of treated buildings tended to stay together in a big broken heap, as opposed to the untreated concrete walls which generated more projectiles of broken concrete, doing more damage over a larger area.

 

[Bojans]

I would think the texture of a deb coating would make it very hard to sweep clean.

 

[TAMPAGT07]

How about designing your garage to look like the bed of a giant pick-up. Would probably work better in a single car garage. Paint the front of the garage to look like the rear window. Paint the walls half way up, and get rid of the garage door, and make a door that folds down like a tailgate, and up like a topper window...Too cool. I wanna see it.

The problem I would have here in Florida, is that I would come home and find a bunch of rednecks laying around in the garage, with a bunch of beer cans laying allaround.

 

[scottalbi]

TAMPAGT07, love the avatar!

 

[TAMPAGT07]

TAMPAGT07, love the avatar!

Thank You...Everybody loves "Beaker"

 

[wingnutthehutt]

I am moving into a new house and was thinking about having the garage floor Line-X coated as well. I was ecstatic when I saw this post this morning.

Yes, sweeping would be more difficult, but the traction and protection is second to none.

This video actually shows it being sprayed onto the floor of some sort of building.

 

[rwhite692]

Wingnutt, that video is exactly what I was referring to, in my post above....Thanks for posting the link.

 

[nate379]

I think it would be really annoying to roll a creeper on it and sweep it. It would be like working on semi-rough asphalt.

Bed line is ok tough but it's not bulletproof by any means. I had my truck done about 2 years ago and it's peeled up in a couple spots. (I use my truck bed though)

Also cost would be up there I'd imagine. Look at a truck bed that is around 40sq ft and your looking at 400-500 for coating that. A garage floor would be in the 1000s of $$$s

 

[wingnutthehutt]

I think the look would be great, and the protection of the floor would probably be top notch. However, I agree with Nate about the possibility of peeling. Even if you go with Line-X brand coating, if you drop something sharp on it, it will probably penetrate.

I think a good analogy would be the difference between a bulletproof and a stabproof vest. They are designed to take different kinds of impacts.

~Carl

 

[Markgyver]

We spec alot of concrete coating and waterproofing membranes at work. Most are not recomended to use on Slab on Grade concrete because the moisture cant escape and will eventually cause the coating to debond and bubble.

 

[Chris Adams]

I think it would be really annoying to roll a creeper on it and sweep it. It would be like working on semi-rough asphalt.

Bed line is ok tough but it's not bulletproof by any means. I had my truck done about 2 years ago and it's peeled up in a couple spots. (I use my truck bed though)

Also cost would be up there I'd imagine. Look at a truck bed that is around 40sq ft and your looking at 400-500 for coating that. A garage floor would be in the 1000s of $$$s

Cost is not much. I have a buddy who sprays it. I think we paid about 80 bucks for 50 square foot coverage. Cheaper in bulk.

On the pealing, if I understand the thousand or so posts I've read on pealing, it would imply the surface wasn't prepped enough. Concrete grabs a heck of a lot better than truck bed paint so that may not be a problem.
Bullet proof, it isn't. It is pellet proof. We tried it on a test chunk of body panel with a .177 spring cocker. It bounced the pellets nicely. We were thinking of making an indoor pellet catcher wall for when we miss the target box...
The stuff we used on the tool box has a rough, but not real rough surface. You can slide your hand over it, feels like rough concrete, sorta.

I think the look would be great, and the protection of the floor would probably be top notch. However, I agree with Nate about the possibility of peeling. Even if you go with Line-X brand coating, if you drop something sharp on it, it will probably penetrate.

I think a good analogy would be the difference between a bulletproof and a stab proof vest. They are designed to take different kinds of impacts.

~Carl

So what happens when you drop a sharp object on Epoxy? My neighbors it cuts through to the concrete, and then when it turns over, it pulls up a chunk of epoxy.
The bedliner is actually epoxy, so I think it might react about the same as any other epoxy.

Different reactions based on velocity is normal for any substance.
Want a good weird one?
Shoot at a sheet of plexiglass.
A fast bullet makes a tiny round hole.
A slow bullet shatters chunks.
300 W Mag puts a .308 hole in it. A 22 short will shatter a huge area.
I don't think bedliner would be LESS resilient than lower priced epoxy. Still, don't know, and may not try it. Just thinking about it.

We spec alot of concrete coating and waterproofing membranes at work. Most are not recomended to use on Slab on Grade concrete because the moisture cant escape and will eventually cause the coating to debond and bubble.

Epoxy coatings like sold everywhere I have looked also won't let moisture escape.
They are ALL water proof, heck, they use them inside tanks to keep liquid in.
I think any Epoxy will seal water in.


Lots of good points.

 

[nate379]

Materials aren't too bad, but if you are paying a guy to do it it's a different story of course.

$80 for 50 sq ft of material would be somewhere in the $1000 area for an average sized 2 car garage stll.

 

[Chris Adams]

Materials aren't too bad, but if you are paying a guy to do it it's a different story of course.

$80 for 50 sq ft of material would be somewhere in the $1000 area for an average sized 2 car garage stll.

True, but the shop we bought it from wants me wire up their network, and the guy that does it is a buddy. His 'charge' is usually getting me to fix something, or letting him borrow my garage for a job.


We did estimate I could do my 672 foot shop for about 600 bucks, with the huge discount they are offering me (since I will be doing the network between their two stores) and my buddy doing the job for about nothing.

I could spray it myself, not rocket science, but why do it when I have a pro who will help.


Again, I probably won't do it, just wanted some thoughts on it.

 

[RobSmith]

At work they had Rhino Coating put down on an acid loading bay, concrete, the moisture deep inside the concrete then came to the surface and caused the liner to blister. 2" and larger blisters. Hard though I couldn't bust them.