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Best/most common 240V recepticle.

Paperman

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New to me shop that was totally stripped of utilities. I currently have 10-50 plugs on a few items that run on 240 but plan to add to that list. Being non-grounded is that an issue moving forward? Now is the time to change to a more common or "better" plug for general shop use as all the receptacles will be new either way, a few new plugs wont break the bank if there is a preferred option.
 
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Some of the pieces, especially factory plug and cord are sposed to be on the circuit they came plugged with. Not all 240 equipment is allowed on 50A breakers. The internals of many machines rely on the short circuit protection of the proper breaker. Ideally is to make for a method of addition when you get something new and add the right circuit or plug it in to the proper one. We could use 10 wire and 30A breaker for 120V,,, yes it protects the building wire but all the **** ul listed is designed to be current limited for 20A.
Small welders, will run on 30A service but come 50 end,,, have features to allow it to be plugged in to common 50A welder outlets.
Welder, plasma, band saw for starters and I'm sure more to follow as things find there way home.
I got a lot of stuff. I live rural single phase and have been limited this way but I am kind of past it at this point and I do have some 240 equipment on dedicated circuits but a lot of the general use **** have 120 if it will go that way. I don't really use anything that would overheat a number 10 wire.
Even a lot of the remote or field welding is done 120 anymore.
 
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All 3 of the small welders and plasma need the 240 and a pretty healthy breaker. The band saw has on board protection for the main motor and the attached blade welder.
 

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6-30 and 6-50 (30 and 50 amps respectively).

The plugs come with both 30 and 50 terminals usually and makes keeping stock easier. The receptacles are specific to the style, either 30 or 50.
 

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So do you just pick one from the “6” column?

http://www.nooutage.com/nema_configurations.htm

Or

http://www.rxms.com/files/downloads/documents/Bryant_Chart.pdf


Question: is “6-**” because it has a ground and not 10-** as there is no ground, just a neutral? Can 14-50 outlets be used in the shop for example if I want to put in a oven (for powder coating) that needs 125v for the timer and 250v for the element?

yes you need 6-** for 240v equipment because its grounded.

and yes you would put in a 14-50 for an over because of the 120v controls
 
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