ChargerRT
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Hey before winter gets too crazy I'm looking to find the best set of ventless gas logs I can get... Trying to keep it under $500 if I can... Let me know what you all got!
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Best Vent-less gas logs
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GirchyGirchy
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I'd go vented gas or electric before going vent-free. Mine puts out too much water vapor into the air.
GCncsuHD
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I'm interested too, two years in our house with a ventless fire box, but no logs, wife really wants them in before this winter.
I'm not sure it would be a big issue, it gets really dry around here in the winter, when I was a kid with the woodstove we always boiled a few pots of water on top to put some moisture in the air. Not looking for it to be the primary heat source anyway, the heatpump does the job except on the coldest days or if the power goes out.
I'd go vented gas or electric before going vent-free. Mine puts out too much water vapor into the air.
I'm not sure it would be a big issue, it gets really dry around here in the winter, when I was a kid with the woodstove we always boiled a few pots of water on top to put some moisture in the air. Not looking for it to be the primary heat source anyway, the heatpump does the job except on the coldest days or if the power goes out.
gregtwojeeps
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I have put these in the link in the last two houses we owned as a back up heat .... in case the furnace dies on us ( it happens) We are seniors so we like the remote control.
Knowing they are a back up heat source or for a holiday... or for quick warm ups, I never had moisture problems as we never ran them that long. Way too $$$$ to do so really in gas usage. I have always had good luck with the Cedar Ridge units. Nat. gas. and heats the whole house well when needed. 1350 sq. ft.
FWIW...... JMO
http://www.lowes.com/pd_574327-51507-CRHD24T_1z0w5uk__
Knowing they are a back up heat source or for a holiday... or for quick warm ups, I never had moisture problems as we never ran them that long. Way too $$$$ to do so really in gas usage. I have always had good luck with the Cedar Ridge units. Nat. gas. and heats the whole house well when needed. 1350 sq. ft.
FWIW...... JMO
http://www.lowes.com/pd_574327-51507-CRHD24T_1z0w5uk__
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blacksporty
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JH Peterson
I looked this up with Google. Probably meant RH PetersonJH Peterson
GirchyGirchy
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I'm not sure it would be a big issue, it gets really dry around here in the winter...
Depends on how much you use it. Google "vent free gas logs moisture" or similar. You're supposed to have a window open while using them and shouldn't use them more than 4 hours/day. Ours doesn't take any time to start condensing on the windows. They actively create large amounts of moisture.
Ironhorse74
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https://chimneysweeponline.com/hovntlss.htm
I have been in the hearth business for over 25 years. YOU COULDN'T GIVE VENT ME FREE GAS LOGS! First off they are not vent free. They vent into your living space. Second most of the byproducts from burning gas is water vapor. They dump gallons of water per hour into the living area.
Your mileage may vary.
Brad
I have been in the hearth business for over 25 years. YOU COULDN'T GIVE VENT ME FREE GAS LOGS! First off they are not vent free. They vent into your living space. Second most of the byproducts from burning gas is water vapor. They dump gallons of water per hour into the living area.
Your mileage may vary.
Brad
gregtwojeeps
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It falls back on the consumer to use any appliance for its intended purpose.
Un-vented gas logs are not designed or instructed to be...used as a homes primary heat source. Who in their right mind would put a un-vented gas log set in their FP, as their primary heat source ??? Their gas bill would be HUGE !!
They are designed to be used primarily for aesthetics or as a temporary back up heat source. This is why I buy them, this is why the people I know that bought them... did so. JMO
Un-vented gas logs are not designed or instructed to be...used as a homes primary heat source. Who in their right mind would put a un-vented gas log set in their FP, as their primary heat source ??? Their gas bill would be HUGE !!
They are designed to be used primarily for aesthetics or as a temporary back up heat source. This is why I buy them, this is why the people I know that bought them... did so. JMO
Falcon67
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We're looking at a set. My hold up is having to bore out through the side of the house to get a propane line into the hearth. We have a truck load of Mesquite we can burn - turns out my wife is allergic to it. Also, after we tightened up the house you really have to open a fair sized window to feed the fireplace which pretty much negates any heat value from burning up wood. I'm pretty sure we could manage the air draw better with vented gas. We had a nice set when we lived in Houston - really worked well. I especially like the on for a bit, OK done, turn it off. No ember worries, no dumping ash over the back fence.
>They are designed to be used primarily for aesthetics
This. I look at the BTU output strictly to figure about how much run time we'd get on a tank of fuel.
>They are designed to be used primarily for aesthetics
This. I look at the BTU output strictly to figure about how much run time we'd get on a tank of fuel.
The DOE publishes a "Sizing Guideline" for VF appliances. They rank homes as loose, average and tight construction. As well they have them as t-stat equipped or not. In Zone V (coldest) they say an average construction, T-stat would take 3.85 btu/cu ft of space, so a 20x20x8=3200x3.85=12,320 btu. A Zone III (kinda Virginia,TN) would take 2.6 btu/cu ft or 8,320 btu.
Gas logs are listed as "decorative appliances". As Falcon said, they had a set they liked a lot in Houston. You get in trouble with them when you oversize them and run them to long and don't ventilate or keep the pilot assembly clean. The log manuf or seller never uses the sizing guidelines when selling VF logs. They roll them up and use them as pointer. Reason being, big flame sells. If they made a 10 kbtu log it would look like two bic lighters on low. If you want pretty, do buy the logs. If you want comfort I'd suggest a Rinnai Fan Convector in either the 510 or 824 model. Modulating gas valve, modulating blower, t-stat, quiet and cool to the touch. Pricey, but the best. Peterson is a good outfit, btw.
Gas logs are listed as "decorative appliances". As Falcon said, they had a set they liked a lot in Houston. You get in trouble with them when you oversize them and run them to long and don't ventilate or keep the pilot assembly clean. The log manuf or seller never uses the sizing guidelines when selling VF logs. They roll them up and use them as pointer. Reason being, big flame sells. If they made a 10 kbtu log it would look like two bic lighters on low. If you want pretty, do buy the logs. If you want comfort I'd suggest a Rinnai Fan Convector in either the 510 or 824 model. Modulating gas valve, modulating blower, t-stat, quiet and cool to the touch. Pricey, but the best. Peterson is a good outfit, btw.
75gmck25
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I have purchased two sets of Peterson gas logs (one set vented, one set vent free) from Hansen Wholesale and in both cases they have provided very good service. Hansen Wholesale strongly recommends using vented instead of vent free, but they sell both.
I used the vented set in a modern prefab firebox in a home that was only a few years old. The firebox was pre-plumbed for gas and I just had to add the logs and block the damper open. I installed vent-free logs in my current 1940 vintage house because I was not sure of the condition of the old wood burning chimney and I didn't want to spend the time and money to get it relined. This burner unit has a pilot light and remote control, which is really convenient when you want to just flip it on. I think they also have an option for pilot-less ignition.
Bruce
I used the vented set in a modern prefab firebox in a home that was only a few years old. The firebox was pre-plumbed for gas and I just had to add the logs and block the damper open. I installed vent-free logs in my current 1940 vintage house because I was not sure of the condition of the old wood burning chimney and I didn't want to spend the time and money to get it relined. This burner unit has a pilot light and remote control, which is really convenient when you want to just flip it on. I think they also have an option for pilot-less ignition.
Bruce