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Krille

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I'm looking for the best chrome sockets that you can get outside a tool truck. Bouth shallow and deep. Just starting my collection of 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2". I guess Snap-On is best, but I don't wanna spend that much money. I'm considering SK, Gearwrench or Wright, but I don't know the marked too good. I live in Norway, but order alot from USA, and I prefer USA/Europe made stuff.
 
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drtyler

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SK sockets are very good, if you desire USA made ones.

Hazet sockets are very good as well. The knurling on the Hazet sockets is very useful, especially when your hands are oily or grease covered.
 

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tekton/kobalt/duralast/HF pro. i have all those. all taiwan made. all VERY good quality.

older usa cman is also good. the newer usa made stuff isnt as good tho.

carlyle is also good. taiwan made.
 

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There are loads of 'made in USA' tools that are 'very good' but not Snap On money! Armstrong, SK and Wright come to mind! Be careful though, if you don't have a dealer in Norway, shipping them from the U.S. can make them more expensive than Snap On.

Williams can be good value - just make sure it's 'made in USA' Williams. The other Williams is generic 'made in Taiwan' that you can get anywhere! They offer both so you need to check the website to find out what you are buying.

European makers tend to be better value in Europe, perhaps look at websites like TBS Aachen. They have a good range of Stahlwille and Hazet, which although looking different, are close to Snap On in quality terms. Some of the offers they have on Stahlwille are awesome!

Failing all the above, consider KoKen. Again, close to Snap On quality at a fraction of the price. If you don't have a dealer in Norway I suspect a British one will ship there!

Suspect you will be disappointed with Gearwrench, it's the other end of the spectrum from the rest of the makes you are considering.
 

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I bought a 1/4" set of Williams a few months back .. Made in Taiwan. The quality was OK but not as good as the older ones that had Made in USA on it.

Williams has 2 lines of tools, USA and Taiwan...... just make sure you're buying USA.


Edit: Tree'd by Dave455
 

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I bought a 1/4" set of Williams a few months back .. Made in Taiwan. The quality was OK but not as good as the older ones that had Made in USA on it.

They still make USA MADE Williams sockets. When ordering you have to pay attention to the part number. All numbers=Williams Taiwan(identical to Blue Point) numbers and letters=Williams USA(identical to snap on).
 

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Every two weeks I've been ordering more Williams USA sockets from Toolsdelivered. They are jewel like quality and every bit as nice as SnapOn sockets right off the truck.



They cost equal money to Chinese tools but you're getting USA made tools. After getting a full set of impact sockets I have started ordering chrome sockets now.
 

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Krille,

I am not sure why but there seems to be a lot of anti - Craftsman feelings here on these forums. Personally just about every tool I have at home is Craftsman. I am 65 years old, have probably been turning wrenches since I was 15 and I cannot remember ever having to return or exchange one. Some of them are older and some are newer, I just bought a set of 1/4 in drive metric deep sockets at Sears last week.

Here at the shop I have a a mix of Snap On and Craftsman with a few other small things mixed in. I don't abuse tools but they get used here at the shop all day every day. I have actually had to get quite a few Snap On tools replaced but once again, not a single Craftsman.

If I was starting out and wanted the most for my money you cant beat some of the combo sales they have and even at the regular price I think they are the best deal out there. It would be Craftsman for me.

There's my opinion :)
 

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I have Williams Taiwan and they are really nice. Unless you are buying USA just out of principle, I think the Williams Taiwan are a really good value and quality.

I think of all the chrome sockets I have though my favorites are Toptul. The finish is just really different and nice. They are what I almost always grab.
 

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I have Cman from 80 to 90 and the new may be even better with the sockets. I suspect the guy that never busted a socket didn't get them in those years. In 82 bought the biggest set they had and busted a socket or 2 in every set. Bought another big set in 90 or so, we bench tested them and bust several right out the gate, these were not ones worked hard but right out of the box. I just changed a handful recently, the new ones are ok, a couple screwdrivers too which seem to be fine.
 

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Best, but don't want to spend the $$.... Harbor Freight as good an answer as the subject of threads like this.

That said, I have SK and some Snap-On home. SK is good for the money, but their QC is spotty (you'll be the QA, but warranty is easy... just lengthy process).

Why not stick with euro brands, like : Hazet, Stahlwille, etc...
 
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Don't be too hard on me. I think that Snap-On is overpriced. And that there must be good alternatives that gives more value for money. SK and Wright are not the cheapest tools you can get. If I only wanted cheap tools, I would go to Biltema. A Norwegian store similar to Harbour Freight. I would not spend alot of money on shipping, and then get Harbour Freight sockets.
 
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Just get Koken if you can get them.
As somebody who owns some SK, whilst decent stuff its no better than the good Euro brands and probably isn't cheaper once shipped over, there is also effectively no warranty outside the USA as they don't ship out. You would have to get someone in the US to help should you need to replace something.
 
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Krille said:
"...the best chrome sockets that you can get outside a tool truck..."

that would be Indestro. Indestro Super or Indestro Select - same socket, just different decoration. Ebay. there are still some new NOS sets on there now.
used sets come up now and then. shipping might make them prohibitively expensive, however.
there are currently three sets of NOS sockets listed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-INDESTR...415783?hash=item1c5c86b2e7:g:AlkAAOSw~bFWQWkB
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-INDESTR...913469?hash=item1c5fa7bffd:g:NpQAAOSwX~dWlbKo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Duro-In...595574?hash=item5d63a32836:g:6l8AAOSwhcJWKsKS
(how much use you might have for SAE stuff there is an open question, but if you ARE looking for SAE in 1/2" drive, you want to look for an OLD set of the Indestro Super with the tapered barrels, like these old beaters:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ind...056324?hash=item4d43356c04:g:iFAAAOSw3mpXHYLs )

S-K makes a very nice socket. reasonably priced.
Proto is excellent, but a bit more spendy.
Wright is excellent, but even more spendy than Proto.

never had a Williams or Armstrong in my hand, so I cannot speak to those.

and as Bill mentions above: Craftsman actually made a decent socket, but their best stuff was the earlier-production product, so if you want their best quality you'll be poking around on Ebay looking for used stuff. (older -V- or =V= code stuff)

welcome to the site. hope the weather is nice and the fishing is good there.
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that would be Indestro. Indestro Super or Indestro Select - same socket, just different decoration.

Is that a fact, or your opinion? I think it's the latter. Collectors might want them, but I'd never recommend tools from a now defunct USA company, to a person in Norway, for actual use.
 

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I jut got my hands on some 1/2 Proto chromies. They are really, really good quality. Not the prettiest, but they will stand the test of time.

Best is subjective. There are plenty of brands that have essentially equal quality. It's up to user preference on design, ease of warranty and overall value.

For instance, I really like chamfered drive holes on my sockets, to more easily attach a socket to a drive. That's really important to me and it's the reason I won't buy any more Sunex sockets. (Even though my Sunex sockets are of superb quality)
 

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williams sockets are snapon sockets . made in the same plant. just half price so the truck guy dont get his mark up.. i facebook friended a snapon employee .. he makes them both.
 

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You're in a much better position than me (sitting in the US) to judge what you have available in quality European brands. I think many are the equal or better than our US quality brands. I'd think they'd be less expensive and more available to you.

If access to, and cost of US brands is comparable, I'd recommend Proto and Williams USA, first, and then SK as a lesser quality competitior. Maybe Wright, I'm familiar with their wrenches but haven't used their sockets. In their wrenches, they're comparable to SK, maybe just a bit better.

I'm very partial to Proto, I have a very extensive array of their tools, it's a nostalgia set for me as I was exposed to them and grew to covet them when I was younger. I purchased them as I could afford to, but never had an extensive set until after I quit doing professional wrenching. Now that I'm old and can afford them, I've purchased the set of my younger dreams and use them in both my garage and my basement machine shop. I also have a comprehensive set of Snap-on tools, that I use interchangeably with the Proto. If costs were equal and I was only looking at functionality, I'd have all Snap-on. If warranty and service were an overriding concern to me, I'd have Snap-on instead of Proto, even with the higher cost. If I was looking at the most cost effective; I'd have mostly all Proto, but might mix in Williams, SK, and Wright and Snap-on for particular sets or pieces that the quality and price align better.
 
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SSdave, as it happens to be here in my country. Quality tools are very hard to come by. There is Snap-On. But little else. Thats why I buy from USA. I have my own american adress that I ship to, then a shipping company takes over and bring it to me. I buy a little each month, and are collecting what I need. I can also buy from Amazon and Ebay. I recently bought a Wright Grip wrench set that I am very pleased with. Can't get that stuff, other than Snap-On, in Norway. Thanks to all people for giving advice. Williams (USA made) seems like a good option
 

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Williams USA is the way to go. Very good quality for the $.
Just make sure the part #s have letters and numbers=USA .
All numbers =Taiwan.
 

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I don't think you can go wrong with the usual suspects: SK, Wright, Williams USA.

If you get SK or Wright I would recommend buying from HJE, maybe give them call or an email so they know your situation. They can ship to you directly or to your U.S. address.

http://www.harryepstein.com/
 

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Every two weeks I've been ordering more Williams USA sockets from Toolsdelivered. They are jewel like quality and every bit as nice as SnapOn sockets right off the truck.



They cost equal money to Chinese tools but you're getting USA made tools. After getting a full set of impact sockets I have started ordering chrome sockets now.

Great advice and testimony. thanks for posting the picture too:thumbup:
 

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SSdave, as it happens to be here in my country. Quality tools are very hard to come by. There is Snap-On. But little else. Thats why I buy from USA. I have my own american adress that I ship to, then a shipping company takes over and bring it to me. I buy a little each month, and are collecting what I need. I can also buy from Amazon and Ebay. I recently bought a Wright Grip wrench set that I am very pleased with. Can't get that stuff, other than Snap-On, in Norway. Thanks to all people for giving advice. Williams (USA made) seems like a good option

Cannot go wrong with Williams USA.
 

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I usually look for Made in USA but needed a set of 1/2 in drive metric right now. I was at Sears with my friend as she was looking for a refrigerator to replace her broken refr so I went to the tool shop and bought a Made in china Craftsman set.
 

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Facom is cheap and the best value for money in sockets, not quite as refined as Snap On but in the same league as truck tools for sure. The are COO taiwan, but very european in design and nice chrome.

If you want something more upscale, obvious choice is Hazet/Stahlwille. Something less expensive Toptul. Most modern sockets are very good...you are paying a premium for heat treatment, quality control, maybe some closer tolerances and surface. For the most part since snap-on patent on flank drive expired all sockest have benefitted.

The value of more ergonomic designs or your favorite finish etc is eye of the beholder and a function of your budget. If you only need a single set or two of sockets you really can afford good brands, but if you need huge comprehencisve sets the truck brands are prohintively expensive and tie up a lot of capital.

Thats why you see alot of guys liking sunex impact socket sets that are huge and comprehensive but don't tie up $2000.
 

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Hi Krille:

Interesting to see someone from Bergen on here. My Mother's side of the family are from Bergen.

I am half Bjerknes (Father's side was of Swiss ancestry) My Mother was a descendant of Carl Anton and Vilhelm Bjerknes. Jacob "Jack" Bjerknes was a distant cousin.

The Bjerknes Center for Climate Research in Bergen was named in honor of Vilhelm and Jacob Bjerknes who are considered the fathers of modern meteorology.

I've never been to Norway, maybe someday.... Welcome.
 

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I don't know about anyone else, but I've been on this board for a few years now, and I'm still waiting for someone to show me their collection of HF or other cheap sockets that all "broke the first time they used them"

Any well known brand of sockets work just fine - and there are hunders of people on here that can testify to that.. You will need to go through thousands or tens of thousands of bolts before you might find one so mutilated that a sub $20 6 point socket will skip on it..
 

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I don't know about anyone else, but I've been on this board for a few years now, and I'm still waiting for someone to show me their collection of HF or other cheap sockets that all "broke the first time they used them"

Any well known brand of sockets work just fine - and there are hunders of people on here that can testify to that.. You will need to go through thousands or tens of thousands of bolts before you might find one so mutilated that a sub $20 6 point socket will skip on it..

I don't take pictures in the can when I'm done either...

Meaning I never have bothered to take a picture of a broken tool I already knew was ****. I've personally broken many harbor fright wrenches, mostly the open end, had their impacts round out in far too short a time (you can get more life by slicing off a quarter inch in the chop saw), had a hundred or so of their crappy air fittings wear out in 1/10 the time of a Milton, experienced a bearing seperator/puller bend like it was made of copper pipe (also one hole it the two piece set was skipped and not threaded), and countless other failures before I learned. Even today I pay with tools from there that are still around and don't get much use. Just yesterday I cut, or rather attempted to cut a 1/4" bolt with a pair of their bolt cutters... Nope, a chunk of the jaw plopped off in the barnyard, where it belonged. I can get you a picture of that if you really want to see, it's still in my truck where I threw it to remind myself to buy one made in the USA, but like I said... Nobody's wanted to see my **** before.
 

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I don't know about anyone else, but I've been on this board for a few years now, and I'm still waiting for someone to show me their collection of HF or other cheap sockets that all "broke the first time they used them"

Any well known brand of sockets work just fine - and there are hunders of people on here that can testify to that.. You will need to go through thousands or tens of thousands of bolts before you might find one so mutilated that a sub $20 6 point socket will skip on it..

It's always interesting the different experiences people bring to the table. If your experience is that all sockets are the same, it is very much different than mine. I see huge difference in performance between several brands of sockets I have used extensively. Same for slipping sockets when bolts round off. I have had numerous times where a cheap socket rounded a bolt out. Since I switched to better sockets, either they remove bolts better without rounding them off, or the bolts have gotten better and easier to remove since the time when I used poorer quality sockets. Since I have the same old vehicles, and getting older and more corroded, I suspect it's the tools, not the bolts that are better. I also do not have to rely on using thick, 6 point impact sockets for everything. I can use thin wall, chrome sockets, in 12 point, and rarely round anything off. Since I like using those nicer, lighter, thinner sockets, there is a definite advantage to me to having the better tools. Could I get by with cheaper tools? Yes. I proved that when I was starting out. Would I go back to them if I have a choice? Absolutely not!

I too cannot show the junk sockets I had 25 years ago, that literally broke or stretched the first time they were used. I also discarded them, and was smart enough not to buy more, but upgraded to what my father had used: Craftsman. Eventually, I found that those were not as good as some other random brand sockets I had picked up used, so I upgraded them to full sets of premium brands. I finally completed that process maybe 3 or 4 years ago when I replaced all my metric sockets and wrenches with Proto. I have noticed a marked decrease in how many failed bolt heads I have with the better sockets than I had with the lesser quality ones.

I can take pictures of the less than satisfactory Craftsman sockets that, although they did not break, demonstrated to me that they round out bolts more often than better quality ones. I can take pictures of them, because I'm slowly ebaying them to people that value them more than I do, so I sell them instead of also discarding them. I kept them for awhile to use on "tough jobs that might damage the good tools", but finally decided that was depression era poor folk mentality, and started using only the better tools, everywhere. They're made to be used, and if they wear out in my lifetime, I'd be quite satisfied that I got that much use out of them.

I can understand that you feel that HF and other less expensive tools are satisfactory for your needs, and many other peoples. What I cannot understand is the attitude that "any well known brand will work fine". It may or may not work fine, depends on what you are using them for, and how demanding that task is, and how often you repeat that task with the tool. There is a REAL difference between many brands, and for some people and some applications, that is a CRITICAL difference.

YMMV, but some people want, need, or just appreciate the performance of better tools. The difference between name brand tools isn't just marketing, although that is some of the difference in costs.
 
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