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k-os

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Looks like the domain name "Insabahm.com" was created on 4/21/20. I wouldn't hold your breath this is real.
 
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caltemus

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I paid through Paypal, so I'm not too worried about losing any money. Worst case they don't ship anything and I dispute it for a refund.
 

Zestomite

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This is like scam 101. Newly created domain. Nonsensical website name. Random items and random pricing.
You may get your money back but I would advise using some more discretion online.
 

RKA

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Just update the OP so others don't fall for this scam.

I'm surprised paypal doesn't do a better job of flagging these sites and transactions too...since they are directly on the hook for lost $$.
 
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caltemus

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You may get your money back but I would advise using some more discretion online.

What's the risk? On the small chance I get the item, it's great. If not, I'm refunded. I would not have given them a CC#
 

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And.....why does any of that matter?

Thats the type of info that is used to steal identities. I bet you dont want to post your full name, address and email here? Same reason. Or it could just be used to sell to spammers too?
 

brokeboater

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What's the risk?

One risk is that you make an error contesting it with paypal. During a brainfart I ordered something from a web site I should have known better. Within 5 minutes I tried to cancel the deal. No response what-so-ever from the company. Paypal said I'd have to go through the whole process. I did and they rejected my claim as I tried to cancel the transaction and paypal won't do that. When I put in a clam due to not receiving the item I kept getting the message that my claim was denied. Each time took a couple of days for the reply to come back. But there was a link to cancel the claim. I seemed like it might be the necessary process, cancel the old claim having to do with trying to cancel the original order then instigate a new claim for non receipt of product. I decided to go through the whole process of tracking down someone at paypal I could understand and who would straighten things out. Turns out my suspicion was correct, if I'd cancelled the old claim about cancelling the initial purchase I would not have been allowed to file a further claim even though I didn't receive the item. You sell a whole bunch of too good to be true items on your web site and a few blundering idiots don't handle the claim process right and bingo, easy money.
 
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Cue

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That's why you pay with a credit card and do a charge back.

I have heard stories in the past about Paypal closing accounts if someone does a chargeback on a credit card payment, I dont know if they still do that or not. Something to keep in mind.
 

liliysdad

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Thats the type of info that is used to steal identities. I bet you dont want to post your full name, address and email here? Same reason. Or it could just be used to sell to spammers too?



Your name and address really isn't the information identity thieves are really after....but OK.
 

liliysdad

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I have heard stories in the past about Paypal closing accounts if someone does a chargeback on a credit card payment, I dont know if they still do that or not. Something to keep in mind.

I have heard that as well...and as such, i would imagine it would best be reserved as a last resort. I have never had any issue whatsoever with disputes through Paypal, as a buyer or a seller.
 

joe--h

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Why would you want to clamp those little sticks to that little box?

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caltemus

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Why would you want to clamp those little sticks to that little box?

It's not so useful alone, but on a stack of those boxes it can be a useful work surface. Additionally, I need to remake the top jaws of my workmate soon. Including 20mm holes would let me use these clamps and others like them quite flexibly. I'd also like to include that hole pattern on any future workbenches I make. The Festool branded version of this was always something I was looking for, and I prefer the bessey clamps to the festool one. The Festool one is not made anymore as far as I can tell, and while Veritas has their own version that's in stock,they're all crazy expensive for what is a plastic box and a handful of clamps.
 

Slider20

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We no longer use PayPal, my wife’s account was hacked and the thieves made a $200 purchase from Wayfair, we disputed the charge. Tried to appeal many times, no refund was given.
 
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