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Bendpak HD-9 constructed....just needs 240v power...electrical questions+misc

The Wizard

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Fellow garage enthusiasts,

I recently bought and installed a Bendpak HD-9 four post lift. All it needs is some power and it will be alive!

First, is this a DIY job? I've received estimates in the $400 range but would like to do it myself for multiple reasons.

If it is a DIY job, would you be so kind to review the attached schematic and let me know if this makes sense and if it's possible? If so, hopefully you guys can point me in the right direction so I know exactly what to buy at Home Depot.

Thanks in advance. James

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The HD-9 is on the same wall as my main panel to the whole house. I'd like to connect the HD-9 as shown in the picture with a plug type connection. I also plan on installing an AC/Heat unit above the door in the near future. The AC unit requires 240v as well. The receptacle at the bottom will remain unused but available, and will only be used seldomly for a Millermatic Welder or anything else I come across. I also purchased the air/electric workstation from Bendpak as illustrated. Hopefully that can be run off the same line as the 240v, or will it require it's own line?

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I would add a subpanel and run multiple circuits to do what you're doing. I don't think your drawing is a good solution.
 

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The A/C needs a circuit, the welder needs a circuit, the lift needs a circuit, and your 120v receptacles need one or more circuits. Cant just hook them all to one line as you have illustrated (unless that is just a conduit route and you will wire it accordingly, but you may have fill issues)
 
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I forgot to mention that I have two open "slots" on my panel, and the electricians that came over said they could work with what I have. No mention of a subpanel was ever mentioned.

I have no problem adding a subpanel as you suggested, as long as the benefit outways the cost, and the cost isn't too much.
 
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The A/C needs a circuit, the welder needs a circuit, the lift needs a circuit, and your 120v receptacles need one or more circuits. Cant just hook them all to one line as you have illustrated (unless that is just a conduit route and you will wire it accordingly, but you may have fill issues)

Really? Even if no more than two things are running at the same time? For example, if I had the AC on, I would not use the welder, only the lift and maybe the 110v outlets.

Please school me mrb, I'm all ears. Thanks.
 
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Really? Even if no more than two things are running at the same time? For example, if I had the AC on, I would not use the welder, only the lift and maybe the 110v outlets.

Please school me mrb, I'm all ears. Thanks.

It's just the safe and proper way to do it. You may not always be the owner of the property and don't want to leave a situation that's not totally correct for the next owner.
 

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For equipment fastened in place if the equipment's load exceeds 50% of the branch circuit rating then it has to be on a dedicated circuit.

Doesnt your welder require a 30 or 50 amp circuit? That cant share a circuit with an AC unit or lift that requires a 20 amp circuit.

To do the lift and A/C with one circuit you would have to supply them through a DPDT transfer switch or have once receptacle and plug in either the lift or a/c but not both. and this still does not address the 120v receptacles.

install a subpanel supplied by the two open spaces you have in your main, then run the circuits you need from it.
 

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I forgot to mention that I have two open "slots" on my panel, and the electricians that came over said they could work with what I have. No mention of a subpanel was ever mentioned.

I have no problem adding a subpanel as you suggested, as long as the benefit outways the cost, and the cost isn't too much.

Two open slots? So you have expansion for two 120v circuits or one 240v circuit, hence the need for a subpanel, unless you convert some of the existing breaker to mini's to free up space in the main. Cheaper to add a subpanel.
 
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I installed a single receptacle for my lift's electric feed (240v/30a). My welder also uses 30a. I can only plug one device in at a time (welder or lift) as there is only one receptacle. A set-up like that may save you from having to add an additional circuit.
 

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I guess there's no issue with hijacking / resurrecting a 2+ year-old thread on my topic, so here goes...

I ordered Bendpak's WSA-100 "Optional Air/Electric Workstation", and recently found out that while it mounts directly to 2-post lift columns, it takes a bracket to adapt it to the narrower column/post of my 4-post HD-9.

And, that bracket was apparently left out of my shipment, and there are no instructions on its use...just an obscure mention of it on the WSA-100 instruction sheet.

Seeing the OP's drawing, I'm wondering how he (or anyone else who's put the WSA-100 on a 4-post lift) accomplished it, with or without this magic bracket that Bendpak is shipping out to me.

Pics would be most helpful.

Thanks...Paul
 
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