Behr primer & paint all-in-one

[sammerdog]

Hey guys -

So at one of my jobs I finished taping and mudding drywall in a 20'x20' garage (oops, "storage building #2"). For paint, the owner grabbed a 5 gallon bucket of Behr primer & paint all in one. I've seen the ads on TV and thought "that ain't gonna work".

Wow - I'm a convert. It went on smoothly, hid the handful of imperfections in my sanding, and looks really good. I'm going to hit it with a second coat Monday morning, let 'er dry. Baseboards and electric Tuesday, then it's getting filled up.

It'll be interesting to see how it holds up come this winter (unheated building, Michigan), but so far it seems like a good paint option. I'm a die-hard Lucite user - Pittsburgh Paint's entry level latex - for garages.

Any of you guys try the all-in-one stuff yet?

 

[Uncle Buck]

First I have heard of it, I am lazy enough to love the idea though!

 

[fasteddie24]

My wife and I were wondering about that stuff. We always use Behr, less spatter and better coverage. Thanks for being a guinea pig.

 

[Gunslinger]

We used it on our patio cover. It's held up great for the last 18 months.....

 

[ddawg16]

I've looked at that stuff as well....but I have had such good results with the Killz II and I'm using about 4 different colors....I went the long way.

I too just finished my painting last night....at least most of it....

The ceiling has a thin coat of texture paint on it....I used a heavy nap roller to apply....it gives it just enough roughness to hit the defects (mud and tape up high is not fun) and it breaks the light reflections up a bit....it's then covered with High Gloss bright white...

BTW...I used exterior paint in the garage.....should be a bit more durable....

The walls have two different colors...light and med gray with a semi gloss exterior paint (Behr). My cabinets are going to be gray so it should make for a nice contrast.

I have a dark gray paint to paint the 8" stub wall below the drywall.

The floor is just going to be sealed with concrete sealer.....but that will have to happen tomorrow....right now we have to get ready to go on a harbor cruise to celibrate a friends birthday....then this evening we have a sushi party to go to.....won't get much done today....

One of the nice things now is that I can start bolting things up into place for good....so tired of moving stuff around and having things hanging down in the way.....

 

[GrantMLS]

Yup - used it a lot over the last year or 2 its been out.. Always been a behr paint fan..

 

[Gary S]

Why a second coat on Monday? If it is anything special, it won't need it. I painted the OSB in my garage with one coat of oil base primer and followed that with one coat of interior latex. The OSB is as nice and white as any paint could get it.

 

[Jay H 237]

I've seen the commercials for it and was wondering about it. Good to know it works.

 

[e-tek]

It expensive tho - $85 a gallon up here!!!

 

[e-tek]

.right now we have to get ready to go on a harbor cruise to celibrate a friends birthday....then this evening we have a sushi party to go to.....

sushi party - how VERY Kalifornian!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jhn9840]

Painted the hallway and bed room with it last summer. Goes on smooth as silk. I used the same colors not sure how well it would work if you were making a change.

jhn9840
John

 

[stricht8]

I've also used it and it does flow well as do all Behr paints.

 

[cm2677]

I used it to cover some god awful ugly *** blue paint that was in an office for my wife. First coat did the trick. I am going to try it in my bedroom when I repaint that.

 

[porschedude996TT]

I painted my new shop with this product. I choose the Semi-Gloss over my newly textured (Orange Peel). I had the drywall guy paint with a Prep-Coat between the drywall and the texture coat. I was supose to even out the color differences between the drywall which is kinda gray and the drywall mud which is a warm white. It made a difference. The shop is 30' x 40' with 10' walls and a vaulted ceiling. As far as coverage, I guess because of the semi-gloss that the coverage is not as good as the eggshell. Anyway it took 30gals to paint two coats. They ran out of 5gal pails and I bought 4 each 5 gal pails and 10 1 gal cans. $$$

The attached picture is what it took to paint my 30 x 40 shop. Drywal was Pre-Prep Primed between the drywal and the texture coat and then it took two coats of Behr Ulta Paint with Primer to get coverage.

 

[tcianci]

Personally, I think that the move to this type of paint is a side step to an eventuality: Paint retailers will probably be forced at some point to take back paint for recycling.

For years, paint retailers have been selling primers "tinted toward the final color" in an effort, quite sucessful, I might add, to sell twice as much paint as you need for a project. When you're done, you have left over paint and left over primer. The paint may be useful in a touch up and the primer is good for nothing.

Unless you have a specific reason for using a primer i.e. stain blocking or adhesion promoting, grey under red, etc., many existing paints go on just fine and stand up well without a primer.
This should open a feisty can of worms from pro painters everywhere, so lets hear your opinions.
I have mixed results with the Behr products, sometimes I'm impressed, sometimes I'm disgusted

 

[Costner]

Unless you have a specific reason for using a primer i.e. stain blocking or adhesion promoting, grey under red, etc., many existing paints go on just fine and stand up well without a primer.

I would agree primer isn't needed everywhere, although if you are painting a fresh wall (drywall that has never been painted) it is a necessity to seal the wall. If you are painting over a room that has already been painted then it might not be necessary depending upon the color change.

The only other thing about primer is that it ensures your color looks the same on the wall as it does on the paint sample. If you paint half of a wall in primer and leave the other half as it was, and then you paint over the entire wall with a new color, I can almost promise you that you will see a slight color variation from side to side.

You do bring up a good point about having leftover paint and primer however - that is one negative about tinting the primer as that primer can never be used for a different color. However in my experience I have found one coat of tinted primer and one top coat is often enough whereas it might take two top coats with no primer - so either way I'm painting the wall twice... might as well do it right.

That said, I would be very interested to try this Behr all in one product. I've heard nothing bad about any Behr paint so if this is as good as their regular stuff it might just be the ticket.

 

[Coach James]

I use a self priming barn paint from Lowes for a lot of outside stuff like dog house, fence posts etc. Stuff I painted four years ago still looks good.

Coach

 

[Kevin54]

My buddy just used it to repaint rooms in his house that were, accoding to him, some "loud colors". He swears by the paint. One coat and he said everything was covered.

 

[Stargeezer]

So if you take a Gallon of kilz and mix it with a gallon of behr ext semi-gloss you get a self priming paint that covers in one coat? Is that what this stuff is? I know it is cheaper than a bunch of coats-but don't understand exactly what a primer/paint is???

Our method on our shop with bare heavily textured drywall was to coat twice with kilz II, caulk all the corners and edges, and then apply one heavy coat of ext semi-gloss color and it worked out fine. Looks perfectly covered, colors are rich and even.

 

[sammerdog]

So if you take a Gallon of kilz and mix it with a gallon of behr ext semi-gloss you get a self priming paint that covers in one coat? Is that what this stuff is? I know it is cheaper than a bunch of coats-but don't understand exactly what a primer/paint is???

Our method on our shop with bare heavily textured drywall was to coat twice with kilz II, caulk all the corners and edges, and then apply one heavy coat of ext semi-gloss color and it worked out fine. Looks perfectly covered, colors are rich and even.

^^^^^^^ Yeah, that's what I've always done with fresh drywall (but just one coat of Kilz). This stuff dried over the weekend and looked good. Could have just left it like that and called it good I suppose. There was a good two gallons left over from the initial painting, so the owner said go ahead and put up a second coat. Did that and it looks real decent.

Again, a whole different method to me, but I kinda like it.

...and the owner found it on the "wrong mixed color" clearance area at HD and bought it cheap. It's biege. beige? baije? beije?....


....it's light tan.

 

[pipehack]

I refuse to paint... My wife is really good at it. She swears by Behr...Good stuff.

 

[Stargeezer]

^^^^^^^ ...and the owner found it on the "wrong mixed color" clearance area at HD and bought it cheap. It's biege. beige? baije? beije?....
....it's light tan.

Oh that is called "Ooops Paint". We just bought a 5 gallon pail of $114.00 siding/masonry "ooops paint" for only $25.00 at Lowe's. It was a rich brown and looks fine on the newly-sided wood shed. This paint is elastomeric (Rubbery) and is tough when dry. We gave the pre-primed T111 siding two coats since it was so cheap. Used the rest on the block foundation of the new water tank house. Ooops paint rocks @ $5.00 a gallon!

I'd still like to know more about the science behind the self priming paint!