Best 1/2" CORDED drill with brake.

[Mohawk Dave]

Looking for new corded drill with brake. 1/2" and prob 3/8" as well.
(With all due respect, please do not recommend pneumatic or battery-already got those)

Been looking at this, which is the ONLY one I can find:

Hitachi D13VF ≈$90 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005LEY6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Price is of no concern (unless it's lie 500 bucks obv). What's GJ say?

 

[neophyte]

What do you mean by a corded drill "with a brake"? Do you mean some type of safety clutch to prevent the torque from a jammed bit tearing your arm out of its socket? Or do you mean a locking spindle? If you're looking for a safety clutch, Metabo is one brand that comes to mind. If you're looking for a locking spindle on a corded drill the only ones I can think of sold in the USA is the new Fein models. This is the Fein 1/2" two speed drill. http://www.feinus.com/en_us/drilling/rotary-drills/bop-13-2-0298072/ Metabo makes more than one model with a clutch. This is one of them http://www.metabo.us/Product-catalog-handheld-powertools.23980+M5e3c6c799da.0.html This is a smaller slightly lower powered one. http://www.metabo.us/Product-catalog-handheld-powertools.23980+M5bc3f82407b.0.html

This is video of one of the Fein drills.

 

[neophyte]

It looks like Dewalt, Bosch, and Ridgid also make corded drill models with a safety clutch. The Dewalt model is the DWD220, http://www.dewalt.com/tools/drills-12-vsr-drills-dwd220.aspx Ridgid manufactures the R5011, http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/R5011-Hammer-Drill/EN/index.htm The Bosch model HD21-2, http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=HD21-2 and HD19-2 http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=HD19-2

 

[Burgerkong]

I assume he meant a drill with a trigger that when depressed stops the chuck from rotating. My Bosch cordless (obviously not what you're looking for) does this. Nice to have especially when you don't want to drill too far.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

not safety clutch.

A brake: when you let off the trigger, the machine stops spinning.

In other words, it does not free-spin after you let off the trigger.

(Most cordless do this)

 

[theoldwizard1]

Whatever you buy, get a 1/2" and get one with triple gear reduction. Yes, it will not have a lot of RPMs, but that is what you want for larger drill bits.

Nothing stops my old Craftsman Commercial. Almost broke my wrist more than once when not using the assist handle !!

 

[willhollin]

Don't know of any mains drill with an electric brake, it would be useful though.

 

[Kev442]

Seems to me that a 1/2" drill with a brake would simply "weld" the brushes to the armature when very hot from heavy use.

 

[willhollin]

Seems to me that a 1/2" drill with a brake would simply "weld" the brushes to the armature when very hot from heavy use.

I've got a Hitachi C7BU circular saw with an electric brake, must be a good reason why there's none on any drills though.

 

[neophyte]

not safety clutch.

A brake: when you let off the trigger, the machine stops spinning.

In other words, it does not free-spin after you let off the trigger.

(Most cordless do this)

You're looking for a drill with a "automatic shaft lock", "automatic spindle lock", or "locking spindle". The Fein BOP model drills have automatic spindle locks. This is the Fein USA webpage that lists their drills.

http://www.feinus.com/en_us/drilling/rotary-drills/

The Fein BOP 13-2 is the only model with an official 1/2" steel hole drilling capacity. The Fein BOP 10, and BOP 10-2 are listed as having 3/8" hole drilling capacity in steel. I wouldn't be surprised if they could handle the larger capacity though. I don't know a price for the Fein drills but would guess $300 or more.

Dewalt makes a drill model DWD215G that has an automatic spindle lock, and 1/2" capacity. It also has a T handle design similar to most cordless drills. Street price looks to be betwwen $150 and $200.

http://www.dewalt.com/tools/drills-12-vsr-drills-dwd215g.aspx

Most other companies that make corded drills with an automatic spindle lock are European , and the drill models don't seem to be manufactured 120 volt versions for the USA.

 

[neophyte]

I've got a Hitachi C7BU circular saw with an electric brake, must be a good reason why there's none on any drills though.

The type of drill the Mowhawk Dave is looking for is actually pretty common in Europe, but not in the USA.

 

[Monte]

not safety clutch.

A brake: when you let off the trigger, the machine stops spinning.

In other words, it does not free-spin after you let off the trigger.

(Most cordless do this)

don´t exist

 

[Southern]

don´t exist

Not only is that not true, but just a few posts above you people have linked to two different drills that certainly have it.

So you posted in a thread without even reading it, to say something that isn't true.

What are you doing?

 

[neophyte]

don´t exist

Mohawk Dave seems to be referring to drills with a "locking" spindle or arbor, the kind of drill that allows the use of a single sleeve keyless chuck. I believe you own a Milwaukee 0302-** that has a single sleeve keyless chuck with a locking spindle. This wold also meet Mohawk Daves requirements. If I understand them correctly now. This is the thread where you posted it.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118806&showall=1

This is the current model listed on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00005Q7AH/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[neophyte]

I think "What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate"

 

[Monte]

as far as i understand Mohawk Dave looks for a drill which stops immediately after the trigger is released.....like a cordless drill........ ???

 

[beamrider]

Electric brake?

 

[neophyte]

as far as i understand Mohawk Dave looks for a drill which stops immediately after the trigger is released.....like a cordless drill........ ???

The spindle on your Milwaukee drill locks when you stop pressing the trigger so you can use the chuck with one hand doesn't it? I sort of figured that's what Mohawk Dave is looking for since it's the closest you can get to the locking spindle on a cordless drill.

 

[Monte]

Well let´s see what Mohawk Dave says

 

[Mohawk Dave]

oh wow....ok, electric brake. (Has nothing to do with the chuck)

Example...drilling 3/16" holes for rivets the other day, I have the drill wide open throttle, pull it out, and then I have to wait for it to stop spinning so I can place the drill in the next location.

When it free-spins (after I let off the trigger) I can not just place it in the next location in case the drill walks-because this was finish work.

So, drilling hundreds of holes, I have to wait ≈ 5/6 seconds for the drill motor to completely stop, so I can move on to the next location.

Hope this spells it out. Sorry if I made it confusing.

EDIT: that Hitachi I posted in #1 post has it. Maybe that's the only one.????

 

[neophyte]

oh wow....ok, electric brake. (Has nothing to do with the chuck)

Example...drilling 3/16" holes for rivets the other day, I have the drill wide open throttle, pull it out, and then I have to wait for it to stop spinning so I can place the drill in the next location.

When it free-spins (after I let off the trigger) I can not just place it in the next location in case the drill walks-because this was finish work.

So, drilling hundreds of holes, I have to wait ≈ 5/6 seconds for the drill motor to completely stop, so I can move on to the next location.

Hope this spells it out. Sorry if I made it confusing.

EDIT: that Hitachi I posted in #1 post has it. Maybe that's the only one.????

I've never seen that Hitachi drill in person, but there is nothing in the description on Amazon or Hitachi's website that mention any type of breaking system or a lockable spindle. The drill chuck is also a keyed type chuck, a style usually not found on drills with a locking spindle unless the drill has a hammer function. The drill does have double gear reduction which may cause the chuck to slow down quicker.

 

[neophyte]

I've never seen that Hitachi drill in person, but there is nothing in the description on Amazon or Hitachi's website that mention any type of breaking system or a lockable spindle. The drill chuck is also a keyed type chuck, a style usually not found on drills with a locking spindle unless the drill has a hammer function. The drill does have double gear reduction which may cause the chuck to slow down quicker.

Apparently I was wrong about that. The Hitachi manual does say that the D13VF and D13VG drills do have an electric break.

 

[Monte]

don´t exist

ok i was wrong

as far as i understand Mohawk Dave looks for a drill which stops immediately after the trigger is released.....like a cordless drill........ ???

a cheer for the german school system !




I´m not aware that manufacturers like Bosch,Metabo and Fein make something like that. I used a air drill to drill a lot of holes in a short amount in time.

 

[5lima30]

Whatever you buy, get a 1/2" and get one with triple gear reduction. Yes, it will not have a lot of RPMs, but that is what you want for larger drill bits.

Nothing stops my old Craftsman Commercial. Almost broke my wrist more than once when not using the assist handle !!

^^^THIS!!

 

[neophyte]

I looked around on Google. The subject of corded drills with an electric brake seems to come up every couple years on various forums. The Hitachi D13VF and D13VG drills seem like they may be the only currently available drills in the USA market with electric breaks. I did find a mention that Bosch may have made a model with an electric break, but it has since been discontinued and I don't know the model #.

Sorry for all the confusion Mohawk Dave. The feature is unusual enough I was unaware of it. If you buy one of the Hitachi drills please post pictures and/or video.

 

[CWP1616L]

oh wow....ok, electric brake. (Has nothing to do with the chuck)

Example...drilling 3/16" holes for rivets the other day, I have the drill wide open throttle, pull it out, and then I have to wait for it to stop spinning so I can place the drill in the next location.

Just get a low rpm high torque drill. 0-650 rpm. You won't need an electric brake on one of those.

 

[gsmornot]

I'm happy to see they make some with a clutch and I should buy one of those. Can't tell you how many times the drill has been pulled from my hands because it catches on something at full speed. Hurts a bit just thinking about it. We had one a while back that we called a rodeo drill. Each of us would take turns drilling floor tiles and when it got to the point it was breaking through the bottom of the tile it would be like riding a bull to hang on. Ha.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Just get a low rpm high torque drill. 0-650 rpm. You won't need an electric brake on one of those.

Except that IT DOESN'T HAVE A BRAKE. Which, is the whole point of this thread. And for 3/16" holes, high speed is the way to go.

Maybe I could just get a sharp ice pick and a hammer, then I won't need a drill motor at all!

 

[neophyte]

Except that IT DOESN'T HAVE A BRAKE. Which, is the whole point of this thread. And for 3/16" holes, high speed is the way to go.

Maybe I could just get a sharp ice pick and a hammer, then I won't need a drill motor at all!

Would a screwdriver/screwgun with a clutch like the ones used for drywalling work if you use a 1/4" hex shanked drill bit. Dewalt makes solid steel 3/16" 1/4" hex shanked bits, Wiha also makes 3/16" solid drill bits and theirs are stubby length. Do you center punch the holes before drilling?

 

[Mohawk Dave]

Would a screwdriver/screwgun with a clutch like the ones used for drywalling work if you use a 1/4" hex shanked drill bit. Dewalt makes solid steel 3/16" 1/4" hex shanked bits, Wiha also makes 3/16" solid drill bits and theirs are stubby length. Do you center punch the holes before drilling?

hhmmm....I'll try that. I got one out back. Makes sense. I'll try tomorrow and report back. Still want that Hitachi for a number of other things though. But I think you may be onto something.

 

[CWP1616L]

Except that IT DOESN'T HAVE A BRAKE. Which, is the whole point of this thread. And for 3/16" holes, high speed is the way to go.

Maybe I could just get a sharp ice pick and a hammer, then I won't need a drill motor at all!

I'm very glad you started this thread. I have always wondered what would be the last thing in the world that I needed. Now I know...

IT'S AN ELECTRIC BRAKE ON A DRILL.

 

[TheGrooveking]

DeWalt sells an attachment that has a clutch in it that only spins when you apply pressure, its designed for 1/4" hex drive but would easily chuck up in a drill's chuck. I just bought the thing out of curiosity yesterday at Lowes. We are doing a project that requires over 19,600 TEK screws. When I get back to work in the morning I'll get the part number for you any I'll giving it a try, I'll post a review.

TheGrooveking

 

[TwoInch]

I'm very glad you started this thread. I have always wondered what would be the last thing in the world that I needed. Now I know...

IT'S AN ELECTRIC BRAKE ON A DRILL.

never had an instance where the free spin of a corded drill was a pain in the ***, or slowed work?

i was just dealing with this exact scenario just days ago when i did not have my cordless driver at a job i was working. i feel your pain OP

 

[CWP1616L]

never had an instance where the free spin of a corded drill was a pain in the ***, or slowed work?

Now that you mention it, no I haven't.

 

[Chreese]

Servus,

The Protool PDP 20-4 DEC FF (hammer feature) and Protool DRP 18-4 DEC FF (no hammer feature) are equipped with an electronic brake. I don't know if Protool is available in the US though.
More information about these drills can be found here (Protool Australia). There are also several interesting videos on youtube.

Hope this helps,

Chreese

 

[neophyte]

Servus,

The Protool PDP 20-4 DEC FF (hammer feature) and Protool DRP 18-4 DEC FF (no hammer feature) are equipped with an electronic brake. I don't know if Protool is available in the US though.
More information about these drills can be found here (Protool Australia). There are also several interesting videos on youtube.

Hope this helps,

Chreese

Protool doesn't seem to manufacture tools in USA voltage. The one store in the USA that sells the brand that I know of is Timberwolf Tools, and you need 120v to 240v converters to use them. They also don't carry the fulll lineof tools. Thanks for mentioning the electronic brake though.