best sealant. not epoxy

[thegarageguy]

You are just another vendor trying to sell his warez. Vulture!

So what am I selling? The only one pushing a product is you. You sound like a Euclid rep. I've never seen someone know so much about a product that they have used or experienced once. Furthermore, why would my post raise your little *** hairs if you had nothing to gain or lose?

 

[walrus]

I just spilled white oil based primer on my Euco floor, wiped right up and I can't tell where it was spilled now.

 

[Tim M]

First of all big thanks to all "the Euco reps" who posted useful information.
I picked up a 5 gallon bucket of Euco Diamond Hard for $63. $12.60 per gallon.
Air temp was about 58 deg F, slight breeze.
My slab was poured about 3 weeks ago.
Bought a brand new 4 gallon sprayer, used the fan tip.
Spayed the whole slab at once making sure to keep my feet dry. My slab is troweled tight and probably used 3 1/2 gallons(26'x42').
2 guys with big push brooms just moved the stuff around. (one guy could have easily done this). You're just trying to break the surface tension and keep spots from drying out.
After about one hour or so it started getting real slippery. Be careful!
Using the same spayer I put a light coat of water on. Broomed it maybe another 1/2 hour.
It became slippery again.
At this point I had my helper squeegee and I followed closely with a regular mop(backing our way out, staying off the freshly mopped parts). It started getting sticky as soon as the squeegee pulled the excess off. I suspect one person could handle this step if more water was applied.
The slab looks about the same but water is definitely beading up.
I plan to recoat just because I've got some left.

Also of note is that I filled the saw cuts before applying the Euco. I used Sika self leveling crack filler.

They say to wait at least 7 days after the pour before applying, but if I had to do it over I might have tried putting it down a few days after the pour before the slab got dirty.(At least a small test spot). They probably say to wait 7 days because they do not want you using it as a curing compound since it does not meet curing compound standards.

Enjoy,
Tim

 

[e36alpine]

Any updates on the use of Diamond Hard? I'm about to pull the trigger but of course I'm still not sure. haha. Thanks for all the info!

 

[rburke65]

Yes this post is over 3 years old, but the confusion goes on. Like you have to be a chemical engineer to choose a floor product.

 

[e36alpine]

Yeah I was kind of hoping one of the guys that put it on 3 years ago might still be around for an update. I officially HATE trying to decide on a flooring. I'm between this Diamond Hard or VCT tiles. Then again I think I could VCT over the diamond hard in the future if I want to. I think I read that somewhere. I'm sick of reading haha.

 

[bullnerd]

Yes, Diamond hard ,real world update would be sweet.

 

[T_Raven]

Bump. I'd like an update on this a well

 

[roche]

in for later

 

[Chucktown]

I would like an update as well. The aggregate used in my pour was limestone or some other soft material, and I'm afraid polishing it down and revealing any aggregate will be a problem. I don't want an epoxy, so I'm looking for other options.

 

[bullnerd]

Yeah I was kind of hoping one of the guys that put it on 3 years ago might still be around for an update. I officially HATE trying to decide on a flooring. I'm between this Diamond Hard or VCT tiles. Then again I think I could VCT over the diamond hard in the future if I want to. I think I read that somewhere. I'm sick of reading haha.

This! and bump

 

[rburke65]

I think I'm going to vote with rieferman and just keep my concrete the way it came out of the truck with the curing / sealer that was applied and move onto something else with the money in my pocket.

 

[Will S.]

I, too, am just about to do this. I have been researching concrete sealer and coating products for weeks, and had pretty much decided to use Euco's Diamond Hard, or their equivalent product Ultrasil Li+ when I found this thread today.

I don't know what Ultrasil costs, but it will be more, as it is simply an apply and walk away product, that I am told, is otherwise identical to Diamond Hard. My floor is 36'x48', so grinding and epoxy are just priced out of my world. Stain resistance and ease of cleanup are my main concern, and this product will do that at a price that I can live with.

I would also like to see an update from one of the guys who put this product on their concrete back in 2009, but with a product life of something like 20 years, I would think they are still pleased with it.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

If you will select a densifier, choose one with a siliconate (water-proofer) adder in it.
It does better with stain resistance than plain lithium densifier.

 

[Will S.]

If you will select a densifier, choose one with a siliconate (water-proofer) adder in it.
It does better with stain resistance than plain lithium densifier.

Thanks for the reply. I think the product I am considering, is as you describe. From their product description:

"EUCO DIAMOND HARD sealer is unique blend of silicate and siliconate polymers that penetrate concrete surfaces and chemically react to provide an increase in surface density, durability and abrasion resistance."

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

For curiosity sake, how much per gallon? Percentage lithium?
Interested to see if they are competitive.

Thanks,

 

[Will S.]

Scotty, I don't know the percentage of lithium in their product, but you may be able to find it listed on one of the spec links on their website.

 

[budl]

I, too am looking for a garage floor treatment. My 24x34 slab was poured a week ago and I would like to get some stain protection on it before I put it in use. The garage will be used as a hobby shop/hot rod garage. I would like to put a decent looking (matte to gloss) finish on it now with an eye toward a possible VCT tile job in the future just for the look. I'm not a big fan of epoxy due to my previous experience with airplane hangars. I learned that epoxy finishes are like some women, beautiful but expensive to aquire and keep looking nice. The raw finish on my slab is a trowel smooth. Left a message on Legacy's web site but haven't recieved a reply yet. Framers are coming on Mon.

Looking for durability, looks, and value. I know there are many options. Scotty?

Thanks
Bud

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Pm sent with my cell phone.

 

[77pathfinder]

Scotty, it looks like this thread died about a year ago, but I am in the same situation. Not looking to do epoxy. What did you recommend to Bud?

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

If a low-cost, lower prep, finish required solution is desired, our HD6525-MMA sealer is good.

Please keep in mind , there is a direct connection between price, prep and performance with coatings.