BernzOmatic torch
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y'sguy
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nope!, mine quit too.
a piezo ignitor . not sure how they work . but google will have some info
engineer2
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Piezo ignitors are made of a chunk of barium titanate or lead zirconate titanate. It generates an electric discharge if you smack it.
If it doesn't work look for a wiring issue, grounding issues, inoperative crystal, improper spark gap or clogged orifice.
I have a TS7000 torch head and had no luck trying to repair it. It sparks but won't light.
I contacted Bernz-O-Matic and zero help because it's out of warranty. "Just buy a new one!" So I bought a Chinese replacement on Amazon that works great.
If it doesn't work look for a wiring issue, grounding issues, inoperative crystal, improper spark gap or clogged orifice.
I have a TS7000 torch head and had no luck trying to repair it. It sparks but won't light.
I contacted Bernz-O-Matic and zero help because it's out of warranty. "Just buy a new one!" So I bought a Chinese replacement on Amazon that works great.
Beerhippie
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Bernzomatic used to make some excellent, top-of-the-line butane and propane appliances. They no longer do so. In fact most cheap-*** Chinesium gas tools beat them for function and reliability--and price.
Sorry to have to say that, but experience....
Sorry to have to say that, but experience....
jayemm
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I have the TS4000 and don't see how there ever was any spark in the area circled in red. I think that curved tube carries the high voltage wire up to near the end of the main tube. When mine wouldn't ignite I unscrewed the nozzle and saw the wire grounded to the tube. Moving the wire away formed a gap that allowed a spark to develop and jump to the main tube thus igniting the gas.
finn
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The only issue I have had with propane devices is plugged orifices. Spiders get in the orifices, I think.
You should be able to hear the hammer device striking the piezo crystal, though. The crystal itself rarely fails.
You should be able to hear the hammer device striking the piezo crystal, though. The crystal itself rarely fails.
I coulnd't agree more. When my latest Bernzomatic failed I replaced it with a "no name" from Amazon that was much cheaper, way better built with superior reviews.
I treat the Benzomatics as a consumable that works great for "a while" then becomes increasingly difficult to light off. Then it's time for a replacement. [Just like with spray bottles, no longevity in any of them, regardless of price....]
Good catch, the spark is up at the tip of the torch
Dakotadadv8
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Buy a good igniter, still good after 15 years.
y'sguy
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good info, I'm going to give mine a check right now. hope it works
Beerhippie
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With Bernzo running about three to four times the price of the competition--like my $39 min-torch--they're a bit hard to think of as "consumables".
For a plumbing and general all-around propane torch, I'll stick to my Lenox. Those seem to last damned near forever.
driftpin
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BernzOmatic used to be built in Rochester NY from 1940. Before that it was Newark NJ. I have a couple of flint-type ignited propane torches made by BernzOmatic, and they still work. I was a teenager when I got my first one, and it's got to be 60 years old in my possession now.
They have gone through a couple of owners since being based in western NYS.
bernzomatic.nl
They have gone through a couple of owners since being based in western NYS.
History of Bernzomatic | Bernzomatic
bernzomatic.nl
jayemm
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I paid ~ $34 back then for my TS4000. It has a fixed flame but the adjustable flame TS8000 was considerably more expensive. I put the price difference toward the 59" extension hose to allow better access/orientation that the clunky cylinder wouldn't allow. I just checked, the TS8000 is 53.98 at Amazon. This Bernzomatic stuff is getting a bit steep. I noticed that on a recent trip to Home depot.
y'sguy
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I just went out in the garage to follow up on this. Checked overkthe old Bezo, yep still doesn't lite-just haven't thrown it away yet.
Take a closer look and pull the tube-end apart and unscrew it in sections. Observe the wire/igniter; check the switch, doesn't spark. Try again, touch the wire, pull the trigger-slight shock to my finger-something there! But it won't visually spark. Remove the torch tubing from the black base by removing the two separate allen screws and pulling out the tube assembly to reveal a small coil spring. Try the trigger again and see a good spark! Take out the spring, then the wire. Give it a slight pull with some needle nose, has a slight fray to it. put the spring back in place, pull the trigger and success-bigger spark. Reassemble and WAHLAH! flame with gas! No need to buy a new one. Thanks for jogging me into action. Now I just need to buy a new bottle of gas. Back in Bidness!
Lassen Forge
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My OLD bernz used a "boy scout" like an oxy-acetylene torch... I bought a new one with the clicker, it (the piezo clicker) lasted a couple years and crapped the bed, so I went back to using a boy scout with it. Seriously, sometimes old school beats the **** out of new tech. Stops sparking? Replace the flint.
413dan
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this. the spark occurs higher up as jayemm notes.
recently needed my torch to heat a stuck caliper slide pin. It wouldn't light, though I could smell gas and see spark. took it inside and let it warm up, but still nothing. A quick google noted it could be a bug obstruction. I took it apart and sprayed compressed air in, and lo and behold, a spider came crawling out. I had to take off an Allen screw to disassemble a bit further and A toothpick and some more air removed a small obstruction the spider had built. the last person to use it left it on the ground rather than putting back on the shelf, likely giving them easier access. Could've happened anywhere, but I was shocked AI was right when I asked google and gemini answered.