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Benefits of building thickness with polys, RB, Hellfire

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Hi all. First time poster, long time lurker. I’ve spent more than a few weeks reading (and rereading) just about every thread in this sub. Lots of info, even more questions.

So I’ve been studying the similarities and differences between the commonly recommended DIY coatings - the polys offered by ArmorPoxy, Legacy, and Garageflooring LLC (AWF), and the Rust Bullet Duragrade and Hellfire products.

So my question is: is there any benefit to building up more thickness than what is a typical application for these products?. The polys each seem to put down similar mils per coat, all else being equal. At what point does the cost of the product outweigh the benefit of additional coatings, or put another way, why is 2 or 3 coatings the recommended standard?

Nohr-S calls for a coat of primer, a coat of base, and a top coat.
SPGX is a recommended two coat application (no primer?).
AWF is a two or three coat application.

Hellfire recommends 3 coats with optional clean coat. Hellfire coats less thick than the polys above.

Rust Bullet Duragrade recommends between 2-3 coats as well, optional clear coat.

The Hellfire and RB being less expensive, arguably less aesthetically pleasing and certainly less thick, but would these perform better than the polys if you were to add thickness until you were at the same cost point as the polys above?
 
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Hi all. First time poster, long time lurker. I’ve spent more than a few weeks reading (and rereading) just about every thread in this sub. Lots of info, even more questions.

So I’ve been studying the similarities and differences between the commonly recommended DIY coatings - the polys offered by ArmorPoxy, Legacy, and Garageflooring LLC (AWF), and the Rust Bullet Duragrade and Hellfire products.

So my question is: is there any benefit to building up more thickness than what is a typical application for these products?. The polys each seem to put down similar mils per coat, all else being equal. At what point does the cost of the product outweigh the benefit of additional coatings, or put another way, why is 2 or 3 coatings the recommended standard?

Nohr-S calls for a coat of primer, a coat of base, and a top coat.
SPGX is a recommended two coat application (no primer?).
AWF is a two or three coat application.

Hellfire recommends 3 coats with optional clean coat. Hellfire coats less thick than the polys above.

Rust Bullet Duragrade recommends between 2-3 coats as well, optional clear coat.

The Hellfire and RB being less expensive, arguably less aesthetically pleasing and certainly less thick, but would these perform better than the polys if you were to add thickness until you were at the same cost point as the polys above?

Speaking for our Polyruea product, more coats is better. In most cases going beyond 3 coats @ 200 SF per gallon, you start to get to the point of diminishing return but there are exceptions.


If I am doing gray and even tan, I would do one color coat and two clear coats. White and other colors I would do two color coats and one clear. A second clear coat would be beneficial in a high use application but overkill for most.

I like two clear coats because clear is so easy (relatively speaking) to lightly sand and recoat if you damage it. Once you get into color and flake repairs tend to stand out. Clear is inherently stronger than a color product.

Generally speaking, apples to apples, the more mils the better the system will wear over time
 
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Thanks Justin!

I guess another way I might have asked the question is that, given all of these products are really, really good, and offer their own benefits and limitations, if its "better" to put more coats on with a less expensive product, or the recommended number of coats with the more costly (and arguably, "better") products.

Looking mostly for durability in a typical new build residential garage that will park a car, van, a dirt bike, and lots of sporting goods and gear. Some workwooding, no real auto mechanic stuff beyond base maintenance. Just want it to last and maybe look good along the way.
 
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HellFire is apples and oranges to the more decorative products.
If you are a clear-coat n flake guy, go for the Nohr-S Polyurea kit or similar kits.

Good luck, I returned your DM today as well.
 

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Thanks Justin!

I guess another way I might have asked the question is that, given all of these products are really, really good, and offer their own benefits and limitations, if its "better" to put more coats on with a less expensive product, or the recommended number of coats with the more costly (and arguably, "better") products.

Looking mostly for durability in a typical new build residential garage that will park a car, van, a dirt bike, and lots of sporting goods and gear. Some workwooding, no real auto mechanic stuff beyond base maintenance. Just want it to last and maybe look good along the way.

I would take two coats of our product, Legacy's product or Armporpoxy's product over 50 coats of some of the 'less expensive stuff' :beer::lol_hitti

Less expensive products have their place. If you are looking for high end. us one of the suppliers above
 
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