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PureLeaf

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Tried using the search feature, can't find any definitive information.

I'm interested to know what the country of origin/manufacture on Beta tools is. Does anyone know? None of their tools are stamped with it, which suggests Taiwan or PRC to me.

Appreciate any help.

Thanks!
 
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Thank you!

I did receive this email when contacting them through Amazon:

"Thank you for the inquiry. The ratchets and sockets are all made in Italy. The cantilever boxes are made in China to Beta's specifications and quality standards.
Let me know if I can help in any other way. "

Nice to know they're italian! Shame they don't stamp them as such.
 

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Thank you!

I did receive this email when contacting them through Amazon:

"Thank you for the inquiry. The ratchets and sockets are all made in Italy. The cantilever boxes are made in China to Beta's specifications and quality standards.
Let me know if I can help in any other way. "

Nice to know they're italian! Shame they don't stamp them as such.

pretty sure some of their new wrenches are PRC made...
 

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I bought a bunch of metric sliding T-handles with swivel 8mm, 10mm, 12mm, 14mm and 17mm sockets attached and they're made in Italy.
 

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Made all over the shop, hence why the don't stamp COO.
Avoid Beta Easy line, all or mostly the cheap China stuff.
Some things are definitely Italy, torque tools are mostly Norbar or Torqueleader (England)
Some speciality sockets are Koken (or at least were not long ago)
Their T handle tools are excellent and they make a comfortable screwdriver
 
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Follow up to this: The Beta "Easy" line is produced in China or Taiwan.

I have been told by their VP that their Inox tools are all made in Italy.
 

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Has anyone used any of their tools? Are the 72 tooth ratchets any good?
They aren't cheap that's for sure. Figure cost of shipping on top of that...
 

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I've got a bit of Beta stuff, and a company I used to work for had a lot, mainly 'cos a local dealer stocked it!

You have to bear in mind that Beta offer a huge range, and generally offer 2, sometimes 3, different levels of quality! Beta 'easy' is the cheapo line, think of it as Beta's blue point. I've always assumed made in China or Taiwan. For the price, it has to be!

Their mid tier stuff seems to be mostly made in Italy. Although the tools are not marked with C.o.o. it is, or used to be, on the packing! All the wrenches I've seen were Italian made, as were the socket sets. The mid tier wrenches are solid enough, but the finish isn't great by U.S. standards. Think of them as an 'industrial' tool, or perhaps a substitute for the old Craftsman and you won't be far wrong. I bought a 3/4 drive set on a special deal and it's been great! Packing was clearly marked 'Made in Italy'.

The top end tools, some of which they call Beta 'Max' mostly seem to be Italian too. Company had a set of their Torx drivers and they were pretty good, also some of their 'Pro' wrenches, same applied! The top end socket sets are re badged KoKen and made in Japan. Nothing wrong with these, but you might as well get them from KoKen and cut out the middle man!

So, if you're new to Beta, give it a go, it's mostly decent stuff but... don't expect to buy the cheapest Beta 'easy' (probably on a deal too) and expect to get top quality tools!
 
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I have a bit of Beta as well.

My opinion on their must-haves/standout tools in their lineup:

1. P-handle or sliding T-handle hex wrenches - easily the best in the business, only company that forges their hex tools anymore. Heads and shoulders above anything I've seen from PB Swiss/Eklind/Bondhus/etc.
2. anything w/ a comfort grip - screwdrivers, pliers, ratchets...the most comfortable I've used. Even if it's not the hardest tips or smoothest ratchets, they're easily my go-to because they get the ergonomics right, every damn time. My Wiha screwdrivers have better tips, and my Knipex pliers have harder jaws, but the Betas are in my hand wayyyy more than anything else because of ergos alone.


I have a bit of their sockets, the markings are very large and etched clearly, which makes it way easier to read, although I reach for my Koken ZEAL sockets more these days. I have their combination wrenches, also good, but nothing that makes them stand out in a crowded market.

I have some more screwdrivers and things on order, but I'm not sure what else they offer that stands out.
 

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The only pic I have of my how the handles are on the Beta, but they're wide and round, which distributes the load on your hand very well.

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Clean broaches,


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Even the goofball oiling can is made in Italy. My acetone/ATF mix stripped the orange paint right off of it though, I was hoping it'd be a little more resilient than that.


The Beta MAX screwdrivers are tri-lobal, fantastic in the hand. I have Wera, Wiha, Vessel, Witte, SK, Craftsman, Stanley, and Tekton, and the Betas will come out first. Oddly, the Stanleys are also tri-lobal, and feel very good as well, the tips are garbage though. The square handles on the SK are downright barbaric to use.



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Betas behind some Koken ZEALs.



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My travel tool kit.


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With some of the other drivers.
 
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I have been told by their VP that their Inox tools are all made in Italy.

wow, you have some connections...

THE VP himself told you that?

I had to work with beta for a few years.. didn't enjoyed it much.

I would rather buy toptul or some other taiwan brand than beta .

Anything made in italy I ever owned was ****, or... close, let's say if it worked it didn't work for too long.

just go and visit Italy, they try to rob you the day you enter the country.

want to buy tools... stick to "made in Germany" , can't go wrong, it's not like you'll find cheaper "made in Italy "
 

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Not sure if they're "known for" their punches and chisels, but they've held up well to my abuse. Picked these up from Amazon when they decided to dump all their Beta inventory. They've held up a lot better than my Mayhew stuff, which is now all rusty.


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wow, you have some connections...

THE VP himself told you that?

I had to work with beta for a few years.. didn't enjoyed it much.

I would rather buy toptul or some other taiwan brand than beta .

Anything made in italy I ever owned was ****, or... close, let's say if it worked it didn't work for too long.

just go and visit Italy, they try to rob you the day you enter the country.

want to buy tools... stick to "made in Germany" , can't go wrong, it's not like you'll find cheaper "made in Italy "

lol. Glad to see racism is still rampant.
 

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lol. Glad to see racism is still rampant.

what?

wth ... it's not about race, I just think they're better at making pasta than tools that's all.

Italy also produces some fine things , it's just beta not one of them... Ferrari , MV Agusta ...

If you had owned an italian car (not exotic) you would feel the same, any screw in a Fiat is one time use... helicoil is your friend and can't go anywhere without roadside assistance.
(never enjoyed my bicycle so much till I got a Fiat)

And I rechecked some prices from Beta... well I can buy German or Swiss tools for same or bit less money.. so what's the point?
 

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Heres my car. Fine Italian craftsmanship!!

Funny thing, I had an Integralle years ago... how's your cams? oil rails? good?

oil pump still working? well you must have some rod bearings left than :)

I still love that car and dream about it sometimes.

Oh A pillars ? how big is the crack?
 

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An A+ condition Evo1 homologation model!! Only issue you really have is ridiculously low cam belt change interval...

For a minute there i thought you were in the usa who didnt allow the integrale in!! Plenty of them in the awesome land of tulips!!

Hows the coffee shop scene? I still dream of a small place called the baloo cafe in amsterdam just off Dam square.. i can taste the chocomel now...
 

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An A+ condition Evo1 homologation model!! Only issue you really have is ridiculously low cam belt change interval...
how about the 5mm clearance to change that belt?

you can make 15-20 hp only from timing

did you cut the balancing cams belt yet?

what turbo do you have on?

Mine was never A+ condition, went to hill climb with it ... too bad it was well before camera phones :(

Your's a beut though, I would keep it as stock as possible.
They go 40-50k Euro + now in A condition... if you can find one.

For a minute there i thought you were in the usa who didnt allow the integrale in!! Plenty of them in the awesome land of tulips!!

Hows the coffee shop scene? I still dream of a small place called the baloo cafe in amsterdam just off Dam square.. i can taste the chocomel now...

Always wondered how much money I would have made in US with my little bomb, just put a wv badge on it .

Chocomel :) can't find any chocomel in my Amsterdam memories :)
 
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wow, you have some connections...

THE VP himself told you that?

I had to work with beta for a few years.. didn't enjoyed it much.

I would rather buy toptul or some other taiwan brand than beta .

Anything made in italy I ever owned was ****, or... close, let's say if it worked it didn't work for too long.

just go and visit Italy, they try to rob you the day you enter the country.

want to buy tools... stick to "made in Germany" , can't go wrong, it's not like you'll find cheaper "made in Italy "

It was the VP of their North American branch. He's been the one replying to any email questions I had via Amazon's 'contact us' to Beta North America. Very nice and helpful. He also allowed me to return a purchase of the Beta "easy' socket set after we had an initial confusion and I thought they were Italian made. Once he said sorry, the easy is Chinese, the other types are Italian, I returned them and he was very understanding.


I'm interested in Beta tools, especially those comfort grip ratchets but at the price of their tool sets, I think I could get Snap On cheaper even... So if Beta wants to make any in roads, I'd say they really need to cut down their price or really have a unique offering to demand that price point. I'm happy buying USA made tools (which are MUCH cheaper than Beta), just enjoy giving new brands at shot at new and different approaches!
 
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