bicycle tool kit?

[dogdog]

Have a Murray mountain bike, for years as an exercise bike, then left out door for years. Trying to restore it, R&R.. chain and sprockets etc are rusted. frame still good, some of the bolts are rusted, and grease needed. etc.

I have all the sockets. wrenches ... but bicycle specific like chain breaker I don't have.

Is this what I needed for everything ?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082PSKQQF/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[bpjr]

You might get lucky and only need those tools..but they are the same china made tools that are sold in the cheap bike repair tool sets sold on ebay. Price is about the same but the ebay sets have way more tools. I bought an ebay set and it worked ok to rebuild three road bikes...but if I did this for an ongoing hobby they wouldn't cut it for the long term.

 

[dogdog]

so what else is not covered ?

 

[ChevyEFI]

I don't mind buying bike specific stuff when I need it. I bought a spline wrench for the bearings and the spline socket for the crank nuts of my XTR? crank. But my last chain didn't require anything but basic punches, as it was already broken. Support your LBS while you're at it.

 

[rijndael]

I'd pickup a Park CT-5.

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

It's really best to go through your bike component by component and figure out exactly what specialty tool is needed. What type of bottom bracket tool is needed, what cassette/freewheel tool is needed, etc. You might end up with what you need, or you might end up with a lot of useless tools.

 

[BillK]

I cant imagine those being very good for that price. Park tools is sort of the standard for bike tools. Not cheap but will last a lifetime.
https://www.parktool.com/

 

[racinfarmer]

How attached to that particular bike are you?

You'd be far better off taking the money you plan on putting into tools and put it towards a used good brand of bike like a Trek or Specialized.

 

[pgray007]

How attached to that particular bike are you?

You'd be far better off taking the money you plan on putting into tools and put it towards a used good brand of bike like a Trek or Specialized.

This. Depending on how bad the rust is, you might be in for new cassette, chain, cables which is probably $50 at a minimum. If you need more parts things start going up. This might be worthwhile if it was a cool vintage Italian frame but for a Murray probably not.

$200 will probably get you an older Trek or similar bike on Craigslist that’s in better shape and a better bike.


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[dogdog]

Some what attached but more importantly, I like DIY within a reasonable spending on tools of cause. I just went to costco and saw their bike on sale, beefier and nicer.

Just for the record.. the the past 20 Years I have this bike , it have never been on the "road" lol... so attached. maybe at best... but I don't needed a bike per se... I just want to disassemble and fix a bike.

 

[Kevkx125]

That will get you by for a bit but more then likely prolong use of those tools and you will be disappointed. good luck and have fun!!

 

[bastage]

To buy good bike tools you will be into it 10x what any murray is worth. They were kmart & walmart **** bikes.

If you want to restore it for sentimental value then have at it & just buy what ya need as you need it. Most of the kits are going to have stuff that isnt at all relevant to you due to changes in the popular components.

 

[dogdog]

I was asking if there are any other special tool I would needed.

 

[Bigblue&Goldie]

I was asking if there are any other special tool I would needed.

This isn't an easy question to answer as components use many different standards. What may require a specialty tool on your bike might require a typical tool on another. It's like asking what specialty tools you need for your car. If your car is an air cooled VW you probably don't need a scan tool, but you will need a 17mm allen to change the trans fluid.

 

[dogdog]

hmm ok thanks will order that set then seems to be complete enough for ones or twos..

 

[PelicanPines]

Another vote for Park Tools. Buy it once...

 

[rlitman]

I'd pickup a Park CT-5.

That is the best chain tool on the market. Better than the more expensive Park version.

hmm ok thanks will order that set then seems to be complete enough for ones or twos..

Well, the freewheel and cassette tools may be handy if you really need to remove your cog (not something you likely need to do though). But the splines on such cheap tools may cause real damage.

The crank puller may be useful if you need to re-grease your bottom bracket. I however suggest not pulling aluminum crank arms unnecessarily, and also, put a witness mark on them so they are clocked the same way when re-installed.

That chain tool looks like a crappy Chinese copy of a Rivoli (which was ok at best). It may work, or it may not. However, you could always just cut your rusty chain to remove it, and use a master link to install the replacement, so you don't really need a chain tool.

The most useful bicycle tools are:
6mm T handle allen
5mm T handle allen
10mm wrench
15mm wrench (preferably long pattern)
#2 Phillips screwdriver (preferably JIS compatible)
A single PLASTIC tire lever with a big handle (like the Quick Stik).

That short list covers 95% of anything I'll need to do on a bike, with my spoke wrenches being next (a spoke wrench is NOT something I'll recommend to someone without a good deal of experience however).

 

[dogdog]

I am pretty sure the crank and cassette needs to come out it's sticky, all the greased probably dried. that is why I am looking at these sets.

As far as the basic socket wrench and allen torx, I got those covered... just wanted to make sure I have the tools before I proceed to shorten the waiting time for the right tools, I tend to lose parts when I wait too long

 

[Jagmandave]

I would pick up some flat pedal wrenches - 15mm I think?

Like this... https://www.amazon.com/Bikehand-Bicycle-Pedal-Wrench-Handle/dp/B01MCS0DSY/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=bicycle+pedal+wrenches&qid=1589757434&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExN0c2SElTQkpNS1hWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjI2ODgwMU40QTlWWTBOSlE1MiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDkxNDgwMTVVR1FXTjRCQVhWSSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Or this... https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-PW-3-Pedal-Wrench/dp/B000OZBK32/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2OUJUO2GMV0HM&dchild=1&keywords=bike+pedal+wrench&qid=1589757534&sprefix=bike+pedal%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-6

 

[Gmonkee]

My hobby is low end bikes. I don't have a pile of tools to putter on them nor need one.

Head tube bearings can be done with a 10" adjustable and WP pliers. Bottom brackets adjusted with the same. To replace add a thin 36mm wrench to look pro, a 12" adjustable once the crankarm is off.

Its nice to have the bike tool kit. It feels nice. Other than knocking off freewheels and adjustment of wheel bearings ( cone wrenches ) its all regular household stuff.

Its your fantasy, treat yourself to some fun with new tools.

 

[p00p]

It's really best to go through your bike component by component and figure out exactly what specialty tool is needed. What type of bottom bracket tool is needed, what cassette/freewheel tool is needed, etc. You might end up with what you need, or you might end up with a lot of useless tools.

x2

Spend a little more for better tools & tools that you'll use.

I've received "kits" & "sets" that left me with more frustration or unused tools in the end.

Use metric on metric, SAE on SAE. Bicycle hardware is not that forgiving when using improper tools for the job at hand.

 

[Coloshaver]

I started wrenching on bikes and have grown into cars. The set you reference has tools you will not use on your older department store bike. Freewheel tool and bottom bracket tool will depend on the group set on the bike. You'll save money by figuring that out first.

As a couple others have mentioned you'll probably need:
- A pedal wrench usually 15mm on one side and 9/16" on the other, but thin enough to fit on the flats.

-With the rust you mentioned, you'll probably need to rebuild the hubs. To do that you'll need a set of cone wrenches thin thin 13, 14, 15 and 16 mm.

- A chain tool

- 4,5,6 and maybe 7mm hex (Allen) wrenches

- 8, 10 and maybe 11, 12, 13 mm combo wrenches.

- Zinn and the art of Road )or Mountain) bike Maintenance (depending on what you have) is a great reference on how bicycle parts work and how you service them. (E.g. which side of the bottom bracket has left hand threads )

Park are the "Snap On" of bike tools and their How-To videos are great, but, depending on the tools you need, there are alternatives.

Good luck

 

[Samuel D]

However, you could always just cut your rusty chain to remove it, and use a master link to install the replacement, so you don't really need a chain tool.

The new chain will still probably need to be shortened, though. The Park Tool CT-5 is a great, inexpensive choice for that. The Topeak Super Chain Tool is similar.

Get a chain with a quick link. Pressing pins back in does not make a safe join in modern chains with counterbored plates and peened pins. The exception is Shimano’s special (oversized) joining pins, but even Shimano is moving to quick-links. They’re just easier and safer.

I am pretty sure the crank and cassette needs to come out it's sticky, all the greased probably dried.

I have no real idea what the bicycle is like, but it might not be a cassette-type hub but freewheel. Removing a freewheel involves torque that will defeat poor tools.

Hub bearings may be cup-and-cone type. Easy enough to open to clean and lubricate (except you’ll need special cones spanners), but setting the bearing preload when you’re done is trickier.

New cables and cable housings will dramatically improve braking.

 

[pfaustus]

I seriously doubt that he will need a pedal wrench for that bike. Any regular wrench will probably fit. 15mm or 9/16. That bike may even be from before everything went allen wrench, never mind torx. Chain tool, freewheel (probably) or cassette tool depending, cone wrenches, and a crank remover should cover it. The cheap ebay versions of that set will sorta work good enough for one beater. Wally world for cheap chain and cables.

 

[dogdog]

maybe some pics in the morning would help... I have no idea the terminology of any bicycle things. I would like to just fix it.

 

[pfaustus]

Thinking about it, you probably have a one piece steel crank, and don't even need the crank remover. But, that is too big an ask. Google is your friend. Or, start here:
https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/repairs.html

 

[Gmonkee]

I have fun building bikes. Its not about fast or light Campy equipped carbon fiber frames.

I take back porch junk and make it fun again.

 

[LilEngineeringBoy]

Just to chime in - when bikes get below a certain level, they start using random standards. Like the threading can be different, they might not be metric bolts, etc. If it says Shimano, Sun Tour or SRAM, they are probably consistent. Anything from a bike shop is going to be standardized. When I worked at bike shops in HS and college, we typically wouldn't take in Huffy/Murry/Sears etc for repairs.
I have mostly Park stuff I got as I needed it, and some Nashbar stuff for seldomly used tools (headset press, rear dropout aligner, etc.).

 

[Gmonkee]

I get random bikes as parts. All use the same parts as I can tell. Chinese standard nondescript stuff.
It used to be everything was oddball threads and sizes but not in the last 15 years or so.

 

[dogdog]

ok thanks all..

I ordered this tool kit instead. It says CR-MO so shouldn't be that bad. Will be here June something.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XH8TWKR/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Samuel D]

Good choice if you need a kit to get you started. Despite the silly name, IceToolz are generally good quality.

 

[dogdog]

Used it yesterday and it turned out I don't needed everything in that tool kit... only needed the chain breaker and the thin 15mm wrench... and the bicycle spook spinner.

Now missing balls lol .. I guess I'll ask in a different post.

Thanks all.

 

[sqyards]

Bike for my pops he hates 3 wheelers (50+ yr AP mech) first bike project in many years