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Best dead bolt lock
- Thread starter Tazzie
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Keep
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Here is what my locksmith recommended:
http://www.kwikset.com/SmartSecurity/Lock-Bumping-Protection.aspx
http://www.kwikset.com/SmartSecurity/Lock-Bumping-Protection.aspx
I know this is an old thread but if your on a budget I would go with the Master lock brand of deadbolts. It's what I carry in my locksmith can fir my "house" brand. They are pick resistant, bump resistant and come in multiple keyways to match your other locks/ keys if you want it keyed alike. The kwikset smartkey locks are easy to open when they're locked. A screw driver and a pair of channel locks will easily get smartkey locks open. Only way to break into the Master series deadbolt is to drill it. I recommend these for budget mind people. If you spend more, quality just goes up on any brand. Plenty of expensive locks with all lock brands. Master also has a really nice and affordable push button electric deadbolt. I've installed many of these...
With any deadbolt Stick with grade 1 (the best) or grade 2.
http://www.masterdoorlock.com/catalog/residential
http://www.masterdoorlock.com/catalog/residential
Good point. Yeah, me neither. But then again, how would you know unless you found something missing or the intruder got caught as pick or bump doesn't really leave evidence. We don't get a whole lot of burglaries in my area. Usually someone will go for the back door (on a house...) and break a window or spread the jamb if the deadbolt is not there or doesn't have a 1" throw... In a lot of cases they go through the overhead garage door that's was mistakenly left open. I like to have a decent brand to recommend and prefer non big box store stuff. For common economy brands, my lock suppliers carry PLS, General, and Master. Master has gotten better over the years and most recognize the name. Schlage used to be leader in industry but I notice them and kwikset on the store displays are usually broken. Any lock is better than none at all.
Medeco is suppose to be the best.
I had a Medeco in an Condo, and the tailpiece broke inside. I remember the locksmith took over an hour to get the door open, after bringing all kinds of tools from the truck.
I was about to tell him to just go to the truck and get an axe and hack the door apart, but he finally got it open.
I figured after all that work it took him, it would take forever for a thief to get in. So I figure they must be good locks.
The only downside with the Medeco is that you can't just run over to Home Depot and get a key made. You have to get keys from a locksmith if you want duplicates. But I guess that also adds a layer of security in the difficulty to get duplicate keys.
I had a Medeco in an Condo, and the tailpiece broke inside. I remember the locksmith took over an hour to get the door open, after bringing all kinds of tools from the truck.
I was about to tell him to just go to the truck and get an axe and hack the door apart, but he finally got it open.
I figured after all that work it took him, it would take forever for a thief to get in. So I figure they must be good locks.
The only downside with the Medeco is that you can't just run over to Home Depot and get a key made. You have to get keys from a locksmith if you want duplicates. But I guess that also adds a layer of security in the difficulty to get duplicate keys.
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mobiledynamics
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abloy protec
This is true. If a lock takes a key, then it most likely can be bypassed. Some Medecos uses hardened pins and balls to block drilling as well and angular cuts and a side bar. They work really well. In most cases you have the illusion of security. I always try to pick first. With the right tools sometimes you get lucky on the high security locks.
1/4 inch drill bit, cordless drill, 60 seconds. Guaranteed in!
Don't be so sure! Not all locks installed on doors come from a big box store.
beamrider
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1/4 inch drill bit, cordless drill, 60 seconds. Guaranteed in!
I see your 1/4" bit/cordless/60 second routine, and raise you....
1/2" masonry bit, cordless hammer drill, 30 seconds. When I was in apartment maintenance, I got sick of breaking bits trying to drill at the shear line. 1/2" bit right in the keyway did the trick. 15 years later, I still have that same 1/2" bit...
MeentSS02
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Here is what my locksmith recommended:
http://www.kwikset.com/SmartSecurity/Lock-Bumping-Protection.aspx
I've had one of these Smart Key locks fail on me in the process of re-keying...it was frustrating not being able to open my own front door. I ended up having to disassemble the entire thing and toss it...I would have had to send it back to get it unlocked (or maybe to a locksmith that had the special tool required to reset it). Just wasn't worth the time and aggravation.
When they work they are real nifty... Beats fumbling with pins, springs and tweezers. A lot of locksmiths started off hating them. I keep a spare lock and core in my box now and after a customer lost his keys I decided to embrace this "technology". I bought the reset cradle with the reset tool and now love getting calls on these. Most customers throw away the reset tool that comes in the package. I find that if you set this to a new key, and it hangs up, then go through the rekey process again. Sometimes the pins don't fall into place when keyed the first time.
theoldwizard1
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A lock is only as good as the door frame and door.
littletoes
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They'll never know it's there....
http://www.rrbrink.com/catalog/HEADFOOT.pdf
or try these;
http://www.rrbrink.com/mechanical_locks.htm
How much do you want to spend???
http://www.rrbrink.com/catalog/HEADFOOT.pdf
or try these;
http://www.rrbrink.com/mechanical_locks.htm
How much do you want to spend???
nicksnothereman
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Good evening I an looking for a good dead bolt lock for my pole barn entry door. One that can not be bumped. Anyone use the electronic ones? Thanks
Anything worth that much I'd use redundant security. You know lock on the door, lock on the floor (expensive stuff in a concrete pouring chamber in the floor), lock on the box (box in the concrete pouring chamber).
Or...just insure it and throw whatever on the door.
Typically I just buy what I can find in store usually that means "master" lock. If a thief has the will they'll go right through that though. Could just cut the door itself (if it's a wood door; barn=assumed don't know what a pole barn is though).
Most thiefs will just brute force it anyway. That's why you have redundant security. Depends on the state but booby traps might be an option; behind a locked door it's probably not a legal issue unless they are lethal traps.
At the point you need to protect it, it's probably just best to have insurance. Protect the hand and power tools that aren't mounted but everything else the schmucks probably won't bother with.
I have a Kwikset 907
http://www.menards.com/main/doors-w...deadbolt-polished-brass/p-1363969-c-12306.htm
If someone wants in they will get in. I just want it to take a little time, make a lot of noise and set off the alarm. It's probably easier to go through the wall or window anyway.
http://www.menards.com/main/doors-w...deadbolt-polished-brass/p-1363969-c-12306.htm
If someone wants in they will get in. I just want it to take a little time, make a lot of noise and set off the alarm. It's probably easier to go through the wall or window anyway.
jeffmoss26
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Mul-T-Lock
ishiboo
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I've had one of these Smart Key locks fail on me in the process of re-keying...it was frustrating not being able to open my own front door. I ended up having to disassemble the entire thing and toss it...I would have had to send it back to get it unlocked (or maybe to a locksmith that had the special tool required to reset it). Just wasn't worth the time and aggravation.
The reset tool is like $17 and works instantly.
I have a bunch of the Kwikset SmartKey locks, I don't think they're particularly more secure than any other "cheap lock" but the convenience of rekeying is definitely nice. When I bought the house, I lived in the lower (common entry door) and gave the contractor a key to the exterior door and upper. When they finished, I simply rekeyed the exterior door to match the interior door for free. Kinda nice.
Kwikset also has a deadbolt specifically for rental properties where a landlord can maintain control of the lock in case a tenant changes the locks without them knowing it. Smartkey is a neat concept but a screw driver and a pair of channel locks can easily open the lock. And in some cases the original key would still work. You would only know this had been done by trying to rekey it as it would no longer be rekeyable. As said before, most criminals will get in regardless of what deadbolt you use. Thorn/ sticky bushes are great protection for windows...
mobiledynamics
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LOL. Still cant make sense how the OT of best dead bolt + multiple Kwikset responses...
jeffmoss26
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Yeah...not a fan of Kwikset AT ALL!
tjpavlov
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Go for a Medeco if you can afford it. They do a great job of controlling key copying so you can't have a workman or valet run to the hardware store to get a quick copy made.
mobiledynamics
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That's only as good as the locksmith and key controls....
I have a locksmith who will cut me anything.....as long as it's not a special key cut that only X locksmith can dupe. Elevator keys, etc....
I have a locksmith who will cut me anything.....as long as it's not a special key cut that only X locksmith can dupe. Elevator keys, etc....
jeffmoss26
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Most Medeco keys are still restricted though...only certain locksmiths will have blanks.
knobby
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A lock is only as good as the door frame and door.
this
most thieves find these discouraging http://www.nokey.com/foxstylpollo.html
wrenchguy
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A lock is only as good as the door frame and door.
+100, especially if its a wood jamb. Handle and hinge side weakest link if not reinforced. If so most deadbolts r fine. I seen firemen kick in a unreinforced door jamb in 2 seconds. 1 blow.
Chuck122
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we use Abloy locks at work and they look pretty bullet proof. truth is the most likely suspect for a home invasion is some kind of met-head that probably won't be able to pick an abloy or any complex lock so a good frame and door are probably the key (no pun intended). if an organized thief plans and executes a robbery, there really isn't much you can do.
Farmall450
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I see your 1/4" bit/cordless/60 second routine, and raise you....
1/2" masonry bit, cordless hammer drill, 30 seconds. When I was in apartment maintenance, I got sick of breaking bits trying to drill at the shear line. 1/2" bit right in the keyway did the trick. 15 years later, I still have that same 1/2" bit...
I'll raise you again; cutting torch. Biggun.
10 seconds all that's left is some hot metal.