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Needing to upgrade my shovels, retired and doing more landscape and gardening chores. Wood or fiberglass handles? Kobalt or razorback?
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Can you expand on why? Does it not work well for your soil type? For what you're doing with it? you don't like the feel? It's too stiff?I hate fiberglass handles on yard tools. I have razorback shovels with wooden handles. They are somewhat more costly than other brands but worth it in my opinion.
My preference is Bully Tools. Made in Ohio.
Fiberglass handles and the tools are solid and well build. My wife really likes the D-handle floral spade for gardening.
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I don't like the feel. Wooden handles give better feedback in the handle if you hit something solid in the soils. Fiberglass handles seem to flex more than wooden handle shovels in hard clay soils, I don't like that either. Just personal preference I guess. I am pretty hard on shovels, broke several over the years both fiberglass and wooden handles.Can you expand on why? Does it not work well for your soil type? For what you're doing with it? you don't like the feel? It's too stiff?
I've never given much thought to a shovel. I think the one I bought 15 years ago had a lifetime warranty. I've used it for planting some ornamental trees, shurbs, and the occasional wild critter my son finds.
I bought a trench shovel a couple years ago because I was digging a trench to run downspout drain tile. I think it has a fiberglass handle. Am i missing something with the advantages/disadvantages of wood vs fiberglass vs ????
I miss the Craftsman lifetime warranty on these tools.
Wow looking at the 12 gauge shovels.... that's some heavy duty stuffMy preference is Bully Tools. Made in Ohio.
Fiberglass handles and the tools are solid and well built. My wife really likes the D-handle floral spade for gardening.
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If you like to abuse shovels like I do, forget wood and fiberglass and get one that's all steel. Fiskars makes my favorite.
Years ago, I only bought Tru-Teper No. 2 shovels. A few months ago, I looked at a new one and the blade was thin and felt cheap. Now, I don't see any that look as good as the old Tru-Temper ones.
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Bulldog known as Clarington Forge in North America, were also “forged” shovels and spades.It depends a bit on what you are using the shove for, but for the last 40+ years my go-to shovel is a pony/cap rock shovel. I'm on acreage with a LOT of plants and trees and so I am always digging up plants/trees or trying to cut through roots to dig a hole or a ditch. This type of shovel has a fairly straight angle between the head and the handle and the handles are usually weighted fiberglass or metal. So it basically acts like a vertical axe for cutting through roots. With a slight edge on the blade you can easily slice through a 1" root in a single downward one handed stroke. Also makes it easy to cut through the sod layer. No longer any need to stick the shovel in the ground and stand on it, you can just use a one-handed downward stroke. With one of these shovels there's really no need for a pointed shovel.
The weighted fiberglass or steel handle means that they are very strong for prying action and the work very well at shoveling rocks or gravel. The only slight drawback is that the head is a little smaller than a conventional shovel, so they don't move as much material as a square point shovel. The other action where this is not quite as good as a square point is for back-filled or back grading the dirt into the hole. Because of the shallow angle you have to hold the handle closer to the ground if you are trying to keep the head parallel to the grade and the rounded cross-section doesn't give you the same smoothness as a square point, but it is less curved than a round point.
They aren't cheap, but in 40+ years I have only had two of them. First one lasted 25+ years, the reason I had to buy a second one was that I had been basically using it as a pry bar on concrete slabs and ended up creating a crack in the front edge of the blade which grew over time until it really wasn't usable.
First one was an Ames, the second one is Midwest Rake. Both are forged 10 gauge heads. The original Ames was ~$60 when I bought it back in the early 80's from a commercial nursery supply, the Bullhead was ~ $85 when I bought it in the mid 2000'sfrom a plumbing/irrigation wholesale supplier. I don't see my exact shovels, Ames doesn't seem to have a fiberglass handle, only wood, and the Midwest Rake doesn't seem to have the grey fiberglass handle and no longer appears to be made in USA. Here's a couple similar ones:
Structron 10 ga. Stamped Impact Caprock Shovel, 50" Yellow Solid Fiberglass Hand
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There's a cheaper version by Bully Tools that is welded as opposed to forged and 12 gauge instead of 10:
Once you use one of these you will never go back to a conventional shovel![]()
Thank you for mention of brands, although I doubt I’d be able to purchase since shovels/spades are large snd expensive and annoying to ship.Don't want to be condescending, but those seem like a lot of money for some stamped sheet metal.
I guess people don't use shovels much in the USA? Those designs look so crappy to me, it's the one I'd always avoid in a store. I guess since most construction in the USA is with wood, primitive shovels remained more popular until today when they're primitive just because it's cheap to make them? Here, most construction is masonry and concrete and I'd hate to use a sheet metal shovel for mixing cement.
20-30€ here gets you a fully forged German/Bavarian style steel shovel with a wooden handle. The kind that will make a high pitched ring if you use it correctly with sand.
For example, the Austrian made Krenhof, the Slovene Struc Muta, or the German made Kerbl, or the ideal. The sheet metal ones that seem to be common in the USA accodring to these posts, are 15-20€ here but IMO aren't even worth that (e.g. Kerbl sells a simple one for 8-15€).
A proper forged shovelhas a steel ridge on the bottom. You don't want a ridge on top, how will you throw stuff off of the shovel smoothly otherwise???
I'm sure the bully tools do the job too, but a welded shovel still seems like an inferior design to what's available here.
Thank you for the picture.Thank you for mention of brands, although I doubt I’d be able to purchase since shovels/spades are large snd expensive and annoying to ship.
I do own a round point shovel that was supposedly German Military surplus. (One surplus store lists the shovels as East German)
The blade appears to just be heavy sheet steel, although with a welded closed socket design.
It’s not bad, but it’s not anywhere near the same as forged shovels I’ve handled.
The trademark on the shovel blade appears to be a capital “M” within a circle, with perpendicular symbol descending thru the circle into the v of the M. The Vertical bit sort of looks like an “F”, and has notches on the lower part that looks like a modern lock key.
It was a full size shovel, not an entrenching tool.
No clue if this was a normal brand, or the Military just bought cheaply.