Best Face Shield and Respirator

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

Hey all I have been doing a lot of grinding with a painters type respirator and some safety glasses. Turns out safety glass dont work 100% of the time and I am essentially getting metal dust in my eye very occasionally. I am worried the normal face shields do not have room underneath for such a respirator (maybe they do?) as Id like to protect both my eyes and lungs.

Anyways, I am looking for a full face mask and respirator combo. I can find these all day long but cannot verify they work for impacts (such as broken cutoff wheels). I believe most of these are only good for fumes such as fire smoke where you need to filter the air and protect your eyes from smoke, but not necessarily impacts.
Can someone recommend one of these for me that is verified for impacts and from a legit company (3M, YesWelder, Miller, Lowes/Home Depot, Milwaukee, etc.)?

 

[GophersGarage]

I bought the 3m Fx series for both protection.

https://www.3mcanada.ca/3M/en_CA/p/d/v000057685/

 

[GeoBruin]

Benchmark Abrasives tried to solve this very problem with their Grinder Hood. I have one and it's excellent. It even accommodates ear protection.

In other situations, a full face respirator is the way to go. Ideally you would have both.

Grinder Hood

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[Boogerman]

3m 6900 full face respirator. Really works, and quite comfortable to use.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009KULLT0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

3m 6900

 

[no704]

Welding hood with the shade off or removed.

 

[oldwino]

I’ve been happy with my full-face Norton. I’ll never go back to a half-face again

 

[wjjeep]

I use a MSA full face respirator at home and 3M full face respirator at work.

If you have lots of respirator cartridges from XYZ brand, I'd go with a full face respirator that can use those cartridge, if possible.

For cartridges, the respirator manufacturer should have a guide on what each type of cartridge model is meant to protect the user from.

For eye and face protection, you'll want a respirator that meets the ANSI Z87.1 standard. It should say on the packaging or literature.

 

[ItsNemo]

I have a 3M 7800S full face, uses the same filters as my half mask 7502's...happy with both.

 

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

For eye and face protection, you'll want a respirator that meets the ANSI Z87.1 standard. It should say on the packaging or literature.

This is exactly what I needed. Thanks!
Thank you to everyone else for your recommendations. Time to buy something so I can get back to work. Hopefully my eye feels better. Currently a bit sore but I think I finally flushed out whatever was stuck. ill give it another day or two before I get someone professional to look at it if it doesn't feel any better. And to think I was trying to be safe with my safety glasses too....

 

[corn chip]

most safety glasses arent that effective against floating dust. youll want goggles for that. hexarmor has very nice goggles (made in germany and likely uvex rebrands). if your grinding on a regular basis i would skip goggles with respirator and go right to papr grinding helmet system. and if you occasionaly weld also , flip up welding/grinding papr.

 

[topp64]

You're correct that not all safety glasses and face shields are meant to offer protection from impact. ANSI Z87.1 classifies eye protection as impact or non-impact rated. Impact rated eye protection must pass certain high-mass/high-velocity tests and provide eye protection from the side as well as from the front. ANSI Z87.1 also requires certain specific markings (numbers, letters or symbols) on eye protection that relate directly to the device’s ability to defend against specific hazards. The symbol that identifies eye protection as meeting the requirements to be classified as impact rated is "+." So, any full facepiece respirator that's marked Z87+ will protect against high velocity impacts.

I'm guessing most full facepiece respirators are impact rated. I know 3M full facepiece 6000 series respirators are impact rated. Amazon has both the 3M 6900 (L) and 3M 6800 (M) in stock now with both priced at $114.90, almost $100 off the normal price. Thats only $0.90 more than I paid for my 3M 6800 5 years ago on Amazon! Whatever brand/model you decide to go with, I'd suggest that you get some face shield covers too. It's around $18-20 for 25 but they protect your face shield from scratches.

 

[dnschmidt]

3m 6900 full face respirator. Really works, and quite comfortable to use.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009KULLT0/?tag=atomicindus08-20

3m 6900

THIS!!! You can pay up now or have emphysema later. Your choice.

 

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

Great I took advantage of the 3m 6800 deal and placed an order. I have a welding Helmet that has a grinder setting. I will try this tonight, see what I think, and decide if I am going to keep the 3M or not. Didn't want to pay extra for the 3M if the helmet didn't work as well as I hope.
The grinder hood looks like another solid option!

Thanks all!

 

[corn chip]

umm ya a full face isnt meant for under a welding helmet. half face is. but grinding with welding helmet ***** unless its just a brief touch up on something

 

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

umm ya a full face isnt meant for under a welding helmet. half face is. but grinding with welding helmet ***** unless its just a brief touch up on something

Yes I know that haha. I meant I am going to try using my welding helmet's grind setting to grind. if that works well I will return the 3M full face. if not I will keep it and use that!

 

[ItsNemo]

Yes I know that haha. I meant I am going to try using my welding helmet's grind setting to grind. if that works well I will return the 3M full face. if not I will keep it and use that!

A welding helmet (or full face shield like the uvex/honeywell bionic) are not sufficient for grinding...the eyes are still open behind it. A full face respirator seals to the face like goggles and protects breathing and is really the only 100% safe way of doing it (I find even goggles + half mask not ideal, given the nose pieces overlap).

 

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

A welding helmet (or full face shield like the uvex/honeywell bionic) are not sufficient for grinding...the eyes are still open behind it. A full face respirator seals to the face like goggles and protects breathing and is really the only 100% safe way of doing it (I find even goggles + half mask not ideal, given the nose pieces overlap).

I tried the Welding helmet with a respirator. It worked okay but noticed there isnt much room for the respirator in the helmet which puts the viewing window at a weird angle. It works in a pinch and much better than glasses but I will be keeping the 3M full face shield when it arrives. Pretty expensive for what it is I feel but you only get 2 eyes.

I ended up going to the eye doctor and having a small piece of metal removed from my eye. It was so small I could barely see it on the tissue! Amazing how such a small thing can cause discomfort. I am a baby when it comes to eye stuff and this being my first time at the eye doctors since I was a kid. Never experienced the puff of air before, that made me jump alot! Eye drops are the worst and the doctor basically had to hold my eye open. As far as removing the material, it was a breeze and honestly the best part about going to the doctors. I didn't even feel it! I wouldn't hesitate going again as I had this time!

Again, Thanks everyone!