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tncumminsguy

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Found a tool wholesaler on ebay who is only 25 mins from me. Anyway he sells some damaged tool boxes etc and I have found one or two that i'd like to buy and build myself a nice welding table with. Basically building the frame so I can have these boxes permanently mounted on. One of them is a damaged viper box, comes with no keys and is locked. What is the best way to get a box like that open?
 
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jim1987

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Flip it upside down. The latch bar will probably fall, which will let you open the drawers. Then either removed the bar or replace the key.
 

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If that doesn't work. You may have to drill out the lock. Use a small bit and open out the key hole. The object is to flatten out the pins by drilling them out. Once flat, you should be able to turn the lock with a screwdriver. Go slow, and expect to break a few bits.

Obviously, you will need to replace the lock afterwards.
 

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Actually a drill is overkill. A 1/4" flat blade screw driver is a "universal key" for most simple cylinder locks. stick i tin, twist it a few times and the cylinder will come out, the use the driver again to open the latch.
 

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You all have great idea's.
But call the manufacturer, and say you need a replacent, for a lock that is stuck, and ask how they would suggest getting it out.
Just my thoughts, little effort befor drilling, flipping, or key grinding.
 

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Insert a slotted screwdriver and twist with a pair of vise grips... Works every time. Locks are for honest people.
 

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Found a tool wholesaler on ebay who is only 25 mins from me. Anyway he sells some damaged tool boxes etc and I have found one or two that i'd like to buy and build myself a nice welding table with. Basically building the frame so I can have these boxes permanently mounted on. One of them is a damaged viper box, comes with no keys and is locked. What is the best way to get a box like that open?

I would pick it. I got a lockpick set. It's legal to own, or at least they were. I own a quick pik (not sure where I put it but it's easy to use on simple locks) and a southord pocket kit. I doubt the locks on these are that tough to handle.

But...you'll need to have it re-keyed if you plan to use the lock which costs a bit of money.

That's the clean way to do it, there are dirty ways to do it.
 
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tncumminsguy

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The boxes are both pretty beat up and might be able to buy them for 20 bucks. All I want to do is have welding supply storage for consumables and grinding stuff. Plan to build a table on casters but build the table around these boxes so it has storage. Don't care about locking them
 

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Go to YouTube and search How to pick a lock. You can do it with a couple paper clips. I mastered this method of lock picking after 20 minutes of practice.
 
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Found a tool wholesaler on ebay who is only 25 mins from me.

Comment : Reading how easy to get around locks does not make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Question : Did you find this local wholesaler by accident? I'd like to find local eBay Auctioneers who allow local pickup (to save shipping charges). Is there a way to search for locals?

TIA
Paul
 
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tncumminsguy

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Comment : Reading how easy to get around locks does not make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Question : Did you find this local wholesaler by accident? I'd like to find local eBay Auctioneers who allow local pickup (to save shipping charges). Is there a way to search for locals?

TIA
Paul

No he does shipping only, but I contacted him after getting bored on ebay and seeing what was closest to my zip code. I'm not paying 60.00 in shipping for 30 miles lol
 

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Flip it upside down. The latch bar will probably fall, which will let you open the drawers. Then either removed the bar or replace the key.

We had to do this the other day at work to get one of the new guys at work box open. He bought a Snappy box that is similar to a Classic 78, but appears to be about 20-30 years old. The lock on it seized while it was locked. It locked fine but would not unlock when he tried to open it the next morning. Our Snappy dealer came by with a new key to try to open it but that didn't work. Luckily the guy who owns the box is pretty green and doesn't have many tools, so flipping it wasn't too hard, but it worked!

After flipping it and removing the drawers he put an entire new lock in it.

-Will
 

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It's going to depend on the box and the lock used. What boxes are we talking about. Picking it is pretty easy and going to be least destructive, I start with that. On the older quality boxes the screwdriver "trick" can be pretty damaging depending on the construction of the box.
 

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I buy old keys at garage sales and such and throw them in a organizer drawer. Whenever I pick up a locked toolbox I pull out the keys and go to work trying each one until the lock opens. I've got a pretty good track record of finding a key that works!
 

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Viper will sell you a key for a few bucks but you must have a receipt, invoice or something proving you own the box and fax them a copy along with the number on the lock.
 

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Take it to a locksmith. I would pick them for free if you bought the keys. Flipping them upside down still won't get you keys.
 
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Comment : Reading how easy to get around locks does not make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Question : Did you find this local wholesaler by accident? I'd like to find local eBay Auctioneers who allow local pickup (to save shipping charges). Is there a way to search for locals?

TIA
Paul

Well...they sell bolt cutters in lowe's and home depot for less than 50 bucks that can likely cut through the shackle on a regular master lock so...:lol:

Locks aren't really to stop theft they're to stop someone who is too stupid to figure out how to defeat the security measure and/or to make it not worth their time. What good is a locked box if they can just winch or lift the whole box it into their truck bed and deal with it later, right?:dunno:
 

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Man, y'all are scaring me...i got somewhere near 10k worth of box, tools, and a roll cart in another man's shop...my snappy box's lock seems hard to pick...but my hf cart's lock ain't...and I keep the key to my good box in that one...damn...
 

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Comment : Reading how easy to get around locks does not make me feel warm and fuzzy.
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Locks only keep the honest people honest.

Go to YouTube and search How to pick a lock. You can do it with a couple paper clips. I mastered this method of lock picking after 20 minutes of practice.

Yep, this can work with most inexpensive cylinder locks also. bend one into a "Sawtooth" shape and the second into a hook to turn the cylinder, wiggle pick one on the lock wafers, while putting side pressure on with the hook once the 3-4 wafers catch, it's open...

It's going to depend on the box and the lock used. What boxes are we talking about. Picking it is pretty easy and going to be least destructive, I start with that. On the older quality boxes the screwdriver "trick" can be pretty damaging depending on the construction of the box.

Partly true; most cheap locks simply disintegrate. No damage a good well made one might cause some collateral damage.

I buy old keys at garage sales and such and throw them in a organizer drawer. Whenever I pick up a locked toolbox I pull out the keys and go to work trying each one until the lock opens. I've got a pretty good track record of finding a key that works!

I've also done this: more importantly I often find the exact key I need... People don't realize they only make a small number of keys for locks. Even Ford in the 1960s had maybe 100 actual different keys. I and my HS drafting teacher "shared" the same key for our cars... I happened to look down at his car keys and recognized "my" key on his ring... and started laughing. He was amused at the coincidence, (might not have been so amused if he hadn't trusted me...)

Well...they sell bolt cutters in lowe's and home depot for less than 50 bucks that can likely cut through the shackle on a regular master lock so...:lol:

Locks aren't really to stop theft they're to stop someone who is too stupid to figure out how to defeat the security measure and/or to make it not worth their time. What good is a locked box if they can just winch or lift the whole box it into their truck bed and deal with it later, right?:dunno:

Yep more of the same: you can't really stop them, just make it more difficult or increase the danger of being caught...

Man, y'all are scaring me...i got somewhere near 10k worth of box, tools, and a roll cart in another man's shop...my snappy box's lock seems hard to pick...but my hf cart's lock ain't...and I keep the key to my good box in that one...damn...

Buy a matching cylinder to your "good" box and carry one key. I can guarantee the HF cylinder is trash.
 

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Insert a slotted screwdriver and twist with a pair of vise grips... Works every time. Locks are for honest people.

sad but true. i had a friend who had his lock drilled out with a cordless drill. gone in less than 30 seconds.
 
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