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Last month I go my sockets in pretty good shape after getting 3/8" and 1/2" drive metric impacts and 1/4" and 3/8" master chrome sets. Still have more I want to get but for now they are good. Want to get a good set of metric wrenches, maybe metric and sae if the price is right. Not looking to spend a fortune because I'm not a pro so don't make money with my tools but do want quality since cheap wrenches don't grip good and spread.

So what is a quality set of wrenches for a decent price? Would like a full set of metric for sure and if there is a good deal will get both metric and sae.
 
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Not complete set (skips 16 and 18) but doubt you will find better quality at this (or even much higher) price. I just ordered them along with other stuff to to take advantage of cheap shipping costs. Expected delivery is Oct 30.

$85 shipped to USA

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B001D30HOW/
 
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Knowing what your budget is would help answer your question better.
 

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So your best bet is used on Craigslist, or yard sales. US Craftsman can often be found for pennies on the dollar.

Here's a US Craftsman set on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-U...890430?hash=item212ef7767e:g:0IYAAOSwP6pZpcoF

US Made Husky's: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Husky-Combi...596896?hash=item2840e75f60:g:rEMAAOSwJwpZxGLp

If you must have new, and you want the best bang for the buck, here's what I recommend: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gearwrench-...170130&hash=item5d5c54478d:g:KWkAAOSwk5FUudt9


Here’s what I have found with old US made Craftsman raised panel wrenches. Broaching is really first rate, and they fit fasteners very well. Chrome is very nice, and they’re generally a fairly comfortable wrench to use. They are not the toughest wrench in the world. Something like the imports from Gearwrench will be tougher, but I have a 30+ year old set of Craftsman Raised Panel VV series, and I haven’t managed to kill a single wrench in 30 years…so take that for what it’s worth.

Regarding the Gearwrench set. They are Taiwan, which is to say; they’re damn good wrenches. I really love long pattern wrenches, and those are very nice. You will have to spend nearly double the money to get better wrenches. It’s all up to what your budget can tolerate.
 

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Wrightgrip will not spread. I have a set of the satin finish in 10-19mm. Excellent wrenches that feel good in my hand. They may be more expensive than other brands, but at this point in my life, I have finally fully embraced the term - "buy once, cry once".

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Not complete set (skips 16 and 18) but doubt you will find better quality at this (or even much higher) price. I just ordered them along with other stuff to to take advantage of cheap shipping costs. Expected delivery is Oct 30.

$85 shipped

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B001D30HOW/

+1 on those, they superb fit and one of most durable finish wrenches made.
For the price they amazing, just fill in skipped sizes if needed.
I had my series 13 metric and sae for over 25 years and they look less worn than my snapons.
Got metric series 14 (long wrench) probably 18 years ago and just got individual longs for most popular sae .

Other options exist but quality to cost these rank near or at the top .
not everyone will like the design but they rank one of best for my opinion and usage .
 

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+1 on those, they superb fit and one of most durable finish wrenches made.
For the price they amazing, just fill in skipped sizes if needed.
I had my series 13 metric and sae for over 25 years and they look less worn than my snapons.
Got metric series 14 (long wrench) probably 18 years ago and just got individual longs for most popular sae .

Other options exist but quality to cost these rank near or at the top .
not everyone will like the design but they rank one of best for my opinion and usage .

Have you used Hazet, and if so, how do they compare? I was also considering that brand.
 

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I personally think hazet don't compare.
I used wrenches, from gedore, elora, facom, original britool, mac, snapon, wright, carlyle and all the usual .
I found nothing I like more than the stahlwille 13 and 14 series for automotive and small engine work, some may dislike the more slender profile and ring offset but they just seem work where lot of wrenches struggle fit at angle needed or simply don't fit fastener as well.
I own wrightgrip as well and consider them very decent for the price .
 

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Those Stahlwille are hard to beat for the money, I like Wright as they are really strong, having at least one set with grippy open ends is useful, but they are not that cheap but worth it IMO, I also like Facom 440, Taiwan made if it bothers you, it dosent bother me, they are standard length but the most comfortable wrenches to use out there, so great for the bulk of the work, not that expensive either (this side of the Atlantic anyway.)
 

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My most used open end are Wright Tool and box end by Stahlwille. Calr Walter is in the world of its own when you really need a slender yet strong wrench.
 
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Knowing what your budget is would help answer your question better.

I don't really set budgets. I try to find the best value. Meaning the best tool for the best price. I hate tools that don't work so I don't mind paying a few bucks for quality. But at the same time I don't just open the snap on website and give them my money for everything.

I don't find my self using wrenches much. So don't want to spend a ton of money on something that is mostly just going to sit in the box. But at the same time I know from experience cheap wrenches are junk. So willing to spend some money to get a quality wrench.

Couple more questions.
1. Regular or long pattern? Or do you need both? Leaning towards the long patterns but not sure.

2. Anyone only use ratcheting wrenches for everything? Or do you still use non ratcheting for breaking nuts loose and other things?

3. What are some common things you use your wrenches on?

4. Anyone use gearwrench non ratcheting wrenches? I really like my gearwrench sockets but never tried their wrenches.

I found a gearwrench deal of long pattern 44 piece set of metric and saw along with a free 20 piece set of metric and saw stubby wrenches for 240 I think. The long set goes up to 32mm. Seems like a really complete set for a decent price.
 

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44pc gearwrench can be had at around 180 bucks so stubby not free really !
They okay, sizes are marked well and broached pretty good, bigger sizes bit chunky for my liking and fit/finish not that great for price range .
stahlwille facom mac wright and carlyle offer better product value, gearwrench warranty also a **** to use .
 

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4. Anyone use gearwrench non ratcheting wrenches? I really like my gearwrench sockets but never tried their wrenches.

I found a gearwrench deal of long pattern 44 piece set of metric and saw along with a free 20 piece set of metric and saw stubby wrenches for 240 I think. The long set goes up to 32mm. Seems like a really complete set for a decent price.

I have them and and have no complaints, but haven't used them for much. Fit and finish is great on my set, but some people said they wound up with a duplicate wrench or poor finish. They have that fancy new open end, some people dont like it. I found no issues with it thus far.
 
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Another vote for Stahlwille -

My most used wrenches are Stahlwille series 14 long pattern combination wrenches.
They're about the same length as Snap-on standard pattern, and a bit longer than most other US manufaturers' standard pattern.
Jens Puztier (GJ member) sometimes has really good deals on these.
They're really popular in Europe, and they're a kind of a cult favourite on GJ.
Comfortable in the hand, really strong, but really light weight - a real pleasure to use.

SK, Proto, and Wright (all US made) are also good. Make a short list of the brands and patterns you like and wait for the first good deal. It's usually much cheaper to buy wrenches in sets than individual wrenches, but don't buy a small set that you'll have to eventually fill out with individual wrenches or you'll lose a lot of the savings.
 

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I would look at Wright or SK for new. Have you considered used?
I have a set of SK long pattern wrenches, and they were straight up world class wrenches when I bought them almost 30 years ago. I still use them, still love them, and I'm VERY happy with them.

HOWEVER...

If I were buying today, I wouldn't buy them...and this is coming from an SK fan.

For non-ASD, my first stop would be the Bluepoint set.
For ASD it would either be Proto, or WrightGrip.
 

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Another thing to take in mind is warranty. If this is your only set especially.

I have the stahlwille, and they have a deep offset (as do many european brands). I also have SK and wright, and their offset is very mild (stand for USA style wrenches). Both are useful, just in different scenarios. Hence having both styles.

I am a big fan of my Stahlwille and Gedore wrenches, but if I only had one set, and knew I could warranty them if a problem came up, I would go with SK or Wright. Never warrantied anything with SK, but Wright were fantastic when I had some sockets with manufacturing issues. So I'd highly recommend looking at Wright but their cost is around ~150 dollars for the 15 piece metric set.
 

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Couple more questions.
1. Regular or long pattern? Or do you need both? Leaning towards the long patterns but not sure.
For SAE I have both, and I reach for the long patters first every time. Almost always, if the long pattern doesn't fit, then neither will the standard length, and you have to go to a stubby.

Long Patterns are just THE ****!!!. More leverage is almost always a good thing. If I lost all my tools tomorrow, I would want Long Pattern and Reversable Ratcheting for Metric and SAE. Throw in some cheap stubbies, and I'm good to go.

2. Anyone only use ratcheting wrenches for everything? Or do you still use non ratcheting for breaking nuts loose and other things?
For my metrics, I have old US VV series Craftsman, and Reversable Ratcheting Proto ASD/Spline combination wrenches. I reach for the Proto Ratcheting first, pretty much all the time, and the standard Craftsman wrenches only get used when I need two wrenches. If I had long pattern non-ratcheting perhaps that would be different. But I'm VERY happy with the Ratcheting.

3. What are some common things you use your wrenches on?
Most of my wrenching is motorcycles, but there are some jobs I do on my cars. I also have a small machine shop in my garage, so I use my SAE stuff on that.

4. Anyone use gearwrench non ratcheting wrenches? I really like my gearwrench sockets but never tried their wrenches.
In metric, I have a partial set of Gearwrench reversable ratcheting wrenches, and a full set of the Proto JSCV Black Chrome Reversable Ratcheting Spline wrenches. The Gearwrench wrenches are VERY good wrenches. Open ends fit fasteners well, and I have never caught them in the act of spreading. The ratcheting end works well, fits well, and I probably would have been quite happy with them had I never tried the Proto's.

The Proto's are 100% better than the Gearwrench's...and I think the GW's are very good. The ASD is freaking awesome. I recently freed an 18mm bolt with a 19mm wrench (fastener was very rusted, caked in ****...I thought it was a 19mm - 'cause I'm an idiot). That ASD just dug in and broke that thing loose after much pulling for all I was worth, and beating it with a dead blow...And I have found that the very unique spline design that Proto has is a very clever design indeed. Not only do you get the increased versatility of the spline box end for various different fasteners (and honestly, I really don't encounter those different designs anyhow). But the splines are "faceted" with like 6 sides to each spline, and a very sharp edge where the angle changes. Those "facets" dig in like tiny ASD's on the splines, so you end up with 6 edges each digging into a different side of a fastener, and they are powerful grippers for removing heavily rusted into place fasteners.

I'm not good at describing it...It's a unique spline design. On this socket you can see that the splines have 6 sides to each spline, rather than just being a continuous curve, half moon. If you ever get a chance to see this design in person, you really want to look at it, because I personally think it's brilliant, and if I were Proto, I'd be talking the hell out of this, because it does work some miracles.
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I found a gearwrench deal of long pattern 44 piece set of metric and saw along with a free 20 piece set of metric and saw stubby wrenches for 240 I think. The long set goes up to 32mm. Seems like a really complete set for a decent price.
That's basically the set I recommended in my first post, the long pattern Gearwrench. I think this is one of the best sets of imported wrenches out there. Quality is VERY good, overall design is good/comfortable. Chrome quality is first rate, broaching is very good...Good warranty, good company, and a very fair price.

In fact, I may get rid of my old US CM's and buy a set of these as my backup wrenches to my Proto ratcheting wrenches.
 

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If you can get Stahlwille cheap, and I don't care where you get them from, Germany or anywhere else, they are the best in the world. I sell TOPTUL and TOPTUL patterns their wrenches after Stahlwille as they consider them to be the world standard to which they aspire to achieve. Stahlwille now has an American warehouse and you can warrantee them domestically by sending them into there. If it's Stahwille vs. anybody the winner is Stahlwille.
 

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SK long pattern wrench set (standards are about the length of CMan RP). Seems to me I got the 9-piece in SAE (we rarely use metric) for about $130. I just purchased 3/8" drive deep impact sockets (SAE) from Wright today. I typically go with those two companies nowadays, although the earlier comment about USA CMan is a good one. You can still get those at ACE too if you have one nearby. Unbelievable value. Not SK quality, but $32? A real bargain.
 
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I bought the 44pc Gearwrench set. The set I got was made in China. But regardless of COO I thought it was really poor. I ended up returning it. Finish was not great and it looked the type that would start chipping off. Biggest thing was about half the wrenches had bends and waves and curves that were more than just subtle. A couple had bad grinds at the open ends. And one had a squashed out of round box end.

I am now in the process of choosing a couple Williams SuperCombo sets. After looking at all I could online for wrench sets the Williams looked nice. I bought one in a common size in the high polish finish to check out and try out. I really like it.

Seth
 

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If you can get Stahlwille cheap, and I don't care where you get them from, Germany or anywhere else, they are the best in the world. I sell TOPTUL and TOPTUL patterns their wrenches after Stahlwille as they consider them to be the world standard to which they aspire to achieve. Stahlwille now has an American warehouse and you can warrantee them domestically by sending them into there. If it's Stahwille vs. anybody the winner is Stahlwille.
It depends on what you're needing in a combination wrench.

For old school, non-ASD combination wrenches, I don't know of any that are better. Bluepoint's non-ASD combos are REALLY nice also, but the Stahlwille's that are linked in an earlier post are a SMOKING deal, for some really great set of wrenches. At that price, if I wanted non-ASD wrenches, I think I would be buying those.

If you wanted something with an ASD, then I'd be looking at Proto or WrightGrip.

Still, the Gearwrench long pattern wrenches I mentioned are awfully hard to beat as well.

Choices...choices...choices.

Most of the recommendations on this thread will serve you VERY well for many decades to come. So I'd say, if you go with one of those recommendations, you're going to be in great shape.
 

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I bought the 44pc Gearwrench set. The set I got was made in China. But regardless of COO I thought it was really poor. I ended up returning it. Finish was not great and it looked the type that would start chipping off. Biggest thing was about half the wrenches had bends and waves and curves that were more than just subtle. A couple had bad grinds at the open ends. And one had a squashed out of round box end.

I am now in the process of choosing a couple Williams SuperCombo sets. After looking at all I could online for wrench sets the Williams looked nice. I bought one in a common size in the high polish finish to check out and try out. I really like it.

Seth
WHOA!!!

The set I played with was made in Taiwan, and they were very good... ***** that they decided to change. That's one of the "risks" of buying from a tool company that doesn't actually make tools.
 

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In the garage, I have a the raised panels from Craftsman in metric and SAE, along with SK X frames in both. I can say that I've only had a few rp's fail on me, but then again I should have used the fire wrench first. The X frames are leaps and bounds better, but at work I use a set of SAE Blackhawk wrenches in satin finish. They were new old stock from eBay, and seem considerably stronger than the RP. If your interest in going the nos route, check out satco supply on eBay.

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If you can get Stahlwille cheap, and I don't care where you get them from, Germany or anywhere else, they are the best in the world. I sell TOPTUL and TOPTUL patterns their wrenches after Stahlwille as they consider them to be the world standard to which they aspire to achieve. Stahlwille now has an American warehouse and you can warrantee them domestically by sending them into there. If it's Stahwille vs. anybody the winner is Stahlwille.

+1 on this, facom and mac have wrenches very similar to stahlwille too but for the price of stahlwille wrenches and quality you get they are unbeatable if design to your liking .
 

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^ Anti slip design .
Basically the grooves in the open end that increase bite on fastener, many makers have their specific design/name, Wright have Wrightgrip for example .
 
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So since I can't read German, can I just order the linked stahlwille wrenches with my amazon account and they will ship to the US?
 

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They do sets of around 19pc or 11pc at 230 and 130 bucks roughly
No 8mm in the 11pc set (9mm to 19mm no skip) from what I remember
Quite decent but pricey without a promo deal.
 

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I would look at Proto ASD with Spline Ratcheting end seems to be best of both worlds.

Today I received my first - and only - Proto Spline Ratcheting Wrench, but the USA chrome version, not the one in your link. The craftsmanship is almost flawless. Feels good in the hand and I happen to like the spline thingy. Will buy a few more in the sizes I need - awesome wrenches! :)
 

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Another vote for Stahlwille. World class, and they are very responsibly priced.


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