Bench Vise Help

[tt455]

Hi guys.
I have a Wilton bench vise, I don't see a model # though there are numbers on certain parts. On the base jaw is 111146. Any way the spindle threads into the receiver fine and closes the jaw, but upon opening it only the spindle comes out. I'm missing something to bring the jaw out, possibly the crescent clip? Not sure what part and where it may go. Maybe someone has a similar model or knowledge of vises that can point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance. Tom

 

[drivesitfar]

TT: see the slot in the piece where the screw goes into the part holding the handle? there should be a retainer like this horseshoe piece on my Wilton bullet vises. i'll let somebody else that has your particular vise post pictures or do you have that piece to screw into the dynamic jaw?

Part #2 in the Wilton bullet drawing i posted a picture of and the horseshoe shaped part.

 

[balane]

That vise doesn't use a typical horseshoe collar.

There should be a little metal tab that's squarish in shape with one edge having a rounded concave. The metal tab will have a hole for the screw. It goes under the handle in the cutout provided on the cast iron nose piece. If you don't have it one is easy to make. I attached a rough drawing of what the clip looks like. It should be slightly thinner than the groove in your spindle.

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[balane]

A photo may help.

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[tt455]

Yeah I don't have the horse shoe clip or retainer, but still that would have to go into the jaw sleeve somehow and connect to the spindle right? It can't go in that groove by the handle because it does not go to the inside of the jaw hole.
Yes I have a hole under the handle but it looks as if the screw broke off in that hole. There is also a hole on both sides of the front sleeve where the spindle enters.
Where can I get the parts?

 

[tt455]

Oh I see that tab must hold the retainer and clip?

 

[balane]

Look at the second photo. It screws into the dynamic jaw at the bottom and the rounded part slides up into the spindle's groove which keeps it from sliding out.

 

[balane]

I made one once, it was easy. Just get a piece of scrap sheet metal the correct thickness and cut it to size. For the rounded part just touch it on your bench grinder until one side is rounded down. It's not really a precision or high stress piece so it won't need to precisely match the original. It only needs to fit and not restrict the handle spinning. You'll need to drill out the broken bolt though.

 

[drivesitfar]

TT: we are guessing that your vise didn't work before you took it apart or did you just misplace that part? like Balane said it's not a tough fix and Wilton might even still sell you a new part for a few bucks if you are not quite as handy as Balane that might have restored hundreds of vises.

good luck

 

[tt455]

I made one once, it was easy. Just get a piece of scrap sheet metal the correct thickness and cut it to size. For the rounded part just touch it on your bench grinder until one side is rounded down. It's not really a precision or high stress piece so it won't need to precisely match the original. It only needs to fit and not restrict the handle spinning. You'll need to drill out the broken bolt though.

Thank you again,Yes I see I think I can handle that, but I still need the horse shoe clip right, or do I just need the square clip. I'm not sure if the crescent goes into the groove behind the handle or on the other side of the spindle hidden in the jaw sleeve?
Sorry for the questions, but I never had those parts.

 

[tt455]

TT: we are guessing that your vise didn't work before you took it apart or did you just misplace that part? like Balane said it's not a tough fix and Wilton might even still sell you a new part for a few bucks if you are not quite as handy as Balane that might have restored hundreds of vises.

good luck

Thanks, I got the vise at a swap meet last year. I never really tested it till I got home, that's when I realized it didn't work. I let it sit and just recently looked into it by taking it apart and cleaning it up. So to answer your question I did not have those parts what you see is what I got, that's why I'm not sure where all these parts go. Thanks again.

 

[balane]

There is no horsehoe collar on this vise. The clip I showed you is the only part that keeps the spindle in place and it works just fine. Make or locate that simple piece and you'll be good to go.

 

[drivesitfar]

TT: i was just showing you another Wilton vise to give you an example until the expert/pro (Balane) showed up. you are in good hands because he can probably walk you through it if you have a little skill and he has the time.

the horseshoe part i mentioned is what Wilton uses on their more expensive bullet vise line.

good luck

 

[tt455]

Ok, thanks guys I really appreciate the help and quick responses. I'll let you know how I make out.

 

[tt455]

OK, here it is in Pontiac Blue,such a simple idea, thanks so much guys. I took a piece of left over metal from when I welded floors in my car cut it and grinded it drilled a hole through it and drilled out the old screw, threaded it and though maybe a little crude it works great.
Now my next project is this Rock Island vise which I'd like to put on a homemade stand, maybe an old steel wheel for a base? Tom

 

[drivesitfar]

TT: it looks like it works so maybe paint the new part and the screw head and you have a nice working Wilton vise to mount on your bench or sell. you mentioned that there was something in the screw's hole or where you talking about a different hole? i thought there might have needed some drilling and or tapping involved and it looks like its done now.

good work and nice assist Balane.

 

[tt455]

TT: it looks like it works so maybe paint the new part and the screw head and you have a nice working Wilton vise to mount on your bench or sell. you mentioned that there was something in the screw's hole or where you talking about a different hole? i thought there might have needed some drilling and or tapping involved and it looks like its done now.

good work and nice assist Balane.

Yes I had to drill and tap the hole under the handle that holds the clip. Just painted the new part and screw blue also, thanks for the input it does look better.