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A few weeks ago we had a few nice days before a cold front moved in. I took one whole entire day to cleaned up both the combined for the winter.B6180F88-04CC-4CE2-8C2D-A4A0067B3C10.jpegit took the entire day to do both. I even kind of rushed it too. Blew all the dirt off of them both and gave them each a bath. Now they’re ready for dealer inspections. Need to clean the cabs out and give them a good greasing. The 9500 is also due for a full service.
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The following day it didn’t rain as it was supposed to do. I washed off the sprayer and winterized it for the season.
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Cleaned the headers all off too. We took the beans headers back to the barn to be stored for the season. The corn head is at dad’s yet as it’s going to be needing some work.
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We put things away in the shed for now. It’s nice having some more room now that there aren’t any old tractors in this part of the shed. Now to get the wagons and spreader out. Spreader is done til spring. The auger wagons are getting new tarps. The green side board wagon needs moved to a different shed. Other than that things are pretty much tucked away for winter.
 
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You may recall we had some tornadoes moved through the area awhile back. For the most part we didn’t actually have any damage. But we did have some wind damage for sure.
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We had several limbs down in the driveway. Luckily, none were on the fences.
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But this was worse.
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I didn’t think about it, neither did dad. But our 71’ auger with the swing away hopper to unload truck and fill bins was still up on a bin. The bin was full. It was closed up. We’d planned to move it one day but it didn’t work out. It was even hooked to the 2520 ready to move.
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When it blew over the pin hooked to the tractor snapped. So the tractor was fine. But the auger was done for.
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We had to take it apart to get it moved.
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We had everything apart and loaded it on a trailer to get things back to the shop. We awaited to hear what insurance was going to do. But regardless we had to get a different one to finish out the season. At the time we still had beans to cut and had one more small bin to fill.
 
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We did end up getting a new auger. We got a little out of insurance. But definitely not enough to cover the cost of a new one. For the record is wasn’t there auger we just relaxed the tube and auger on this summer. That was the 51’. The one turned over was the 71’.
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This is an AGI (the bought out Westfield the brand of the old auger) is a 10” auger like the old one, but 73’ so it’s 2’ longer. It’s also built a lot heavier. I don’t care for the scissor lift on it. But they say they’re built a lot better than the old ones. But it’s essentially the same auger as what we had. It’s also the same exact auger as 3 other brands. Just a different color with a different logo.

Ive seen newer ones like this one. It’s the same but there are some somewhat subtle differences between this and our old one that I like a lot more. A little more user and maintenance friendly. Deere engineers could learn something from these auger people.
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The cover for the hopper has just a rubber piece for a hinge. It also stays closed with a pin in place. The old one had a regular hinge, that I’m sure would end up bent if the cover caught something. The old one used to stay closed with two square pieces with lock nuts. The new designs is much easier as you have to open this cover every time you grease it because there are 4 grease fittings in it.
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Where the hopper auger meets the main auger has a much better design as well. The cover on top has to be open to grease a fitting and allows you to check gearbox oil. This one has 2 latches you can quickly undo. The old one had a cover held in place by springs that you had to pull open. It was only good for finger pinching and hand smashing. Occasionally, a spring on the cover would come loose and fly off as well. Also, the new design has a plastic tube when the hopper auger connects to the main auger. It seals things up well. The old design was just metal to metal which allowed a gap. The gap allows rain and moisture in all the time which leads to the next feature.
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The auger clean out. The old cover used to have lock nuts. They’d end up rusty lock nuts making them that much harder turn which would often cause them to cross thread which would really make them fun. The new one has each latches to pop loose. Fast and easy.
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The last bin was a small bin that only held 4 loads. So we didn’t really even hardly get it broke it. Just got it a little dusty is all.
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It’s a little longer, little wider, little heavier. But hopefully this one should last us awhile. A little unplanned spending, but we didn’t really have much of an option.
 
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When we were finishing working ground dad noticed oil on the 8400. He was almost done with field so we kept going. He’d blown a hose on the tractor. It hadn’t lost much oil but the hydraulics wouldn’t hardly life the chisel plow anymore. So I told him to stop.
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We were done with it. So I washed it up. I pulled it in the shop. It’s due for an oil change and there’s a few other repairs to do to it that’s been on my list as well.
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I knew one of the hoses to the secondary hydraulic pump had blown but I wasn’t sure which one. But I didn’t have any pressure at the SCV’s to operate anything and the hitch wouldn’t raise either. I was starting to wonder if the wasn’t an issue with the pump. Also, those plugs work great for plugging off those 4 bolt flange (code 61 or whatever you want to call them) fitting that they don’t have regular caps and plugs for.
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The one fitting I even had to have a mirror cuz I couldn’t see ****. Crowfoot and wrenches had to be used for 5 of the 6 fittings. The one largest, requiring a 1-7/16” wrench was in a tight spot under the cab. It was seized and wouldn’t break loose. I didn’t have room to use a breaker bar anywhere. I had to use my 1-7/16” crowfoot with a 24” 1/2” drive extension and hooked it to the air impact. Finally got it too budge with that but it wasn’t easy either.

But I had new hoses made and put them on. But still no hydraulics. I checked all the switches in the cab. They all check out fine. No fault codes. I wasted a day check electrical and other things. But I can’t figure it out. I’m worried it’s the pump. Which regardless of whether I take it off and rebuild it or swap it with a remanufactured pump it won’t be cheap. But a mechanic from the dealer is supposed to come check it out this week.
 

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I dig it! I've been reading through this thread and it's been great learning how this all works. I really have no idea how farming works. Thanks for sharing!
Also, glad the new auger is working out. What's the plan for when another storm rolls through? How would you secure it from tipping over like the last one?
 

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Enjoyed the updates. Glad you all had a successful harvest.
Also, I really like the 2-cyl collection.
Was just south of you last week picking up my grandfathers' JD 420 to restore.
 
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I dig it! I've been reading through this thread and it's been great learning how this all works. I really have no idea how farming works. Thanks for sharing!
Also, glad the new auger is working out. What's the plan for when another storm rolls through? How would you secure it from tipping over like the last one?
Thanks.

Usually the augers aren’t anything to worry about. But this one was still set up to fill a bin. So the end of it was up over 30 foot up in the air. That combined with it sitting in the perfect direction to catch winds from a storm that had just been a tornado is what did it in. When the augers aren’t in use they’re sitting much lower so tipping over isn’t really a concern.
 
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Enjoyed the updates. Glad you all had a successful harvest.
Also, I really like the 2-cyl collection.
Was just south of you last week picking up my grandfathers' JD 420 to restore.
Thanks.

Where at? You could’ve stopped by and I may have gave you another one just to get it out of my way.
 
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A few weeks ago. Since we were finally done with everything I needed to mow around all the fields. I’d had a little of that job done but had a lot more to do. So one morning I decided I was going to get started. But it only lasted about 10 minutes. 04A8F158-BA4E-4EC2-8E15-3A1C34E0F9B6.jpegCA03F2DE-DC35-4095-972D-9BBC7F12379F.jpegDamn yoke and u-joint broke. Naturally I didn’t have it. The wings take a different u-joint than the center drive. I didn’t have that particular yoke either.

I got the new parts right away. Figured I might as well replace both u-joints on that driveline while I had it apart. I had to end up doing a few other things that day. So I didn’t get started on repair til later in the day.
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It’s hard to tell in the picture but the yokes on the other end were twisted. Not much. The old u-joint must’ve bent along with them. But they were bent just enough that I couldn’t get a new u-joint to go in. Old one was already knocked out of there. So that meant 2 more new yokes. That was expensive.
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Had plenty of jobs to do in between plus I had to wait on parts. But it cost over $1,000 to redo that driveline. No you can’t buy it as a whole either. Is there a cheaper alternative? Maybe something like A&I but if you go back in the thread you’ll see the cheaper ones don’t last long at all. It’s really no savings. These yoke pieces also aren’t something you can just pick up at O’Reilly’s either.
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If I get a different setup I’m going to have to add some lights to it.
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So it was ready to go again.
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Continuing from above…
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Mowing is basically all I’ve done for the last 2 days. I’ve probably got just over 1 more full day.
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Only issue I had was one of the air bags loosing some air. But the little 20v DeWalt worked good to fix that issue.
 
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Oh! Also on this brush hog job I tried something new.
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I think I’d posted I’d picked up these u-joint tools from Tiger Tool. I ordered them at the beginning of June and didn’t get them until mid October. USELESS!

They absolutely do not fit on the yokes. At least not these. But that’s supposed to be what they’re made for. They’re so big and bulky they can’t even fit in between the yokes. They won’t fit on the yokes. Absolutely useless. So much so that I actually contacted them and told them I want to return them. I have to pay to ship them back. But for what they cost I’m not keeping them to sit around and do nothing.

I know I wasn’t using them the wrong way. There’s only one way for them to work. Maybe they’ll work somewhere. But not here.
 

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Thanks.

Where at? You could’ve stopped by and I may have gave you another one just to get it out of my way.
Funny - just say the word and I'll gladly take one off your hands!
Picked up the 420 in Gordonville. Stopped in Perryville @ Bucheit's to get some ammo and diesel at the MotoMart.
My great-grandparents had a farm near Old Appleton.
Looking for a small farm down in the bootheel to have a place closer to visit with my aging parents.
 

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"That combined with it sitting in the perfect direction to catch winds from a storm that had just been a tornado is what did it in."

Also keep in mind when you have bins sitting side by side, the sides act as a funnel increasing the force going between the bins. Take a few minutes and try to set up with the bin blocking the prevailing winds for your area. One of my customers lost an 8 day old 10" Westfield.

True to form, they fell in mud and came out clean ... insurance totaled out the unit and they bought the salvage for $500. Swing augar, pto gearbox and was not damaged.
 
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Funny - just say the word and I'll gladly take one off your hands!
Picked up the 420 in Gordonville. Stopped in Perryville @ Bucheit's to get some ammo and diesel at the MotoMart.
My great-grandparents had a farm near Old Appleton.
Looking for a small farm down in the bootheel to have a place closer to visit with my aging parents.
I’d get rid of some of them if I could!

Well you were rather close then. Who did the job on the 420?
 
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"That combined with it sitting in the perfect direction to catch winds from a storm that had just been a tornado is what did it in."

Also keep in mind when you have bins sitting side by side, the sides act as a funnel increasing the force going between the bins. Take a few minutes and try to set up with the bin blocking the prevailing winds for your area. One of my customers lost an 8 day old 10" Westfield.

True to form, they fell in mud and came out clean ... insurance totaled out the unit and they bought the salvage for $500. Swing augar, pto gearbox and was not damaged.
Well this was actually on a bin that stands alone. No other bins around it. But it’s on a hill basically in the middle of a field with nothing around it. So it caught some wind. But you are definitely right about the funnel effect in between bins for sure. We definitely didn’t come out the greatest on ours. Especially, after a $2,000 deductible.
 
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In between mowing today a Deere mechanic did come check out the 8400. I’d replaced those hoses and still had nothing.
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He had the big fancy gauge set up. As well as the $900 digital OTC gauge that can do the real low pressure readings.
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So he had the parts department get one on the way for me. Another job to put on the list.
 
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Last few little side notes and we’re all caught up for now.
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Day after thanksgiving we did a little rabbit hunting. I only managed to be in the right spot once. I had plenty of other thing to do but I decided to go since my nephew was going with us.

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One last note I forgot to include. I’ve been expanding my bottle opener collection. Added a lot of Wera openers. Bummed I couldn’t get a Wera advent for this year. It had a special opener in it. Hoping I can find some more tool openers. I know I’ve got a Milwaukee somewhere, but I don’t know where it’s at.
 

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(In Gordonville), I was buying the tractor unfinished, will finish it up at home.

Nice hat collection. Even though I don't buy seed, the Southeasten CoOp guys normally give me a hat or two when I stop in and inquire. Good folks.
 
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(In Gordonville), I was buying the tractor unfinished, will finish it up at home.

Nice hat collection. Even though I don't buy seed, the Southeasten CoOp guys normally give me a hat or two when I stop in and inquire. Good folks.
Got ya. So you’ve got a new project then?

I get more every year. I actually just went through several hats I’ve had for years. Hats I’ve never even worn before that are a bunch of “free” hats I’ve received in the last 10 years or so. They’re all getting donated.
 
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Started the day getting things ready to do some more mowing.
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I checked the weather when I woke up this morning, as usual. Out of nowhere this morning there was a slight chance of rain. But it looked like it was going to be a light rain. But before I could start mowing it was just about here. But it was more than just a light rain.
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It ended up raining pretty hard. Even had lightening and thunder. It was the type of storm you have in June, not the first day of December.

So there was a change of plans. Most of the big calves still needed their second round of vaccines. That job was never done before fall.0B5FA8EF-4CC7-496B-85F1-41C60FE185BC.jpegWe ran them all in the barn and gave them their shots. They were not cooperating very well at all today.0483D92D-2DF2-40AF-AE1A-7FED4C8E8440.jpegThis picture looks better than it did in person. But one of the calves decided to not go in the barn and went under the gate. Bent the hell of it.
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There were 11 heifers with those calves. They were from the group of calves before this last one. We separated them from the group and are keeping them out to keep and raise for heifers. They’ll likely be put with our young red and white bull.

After we took care of the calves I checked on the rest of the cattle.
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Loaded up corn and fed them all. My goal was to try and get them all locked up in the lots so we can finally ween some calves.
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The DeWalt compressor is really coming in handy this week.
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I got most of the cattle locked up. But this little guy was laying out in the middle of the pasture all by himself. So he took a little ride with me back to the cattle. I can’t believe he actually stayed on the Kubota. It wasn’t easy but we made it.

So now that it rained the plan is to work with the cattle tomorrow. Mowing will have to wait another day.
 
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Today we weened calves as planned. Don’t have a ton of pics. But we weened 24, technically 25 calves all together.
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Moved them over to my uncles. Had hay out for them, strawed the barn and fed them corn. Overall it was a fairly smooth process this morning. Separated them all out and had them all moved by about noon.

While in the process we also culled 4 old cows as well.
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All old cows that don’t look worth a damn. One with her calf as well. Cow isn’t in good shape so that means the calf isn’t either. This little red calf I’m pretty sure as born back in early October, it hasn’t grown at all. It gets around fine, doesn’t appear to be sick, just isn’t getting the milk it should be getting.
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So they little red calf we put in the barn to be with the other two calves. Don’t know if we’ll be able to get it to take a bottle at this point but at least we’ll be able to get it started consistently eating grain and hay.
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For now we put the 4 old cows in with those young heifers, we separated yesterday and the young bull. The old bull that hasn’t been doing well is in there with them as well. We’ll likely be getting rid of the old bull and 4 cows next week. Just haul them to the auction barn and hope we get a few bucks for them.
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We made majorly unseasonably warm day today. I don’t know for sure but I’m pretty sure it was pushing mid 60’s. Not very often you can go in just short sleeves in December. Clear and sunny all day. The jacket didn’t stay on very long this morning.
 
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This evening I decided I’d look into getting things ready to put that new secondary hydraulic pump on the 8400. No word on it yet. I’m sure they ordered it on stock order and we likely won’t get it until mid next week.

I drained the oil front the rear. Drained the oil from the transmission. I haven’t looked at the bottom of the buckets, but it appeared to be clean. I actually just changed it and the filter this spring.

On this job, not knowing what happened with the hydraulic pump, I’d planned to just change the oil and filter again anyway. It has to be drained to remove the pump as well. The mechanic suggested it as well. Especially because that way I can inspect the screen in the rear end and transmission to see if there was any metal running through the hydraulic system as well.

Drain plugs were out. The hydraulic filter goes on sideways. So I set a pan under it and loosened it up enough just to let it drain out as much as possible before I pulled it off. I took a look at it, shined the light on the pan. I got a little nervous. I was pretty sure it looked a bit metallic.
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Sure enough it did. It looked like I was gold panning glitter.

I took the filter completely off and it didn’t get any better.
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After doing that I got a little nervous. I’m hoping this didn’t cause a bunch of damage elsewhere in the system. I guess on the bright side the filter is definitely filtering.

I just left it at that. I’m hoping sometime tomorrow I can pull those screens and inspect them. Then empty the drained oil from the buckets and inspect those to see if there was a bunch of metal in all that oil as well. I also plan to cut the filter open to see what the rest of it looks like inside. I’m just assuming if that much poured out the filter itself must be packed full. It doesn’t look good. We’ll see what the rest of it looks like. Might have to have Deere do a full system clean out on it and inspect things closer.

I’m hoping it works out tomorrow I’ll have time to get everything off of the pump and ready to take off. I think it’s going to be a pain. It’s mounted with two 12 point head bolts. The way the pump is made you can’t fit a socket on the heads of the bolts either. The bottom I can get with a wrench easily enough. But the top one is going to be difficult. There’s a line in the way a it’s impossible to get a regular wrench on it. Not sure what I’m going to have to do with it yet.

Just another day…
 
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Dad picked up some supplement this evening that we use for batches of feed. He brought back an early Christmas present that we each got from where we get our mineral and supplement.
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Not super fancy but I’ll take it over a calendar and/or a hat. It’s nicer than the cheap little plastic scaled knives we get each year from the Pioneer guy.
 
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I don’t doubt it will be getting better. I started taking things apart today to see how bad it is. Definitely got to be something from the pump. But I’m not sure what. Got things prepped to take it off. But didn’t get it off yet today.
 
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Yeah, I don't think your going to get lucky with that hydraulic problem.

I'm wondering why it looks like gold though?
Yeah, I don't think your going to get lucky with that hydraulic problem.

I'm wondering why it looks like gold though?

It looks like brass to me. What is brass in the pump?

I'm guessing a bushing went out
I’m definitely looking into how bad it is. I really really don’t like the looks of it.
 

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****, yeah, that's not good.
This stuff gets worked pretty hard....how old was that and I wonder how warranty works on machinery like this?
 
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Today started with checking on the cattle. Fed the calves and the heifers. Luckily, I got dad to put out hay and mineral.

The Pioneer guy came by this morning to get our seed order.

Had to make some stops in town. A few unplanned stops as well.

New hydraulic pump came in today.
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I went to pick it up. Also got the new o-rings for it where I mounts to the tractor as well as for the fittings that go on it.

Yesterday I’d drained the oil. So I inspected buckets the oil was in. Luckily it doesn’t appear there’s any metal in the transmission. So I’m hoping that means it didn’t make it into the main pump. So hopefully that means there’s nothing in the transmission, main pump, or the steering system. But there was definitely some metallic material in the rear end.
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I’d cut open the filter today after it drained over night. After what I saw pour out if it and seeing it cut open it had to be about full.
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I disconnected the hoses and lines going to the secondary pump. I undid another line going to the rear end. But I’m going to have to undo another to even get on the top bolt to unbolt the pump. Unfortunately, I didn’t have time to take it off this evening to inspect the pump. I had to get going.

Im hoping to get back to it a little bit tomorrow. We’ll see if it was just the pump. Not sure why the color or what it is. But I’m not sure it’s brass because I swore some was sticking to my magnet yesterday.
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I’ve got a nice mess of crowfoot wrenches over my toolbox. Of corse everything has to be a different size. Naturally the hose fittings can’t just break loose. It’s a classic case of the port fitting breaks loose first instead of the hose fitting. Aggravating ****!
 
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I think this was a problem I addressed awhile back. 4857A2D6-298E-4CBD-9B9D-281D65B1AE5E.jpegI’ve got to do something different, especially for draining full systems, than 5 gallon buckets. They’re a pain in the *** to empty and I always end up with a mess.
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Floor dry everywhere. Oil everywhere. Buckets covered in oil and dirt. Going back and forth to empty buckets. Get empty buckets. Then you take out plugs, undo lines and hoses. Things are dripping everywhere. It drives me crazy.

I need to come up with something I can put under something. Drain everything. Something that’ll hold 20-30 gallon. Big enough to catch everything. Then something I can hook up a Macnaught BOP to and empty it into our waste oil container.
 

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I think this was a problem I addressed awhile back. I’ve got to do something different, especially for draining full systems, than 5 gallon buckets. They’re a pain in the *** to empty and I always end up with a mess.

Floor dry everywhere. Oil everywhere. Buckets covered in oil and dirt. Going back and forth to empty buckets. Get empty buckets. Then you take out plugs, undo lines and hoses. Things are dripping everywhere. It drives me crazy.

I need to come up with something I can put under something. Drain everything. Something that’ll hold 20-30 gallon. Big enough to catch everything. Then something I can hook up a Macnaught BOP to and empty it into our waste oil container.

Take a 500L or 1000L cage tote and cut off the top of the metal and the tote plastic leaving about 6 or 8". Then go get some scrap steel to make a frame to go through the pallet holes on the bottom of the tote. Then get some casters and weld them onto the frame so its portable. Now you've got a large collection tank that you can easily move around the floor. And with the 2" valve on them you can empty them pretty fast. It won't be the prettiest thing but it works pretty well.
 
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